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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
It is all about money, and the B1G can pay more than any other conference by a substantial amount. Each member of the B1G receives close to $30 million per year right now from the B1G Network and other conference pay outs. With the addition of Maryland and Rutgers, and then throw in the possibility of UNC and UVA you could see their TV revenue increase and each program can make close to $40-50 million per years just from the conference.

There is not a single conference that can compare to that kind of money, including the over hyped SEC. They have the next best deal and only receive roughly 17-20 million per member each year from the conference and TV. IMO if offered UNC and UVA bolt faster than you can imagine.

Then the SEC would likely grab NC State, Clemson, FSU, or Va Tech. They will take two of those four and move Mizzou back to the west.
01-04-2013 12:41 PM
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
I would LOL for a long time if this were to happen, would be a lynch pin for ACC to crumble. Wake and Duke would be screwed.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
the B1G & SEC have been after UNC for a long time & guess what they will accept them today or 10 years from now no matter how many members they have. so UNC is not pressed to move anywhere & won't as long as the ACC is beneficial to them.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
(01-04-2013 12:41 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  It is all about money, and the B1G can pay more than any other conference by a substantial amount. Each member of the B1G receives close to $30 million per year right now from the B1G Network and other conference pay outs. With the addition of Maryland and Rutgers, and then throw in the possibility of UNC and UVA you could see their TV revenue increase and each program can make close to $40-50 million per years just from the conference.

There is not a single conference that can compare to that kind of money, including the over hyped SEC. They have the next best deal and only receive roughly 17-20 million per member each year from the conference and TV. IMO if offered UNC and UVA bolt faster than you can imagine.

Then the SEC would likely grab NC State, Clemson, FSU, or Va Tech. They will take two of those four and move Mizzou back to the west.

It's about money to a certain degree. UNC and UVA aren't just going to jump because they could make a few million more in the BIG. Remember Maryland left because they were in financial crisis (athletically), they needed the money, I have an MBA from UNC, I can assure you that UNC and UVA have plenty of money that a few million more is not going impress them.

So like I said before you will not see UNC leave unless they know or believe that most of the other ACC schools are jumping ship and I honestly don't see that happening right now.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
Duke/UNC hoops is the ACC. That would be a big mistake to break that up.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
It will come down to money or power. The power UNC-CH has is over a weaker league. $$$ will win out, IMO.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
(01-04-2013 11:07 AM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  "Make a play" does not surprise me. But UVa has baggage (Va Tech) and UNC has power within the ACC and baggage. It would not shock me if UVa left without UNC, with the eventual goal of destabilizing the ACC for later picking up UNC.

VA Tech likely used all their political muscle just getting into the ACC...besides, if the Big Ten rocks the ACC's boat too much, the SEC would be happy to take them.
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(01-04-2013 11:11 AM)eagleriffic Wrote:  If this is true then NC State & Va Tech will go $ec.

You would then wonder if the big12 makes their move to bring in eastern teams fsu & others to completely decimate the acc.

UConn, UC, ECU, and Navy would probably be the four invited to replace those four in the ACC.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
UNC isn't going anywhere. UVa either.

They both have plenty of money and recognition. How much money would it take to get them to leave their current situation? Texas-sized money, that's what.

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(01-04-2013 11:11 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I just don't see UNC leaving. They are to the ACC what Texas is to the Big XII.

I've been saying that all along. UNC is the ACC and basketball is their god.
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(01-04-2013 01:45 PM)ECUgradstudent Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 11:11 AM)eagleriffic Wrote:  If this is true then NC State & Va Tech will go $ec.

You would then wonder if the big12 makes their move to bring in eastern teams fsu & others to completely decimate the acc.

UConn, UC, ECU, and Navy would probably be the four invited to replace those four in the ACC.

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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
If those dominos begin to fall I don't think UNC-CH will leave the ACC because they believe there is a better place to be, they will leave because the ACC is not going to be the ACC anymore. It has been mentioned that so much hinges on the Maryland payout number decision and I think that is true. If it is a reasonable amount I think the SEC will make their move. NCSU and VT gone. Once the music stops we all know what happens next so the Big 12 will grab FSU and Clemson. Now the ACC is really screwed...and UNC and UVA and not going to value staying in the New ACC with ECU, etc...so they are heading to the Big 10. What else makes sense?
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(01-04-2013 03:18 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  If those dominos begin to fall I don't think UNC-CH will leave the ACC because they believe there is a better place to be, they will leave because the ACC is not going to be the ACC anymore. It has been mentioned that so much hinges on the Maryland payout number decision and I think that is true. If it is a reasonable amount I think the SEC will make their move. NCSU and VT gone. Once the music stops we all know what happens next so the Big 12 will grab FSU and Clemson. Now the ACC is really screwed...and UNC and UVA and not going to value staying in the New ACC with ECU, etc...so they are heading to the Big 10. What else makes sense?

I really don't think the payout that Maryland will pay really affects anything. If NC State was invited to the SEC, even if they had to pay $50 million they would go in a heartbeat. They haven't left yet because as of right now the SEC hasn't offered them. Now this may change in the future so we will just have to see but don't think that if Maryland has to pay $50 million that it is going to deter a school from leaving if they really feel that the long term gain outweighs the short term hit.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
They would triple the their revenue the minute they join the B1G. I don't care how much money they make in the ACC, it is chump change in comparison.

Maryland will pay that $50 million off in what 5 years and still be better off financially.

If the offer is made by the B1G then they will bolt.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
(01-04-2013 03:18 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  If those dominos begin to fall I don't think UNC-CH will leave the ACC because they believe there is a better place to be, they will leave because the ACC is not going to be the ACC anymore. It has been mentioned that so much hinges on the Maryland payout number decision and I think that is true. If it is a reasonable amount I think the SEC will make their move. NCSU and VT gone. Once the music stops we all know what happens next so the Big 12 will grab FSU and Clemson. Now the ACC is really screwed...and UNC and UVA and not going to value staying in the New ACC with ECU, etc...so they are heading to the Big 10. What else makes sense?


WFU is screwed. If Chapel Hill doesn't drag Duke along, they are screwed. Miami and BC are probably screwed. the new additions are screwed.

I really think that WVU to the Big 12 killed the Big East. I don't see why they don't grab FSU and Clemson and kill off the ACC as well. Surely it's got to be worth 100 million to remove the ACC from big boy status, right?
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The SEC wants UNC-CH first. NC State is only an alternate target. Va Tech might be equal to UVa as a target but given a choice I think they would take UVa.
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(01-04-2013 06:34 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  The SEC wants UNC-CH first. NC State is only an alternate target. Va Tech might be equal to UVa as a target but given a choice I think they would take UVa.

IMHO, UVA and UNC would prefer the Big 10 first for academic reasons.
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RE: Big 10 to make a play for North Carolina & Virginia?
What I think some of these ACC fans either don't know, or don't accept, is that ultimately this thing is headed for 4 16 team superconferences, and it's been heading that way ever since the early 1990's, I just don't think anybody saw it coming until recently. It's a giant game of musical chairs for the Big 12 and ACC schools. One of their conferences won't be around in 10 years. You don't want to be one of the schools stuck without a conference. UNC, UVA, VA Tech, and NC State will all be fine IMO, but somebody is gonna be on the outside looking in (Duke, Wake, Miami or equivalent Big 12 schools). When the dominoes start to fall, UNC, UVA and anybody else will care a lot less about tradition and rivalries, and a lot more about these: $$$$$$$.
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What is funny is that many of you really do believe you know what you are talking about when it comes to realignment.
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UNC leaving is not likely however I could see UVA leaving.
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