(01-04-2013 05:42 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:36 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:35 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  point missed here is that wolo is the best in the business

No, I agree. He's the best.

He has no peers, in my opinion.

Well played.

(01-04-2013 05:39 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:33 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:24 AM)3601 Wrote:  He says it's not as big a deal as the media has made it out to be. It will soon be forgotten.

Part of the AD's job is about creating revenue.

Bowen has had to learn the job and at the same time figure out revenue, the new league and scheduling.

After the Big East has fallen apart the AD had had to figure out what to do next.

Bowen does talk to the coaches on a regular basis, but there was miscommunication.

In Bowen's heart he feels the UT series must keep going.

It's not the end of the world.

At the end of the day, the AD made the right decision.

Wolo's co-host then said this is the 2nd time this has happned in six months and that looks very bad publicly.

Wolo referred to Bowen as a "football fixer" and said that the ole miss thing probably happened before he know Pastner's feeling on the ole miss series.

Wolo said some folks were mad that Cal ran the athletic program and now some folks are mad because the AD is trying to run the athletic program. Can't have it both ways.

Wolo says Bowen is lucky that Pastner is a team player.

Wolo says the UT series is important EVEN MORE SO NOW that the Big East isn't going to be as good as we thought.

It IS a big deal, and it won't be soon forgotten. I know I hadn't forgotten about how Bowen forced Mississippi onto the schedule, so why would I soon forget he's done it AGAIN?

How could there be "miscommunication" TWICE? That doesn't make any sense at all.

It's not that CJP is trying to run the athletic program, but he is in charge of THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM.

I agree that the series w/UT should continue, and disagreed with CJP's position. But I TOTALLY DISAGREE with the AD back-stabbing the coach. How could he be negotiating a series with a team, and not tell the coach? This ain't SJSU, where nobody watches or cares...

Bowen has made the department look dumb AGAIN, at a time where gaining the respect of fellow AD's and institutions is essential for the future...

How is it backstabbing while CJP is getting hot under the collar in an argument with a local news hack while the AD is in his office trying to salvage a freakin wreck of a football schedule while talking to dozens of ADs ? How in the world would Josh know what's going down on a daily/hourly basis?

I've never seen such spin.

This right here. Am I the ONLY one who thinks Josh acted completely out of character? He is the guy who lavishes all the praise in the world on every team and coach and player he has ever seen. Oral Roberts is a really good team with a really good coach and great players! But all of a sudden he is hardline and hardnosed about UT with cameras in his face.... It just doesnt add up to me.

This quote would be much more believable in what I have seen from Pastner...

"As of now the series is coming to an end. UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and players but with the upcoming BigEast schedule we will not be extending the series at this time."

Doesnt that sound more like a Josh quote then...

"As long as I am headcoach and have something to do with the schedule we will not be playing"

Ok, now that Bowen has ADMITTED that he screwed up by telling CJP one thing, but did something else behind his back, what do you think now?

When do we get Pete Gillen as the voice of the TYGA"S ??? thats all I want to know lol!!!!

(01-04-2013 11:06 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:39 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:33 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:24 AM)3601 Wrote:  He says it's not as big a deal as the media has made it out to be. It will soon be forgotten.

Part of the AD's job is about creating revenue.

Bowen has had to learn the job and at the same time figure out revenue, the new league and scheduling.

After the Big East has fallen apart the AD had had to figure out what to do next.

Bowen does talk to the coaches on a regular basis, but there was miscommunication.

In Bowen's heart he feels the UT series must keep going.

It's not the end of the world.

At the end of the day, the AD made the right decision.

Wolo's co-host then said this is the 2nd time this has happned in six months and that looks very bad publicly.

Wolo referred to Bowen as a "football fixer" and said that the ole miss thing probably happened before he know Pastner's feeling on the ole miss series.

Wolo said some folks were mad that Cal ran the athletic program and now some folks are mad because the AD is trying to run the athletic program. Can't have it both ways.

Wolo says Bowen is lucky that Pastner is a team player.

Wolo says the UT series is important EVEN MORE SO NOW that the Big East isn't going to be as good as we thought.

It IS a big deal, and it won't be soon forgotten. I know I hadn't forgotten about how Bowen forced Mississippi onto the schedule, so why would I soon forget he's done it AGAIN?

How could there be "miscommunication" TWICE? That doesn't make any sense at all.

It's not that CJP is trying to run the athletic program, but he is in charge of THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM.

I agree that the series w/UT should continue, and disagreed with CJP's position. But I TOTALLY DISAGREE with the AD back-stabbing the coach. How could he be negotiating a series with a team, and not tell the coach? This ain't SJSU, where nobody watches or cares...

Bowen has made the department look dumb AGAIN, at a time where gaining the respect of fellow AD's and institutions is essential for the future...

How is it backstabbing while CJP is getting hot under the collar in an argument with a local news hack while the AD is in his office trying to salvage a freakin wreck of a football schedule while talking to dozens of ADs ? How in the world would Josh know what's going down on a daily/hourly basis?

I've never seen such spin.

This right here. Am I the ONLY one who thinks Josh acted completely out of character? He is the guy who lavishes all the praise in the world on every team and coach and player he has ever seen. Oral Roberts is a really good team with a really good coach and great players! But all of a sudden he is hardline and hardnosed about UT with cameras in his face.... It just doesnt add up to me.

This quote would be much more believable in what I have seen from Pastner...

"As of now the series is coming to an end. UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and players but with the upcoming BigEast schedule we will not be extending the series at this time."

Doesnt that sound more like a Josh quote then...

"As long as I am headcoach and have something to do with the schedule we will not be playing"

Ok, now that Bowen has ADMITTED that he screwed up by telling CJP one thing, but did something else behind his back, what do you think now?

I sent an email to TB and SR about how this all looked.

Although I figured TB was to blame, I still believe that CJP is too chummy with the local media and overstepped his bounds by making the comments he made.

He should have just brushed it off and not made a big deal out of it. I really believe CJP should talk to a therapist. He seems bipolar to me.


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(01-05-2013 12:19 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 11:06 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:39 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:33 PM)Merrick Wrote:  It IS a big deal, and it won't be soon forgotten. I know I hadn't forgotten about how Bowen forced Mississippi onto the schedule, so why would I soon forget he's done it AGAIN?

How could there be "miscommunication" TWICE? That doesn't make any sense at all.

It's not that CJP is trying to run the athletic program, but he is in charge of THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM.

I agree that the series w/UT should continue, and disagreed with CJP's position. But I TOTALLY DISAGREE with the AD back-stabbing the coach. How could he be negotiating a series with a team, and not tell the coach? This ain't SJSU, where nobody watches or cares...

Bowen has made the department look dumb AGAIN, at a time where gaining the respect of fellow AD's and institutions is essential for the future...

How is it backstabbing while CJP is getting hot under the collar in an argument with a local news hack while the AD is in his office trying to salvage a freakin wreck of a football schedule while talking to dozens of ADs ? How in the world would Josh know what's going down on a daily/hourly basis?

I've never seen such spin.

This right here. Am I the ONLY one who thinks Josh acted completely out of character? He is the guy who lavishes all the praise in the world on every team and coach and player he has ever seen. Oral Roberts is a really good team with a really good coach and great players! But all of a sudden he is hardline and hardnosed about UT with cameras in his face.... It just doesnt add up to me.

This quote would be much more believable in what I have seen from Pastner...

"As of now the series is coming to an end. UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and players but with the upcoming BigEast schedule we will not be extending the series at this time."

Doesnt that sound more like a Josh quote then...

"As long as I am headcoach and have something to do with the schedule we will not be playing"

Ok, now that Bowen has ADMITTED that he screwed up by telling CJP one thing, but did something else behind his back, what do you think now?

I sent an email to TB and SR about how this all looked.

Although I figured TB was to blame, I still believe that CJP is too chummy with the local media and overstepped his bounds by making the comments he made.

He should have just brushed it off and not made a big deal out of it. I really believe CJP should talk to a therapist. He seems bipolar to me.


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I can only imagine how you'd feel if Pastner was at fault.

My email respectfully communicated how it appeared the TB and CJP were "not on the same page" and that it didn't instill confidence to us fans nor as alumni. But I do think CJP should lay off the press lunches. It seems it just gives him more opportunities to say something that the media run with.


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(01-05-2013 12:55 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  My email respectfully communicated how it appeared the TB and CJP were "not on the same page" and that it didn't instill confidence to us fans nor as alumni. But I do think CJP should lay off the press lunches. It seems it just gives him more opportunities to say something that the media run with.


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But you will admit that, if he didn't have them, he'd be criticized for that too, right?

(01-05-2013 12:59 AM)MuchLuck Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 12:55 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  My email respectfully communicated how it appeared the TB and CJP were "not on the same page" and that it didn't instill confidence to us fans nor as alumni. But I do think CJP should lay off the press lunches. It seems it just gives him more opportunities to say something that the media run with.


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But you will admit that, if he didn't have them, he'd be criticized for that too, right?

Probably would, but I couldn't care less. The media would get over it. The only positive is that all their questions should be answered there. They should forward their questions to him in advance so he can create prepared remarks and not speak off the cuff except those cases where there may be some late breaking event. I'm assuming they don't do that.


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(01-05-2013 01:18 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 12:59 AM)MuchLuck Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 12:55 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  My email respectfully communicated how it appeared the TB and CJP were "not on the same page" and that it didn't instill confidence to us fans nor as alumni. But I do think CJP should lay off the press lunches. It seems it just gives him more opportunities to say something that the media run with.


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But you will admit that, if he didn't have them, he'd be criticized for that too, right?

Probably would, but I couldn't care less. The media would get over it. The only positive is that all their questions should be answered there. They should forward their questions to him in advance so he can create prepared remarks and not speak off the cuff except those cases where there may be some late breaking event. I'm assuming they don't do that.


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Well, fair enough, since you admit he'd lose both ways.

I would say, however, that the media does not like prearranged press conferences.......unless you're the President.

(01-05-2013 01:25 AM)MuchLuck Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 01:18 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 12:59 AM)MuchLuck Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 12:55 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  My email respectfully communicated how it appeared the TB and CJP were "not on the same page" and that it didn't instill confidence to us fans nor as alumni. But I do think CJP should lay off the press lunches. It seems it just gives him more opportunities to say something that the media run with.


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But you will admit that, if he didn't have them, he'd be criticized for that too, right?

Probably would, but I couldn't care less. The media would get over it. The only positive is that all their questions should be answered there. They should forward their questions to him in advance so he can create prepared remarks and not speak off the cuff except those cases where there may be some late breaking event. I'm assuming they don't do that.


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Well, fair enough, since you admit he'd lose both ways.

I would say, however, that the media does not like prearranged press conferences.......unless you're the President.

They may not like it, but it helps Josh. Even Gary Parrish says CJP seeks to explain himself too much. In time he'll get better, but I am suggesting it to help him manage the program better. Considering the news story a few weeks ago about his family life, it couldn't hurt.



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(01-04-2013 11:06 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 05:39 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:33 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:24 AM)3601 Wrote:  He says it's not as big a deal as the media has made it out to be. It will soon be forgotten.

Part of the AD's job is about creating revenue.

Bowen has had to learn the job and at the same time figure out revenue, the new league and scheduling.

After the Big East has fallen apart the AD had had to figure out what to do next.

Bowen does talk to the coaches on a regular basis, but there was miscommunication.

In Bowen's heart he feels the UT series must keep going.

It's not the end of the world.

At the end of the day, the AD made the right decision.

Wolo's co-host then said this is the 2nd time this has happned in six months and that looks very bad publicly.

Wolo referred to Bowen as a "football fixer" and said that the ole miss thing probably happened before he know Pastner's feeling on the ole miss series.

Wolo said some folks were mad that Cal ran the athletic program and now some folks are mad because the AD is trying to run the athletic program. Can't have it both ways.

Wolo says Bowen is lucky that Pastner is a team player.

Wolo says the UT series is important EVEN MORE SO NOW that the Big East isn't going to be as good as we thought.

It IS a big deal, and it won't be soon forgotten. I know I hadn't forgotten about how Bowen forced Mississippi onto the schedule, so why would I soon forget he's done it AGAIN?

How could there be "miscommunication" TWICE? That doesn't make any sense at all.

It's not that CJP is trying to run the athletic program, but he is in charge of THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM.

I agree that the series w/UT should continue, and disagreed with CJP's position. But I TOTALLY DISAGREE with the AD back-stabbing the coach. How could he be negotiating a series with a team, and not tell the coach? This ain't SJSU, where nobody watches or cares...

Bowen has made the department look dumb AGAIN, at a time where gaining the respect of fellow AD's and institutions is essential for the future...

How is it backstabbing while CJP is getting hot under the collar in an argument with a local news hack while the AD is in his office trying to salvage a freakin wreck of a football schedule while talking to dozens of ADs ? How in the world would Josh know what's going down on a daily/hourly basis?

I've never seen such spin.

This right here. Am I the ONLY one who thinks Josh acted completely out of character? He is the guy who lavishes all the praise in the world on every team and coach and player he has ever seen. Oral Roberts is a really good team with a really good coach and great players! But all of a sudden he is hardline and hardnosed about UT with cameras in his face.... It just doesnt add up to me.

This quote would be much more believable in what I have seen from Pastner...

"As of now the series is coming to an end. UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and players but with the upcoming BigEast schedule we will not be extending the series at this time."

Doesnt that sound more like a Josh quote then...

"As long as I am headcoach and have something to do with the schedule we will not be playing"

Ok, now that Bowen has ADMITTED that he screwed up by telling CJP one thing, but did something else behind his back, what do you think now?

Exactly the same thing? How does Bowen ADMITTING that he screwed up change what I said?
Matter of fact on channel 13 before the game they had a clip of Josh preparing from the game and he gave almost the exact same quote as I had above.. "UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and terrific players and...."

The "As long as I am head coach..." still seems out of character to normal Josh IMO.

(01-05-2013 12:55 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  My email respectfully communicated how it appeared the TB and CJP were "not on the same page" and that it didn't instill confidence to us fans nor as alumni. But I do think CJP should lay off the press lunches. It seems it just gives him more opportunities to say something that the media run with.


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Since when does anyone have to say anything for one of our elite media members to take off running. They don't have to have any facts to run with they just editorialize.

(01-04-2013 11:27 AM)ksigtigerdood Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 11:17 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  Why does anyone listen to Woloshin's take?

The guy thinks Tony Harris got paid by UTK twenty something years ago.

That was twenty years ago??

What was the going rate????

(01-04-2013 04:33 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:24 AM)3601 Wrote:  He says it's not as big a deal as the media has made it out to be. It will soon be forgotten.

Part of the AD's job is about creating revenue.

Bowen has had to learn the job and at the same time figure out revenue, the new league and scheduling.

After the Big East has fallen apart the AD had had to figure out what to do next.

Bowen does talk to the coaches on a regular basis, but there was miscommunication.

In Bowen's heart he feels the UT series must keep going.

It's not the end of the world.

At the end of the day, the AD made the right decision.

Wolo's co-host then said this is the 2nd time this has happned in six months and that looks very bad publicly.

Wolo referred to Bowen as a "football fixer" and said that the ole miss thing probably happened before he know Pastner's feeling on the ole miss series.

Wolo said some folks were mad that Cal ran the athletic program and now some folks are mad because the AD is trying to run the athletic program. Can't have it both ways.

Wolo says Bowen is lucky that Pastner is a team player.

Wolo says the UT series is important EVEN MORE SO NOW that the Big East isn't going to be as good as we thought.

It IS a big deal, and it won't be soon forgotten. I know I hadn't forgotten about how Bowen forced Mississippi onto the schedule, so why would I soon forget he's done it AGAIN?

How could there be "miscommunication" TWICE? That doesn't make any sense at all.

It's not that CJP is trying to run the athletic program, but he is in charge of THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM.

I agree that the series w/UT should continue, and disagreed with CJP's position. But I TOTALLY DISAGREE with the AD back-stabbing the coach. How could he be negotiating a series with a team, and not tell the coach? This ain't SJSU, where nobody watches or cares...

Bowen has made the department look dumb AGAIN, at a time where gaining the respect of fellow AD's and institutions is essential for the future...

What if CJP is trying to upstage his boss?

(01-05-2013 01:18 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 12:59 AM)MuchLuck Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 12:55 AM)UM_TOM Wrote:  My email respectfully communicated how it appeared the TB and CJP were "not on the same page" and that it didn't instill confidence to us fans nor as alumni. But I do think CJP should lay off the press lunches. It seems it just gives him more opportunities to say something that the media run with.


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But you will admit that, if he didn't have them, he'd be criticized for that too, right?

Probably would, but I couldn't care less. The media would get over it. The only positive is that all their questions should be answered there. They should forward their questions to him in advance so he can create prepared remarks and not speak off the cuff except those cases where there may be some late breaking event. I'm assuming they don't do that.

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They didn't with CLP.....

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