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(01-03-2013 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  as overheard in the AOB building.

link?

Another "Boom Crawford, Outta Here" post.
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(01-03-2013 08:21 PM)SNF6 Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:18 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  as overheard in the AOB building.

link?

Another "Boom Crawford, Outta Here" post.

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(01-03-2013 08:18 PM)68k Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

This is completely irrelevant. None of this **** should have ever made it to the media. It's unprofessional and makes our entire athletic department appear as though run by 7th graders.

I agree 100%...josh should have never run his mouth off at that press conference without running it by his boss first.
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(01-03-2013 08:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(01-03-2013 06:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I like it. I like a decisive person who takes it upon their shoulders. If things go bad, well there is no hiding or blaming anyone else.

He is hiding behind a written press release. Josh had to find out that Bowen had changed his mind from a phone call from Parrish. That's piss poor. Apparently he changed his mind on Josh without, you know, telling Josh.

You REALLY don't think they sat down and talked about it? The AD is the boss...it takes 5 mins..."josh, UT offered us a football series, so I decided to play the basketball series...good luck in Knoxville"

You realize they have postponed a game that they owe us from 2004 to 2017 right? But we should take them at their word and put a new contract in place so we can get...what? Another game (or games) that they postpone because they feel like it? Just something to think about...
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(01-03-2013 08:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:06 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  If I'm Josh, I'm pretty f'n pissed.

If your Josh...you make 1.7 million dollars per year...have a great wife and kids...and have put together a great recruiting class...I'd be on cloud 9 personally.

And can get another job in a month making the same.......Bowen?.....not so much.....scary
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(01-03-2013 08:17 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:06 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  If I'm Josh, I'm pretty f'n pissed.

If your Josh...you make 1.7 million dollars per year...have a great wife and kids...and have put together a great recruiting class...I'd be on cloud 9 personally.

And your boss just made you look ridiculous is public. I'd be seething.

His boss made a business decision based on the overall good of the athletic program...not just Josh or basketball.

Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

Honestly, Josh shouldn't have been running his mouth off...he's not Cal...he doesn't have the university by the short and curlys

Really, that is my take on it. Did Bowen tell Josh to go out and announce the conclusion of the UT series and that he would never play them again as long as he was head coach and had anything to do with the scheduling? I seriously doubt it.

Once again Josh should have learned after the Ole Miss incident to not go out and say something that might change.

Or maybe, juuuuust maybe in both instances, Josh had spoken with his boss, and he was told they were on the same page. So when the media approaches him, he relays what he & his boss talked about--both times insisting they were on the same page. When actually, the AD had not given up on scheduling said opponents and instead didnt fully clue Josh in. My point is, we werent there. We dont know for 100% fact what was said, or how things went down. But what I do know, is that Josh isnt that guy thats going to shoot his mouth off in front of a bunch of media and make himself look like a moron...twice!

So clearly, something is being miscommunicated or not communicated at all. And ultimately, that is Bowen's job as the guy in charge. Ive heard from numerous people that he isnt very personable and that he doesnt care to deal with the PR side of things--thats a problem.
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(01-03-2013 08:30 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:17 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  If your Josh...you make 1.7 million dollars per year...have a great wife and kids...and have put together a great recruiting class...I'd be on cloud 9 personally.

And your boss just made you look ridiculous is public. I'd be seething.

His boss made a business decision based on the overall good of the athletic program...not just Josh or basketball.

Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

Honestly, Josh shouldn't have been running his mouth off...he's not Cal...he doesn't have the university by the short and curlys

Really, that is my take on it. Did Bowen tell Josh to go out and announce the conclusion of the UT series and that he would never play them again as long as he was head coach and had anything to do with the scheduling? I seriously doubt it.

Once again Josh should have learned after the Ole Miss incident to not go out and say something that might change.

Or maybe, juuuuust maybe in both instances, Josh had spoken with his boss, and he was told they were on the same page. So when the media approaches him, he relays what he & his boss talked about--both times insisting they were on the same page. When actually, the AD had not given up on scheduling said opponents and instead didnt fully clue Josh in. My point is, we werent there. We dont know for 100% fact what was said, or how things went down. But what I do know, is that Josh isnt that guy thats going to shoot his mouth off in front of a bunch of media and make himself look like a moron...twice!

So clearly, something is being miscommunicated or not communicated at all. And ultimately, that is Bowen's job as the guy in charge. Ive heard from numerous people that he isnt very personable and that he doesnt care to deal with the PR side of things--thats a problem.

very well said
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(01-03-2013 08:25 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 07:53 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 06:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I like it. I like a decisive person who takes it upon their shoulders. If things go bad, well there is no hiding or blaming anyone else.

He is hiding behind a written press release. Josh had to find out that Bowen had changed his mind from a phone call from Parrish. That's piss poor. Apparently he changed his mind on Josh without, you know, telling Josh.

You REALLY don't think they sat down and talked about it? The AD is the boss...it takes 5 mins..."josh, UT offered us a football series, so I decided to play the basketball series...good luck in Knoxville"

You realize they have postponed a game that they owe us from 2004 to 2017 right? But we should take them at their word and put a new contract in place so we can get...what? Another game (or games) that they postpone because they feel like it? Just something to think about...

yep.
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In the words of Cal: "it is what it is"
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RE: "It's my way or the highway"
(01-03-2013 08:30 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:17 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  If your Josh...you make 1.7 million dollars per year...have a great wife and kids...and have put together a great recruiting class...I'd be on cloud 9 personally.

And your boss just made you look ridiculous is public. I'd be seething.

His boss made a business decision based on the overall good of the athletic program...not just Josh or basketball.

Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

Honestly, Josh shouldn't have been running his mouth off...he's not Cal...he doesn't have the university by the short and curlys

Really, that is my take on it. Did Bowen tell Josh to go out and announce the conclusion of the UT series and that he would never play them again as long as he was head coach and had anything to do with the scheduling? I seriously doubt it.

Once again Josh should have learned after the Ole Miss incident to not go out and say something that might change.

Or maybe, juuuuust maybe in both instances, Josh had spoken with his boss, and he was told they were on the same page. So when the media approaches him, he relays what he & his boss talked about--both times insisting they were on the same page. When actually, the AD had not given up on scheduling said opponents and instead didnt fully clue Josh in. My point is, we werent there. We dont know for 100% fact what was said, or how things went down. But what I do know, is that Josh isnt that guy thats going to shoot his mouth off in front of a bunch of media and make himself look like a moron...twice!

So clearly, something is being miscommunicated or not communicated at all. And ultimately, that is Bowen's job as the guy in charge. Ive heard from numerous people that he isnt very personable and that he doesnt care to deal with the PR side of things--thats a problem.

No telling what went on behind the scenes.
We could say Bowen and UT AD couldnt work out a deal, Bowen said no go. Pastner ran out to tell the media his relief in no more UT ever, which is what I am saying he shouldnt have done, especially in the decisive way that he did. UT AD calls Bowen back, relents on something that was a must-have for Bowen and then they are back to negotiating. Happens ALL the time in the business world.

Pastner has always been so quick to be so nice about other teams and programs. What happened to his usual "UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and unfortunately the series isnt being renewed" kind of statement? Instead of "As long as I am head coach and have something to do with scheduling we will not be playing UT." kind of statement.

Either way you can blame both sides. Pastner needs to get back to worrying about coaching his team and talking about basketball. Bowen needs to communicate much better.
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(01-03-2013 08:25 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 07:53 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 06:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I like it. I like a decisive person who takes it upon their shoulders. If things go bad, well there is no hiding or blaming anyone else.

He is hiding behind a written press release. Josh had to find out that Bowen had changed his mind from a phone call from Parrish. That's piss poor. Apparently he changed his mind on Josh without, you know, telling Josh.

You REALLY don't think they sat down and talked about it? The AD is the boss...it takes 5 mins..."josh, UT offered us a football series, so I decided to play the basketball series...good luck in Knoxville"

You realize they have postponed a game that they owe us from 2004 to 2017 right? But we should take them at their word and put a new contract in place so we can get...what? Another game (or games) that they postpone because they feel like it? Just something to think about...

Don't confuse the boy
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It's ok Tiger fans!!! It's still a new relationship between these two men and communication errors are expected!!! It will be fine!!! UM has a great psychology department and a counselor will come and mediate for them!!!

Beat UT!!! In basketball and football!!! I hate orange!!!
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(01-03-2013 08:39 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:25 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 07:53 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 06:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I like it. I like a decisive person who takes it upon their shoulders. If things go bad, well there is no hiding or blaming anyone else.

He is hiding behind a written press release. Josh had to find out that Bowen had changed his mind from a phone call from Parrish. That's piss poor. Apparently he changed his mind on Josh without, you know, telling Josh.

You REALLY don't think they sat down and talked about it? The AD is the boss...it takes 5 mins..."josh, UT offered us a football series, so I decided to play the basketball series...good luck in Knoxville"

You realize they have postponed a game that they owe us from 2004 to 2017 right? But we should take them at their word and put a new contract in place so we can get...what? Another game (or games) that they postpone because they feel like it? Just something to think about...

Don't confuse the boy

In the real world maxy, you do what your boss tells you...
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(01-03-2013 08:18 PM)68k Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

This is completely irrelevant. None of this **** should have ever made it to the media. It's unprofessional and makes our entire athletic department appear as though run by 7th graders.

Yeah. Josh should have never opened his mouth about it.
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(01-03-2013 08:23 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:18 PM)68k Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

This is completely irrelevant. None of this **** should have ever made it to the media. It's unprofessional and makes our entire athletic department appear as though run by 7th graders.

I agree 100%...josh should have never run his mouth off at that press conference without running it by his boss first.

How do you know he didn't?
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(01-03-2013 08:40 PM)TrippedOutTiger Wrote:  It's ok Tiger fans!!! It's still a new relationship between these two men and communication errors are expected!!! It will be fine!!! UM has a great psychology department and a counselor will come and mediate for them!!!

Beat UT!!! In basketball and football!!! I hate orange!!!

They can have lunch at the RoarShack (Best name for an eatery inside a psychology building, EVER 03-lmfao )
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(01-03-2013 08:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:30 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:17 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  And your boss just made you look ridiculous is public. I'd be seething.

His boss made a business decision based on the overall good of the athletic program...not just Josh or basketball.

Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

Honestly, Josh shouldn't have been running his mouth off...he's not Cal...he doesn't have the university by the short and curlys

Really, that is my take on it. Did Bowen tell Josh to go out and announce the conclusion of the UT series and that he would never play them again as long as he was head coach and had anything to do with the scheduling? I seriously doubt it.

Once again Josh should have learned after the Ole Miss incident to not go out and say something that might change.

Or maybe, juuuuust maybe in both instances, Josh had spoken with his boss, and he was told they were on the same page. So when the media approaches him, he relays what he & his boss talked about--both times insisting they were on the same page. When actually, the AD had not given up on scheduling said opponents and instead didnt fully clue Josh in. My point is, we werent there. We dont know for 100% fact what was said, or how things went down. But what I do know, is that Josh isnt that guy thats going to shoot his mouth off in front of a bunch of media and make himself look like a moron...twice!

So clearly, something is being miscommunicated or not communicated at all. And ultimately, that is Bowen's job as the guy in charge. Ive heard from numerous people that he isnt very personable and that he doesnt care to deal with the PR side of things--thats a problem.

No telling what went on behind the scenes.
We could say Bowen and UT AD couldnt work out a deal, Bowen said no go. Pastner ran out to tell the media his relief in no more UT ever, which is what I am saying he shouldnt have done, especially in the decisive way that he did. UT AD calls Bowen back, relents on something that was a must-have for Bowen and then they are back to negotiating. Happens ALL the time in the business world.

Pastner has always been so quick to be so nice about other teams and programs. What happened to his usual "UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and unfortunately the series isnt being renewed" kind of statement? Instead of "As long as I am head coach and have something to do with scheduling we will not be playing UT." kind of statement.

Either way you can blame both sides. Pastner needs to get back to worrying about coaching his team and talking about basketball. Bowen needs to communicate much better.

I absolutely agree you can blame both sides, but ultimately BOWEN is the boss, which means it all comes back to him, just like everything that plays out in practice and on the court is ultimately the responsibility of the COACH.
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(01-03-2013 08:42 PM)83msu Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:23 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:18 PM)68k Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

This is completely irrelevant. None of this **** should have ever made it to the media. It's unprofessional and makes our entire athletic department appear as though run by 7th graders.

I agree 100%...josh should have never run his mouth off at that press conference without running it by his boss first.

How do you know he didn't?

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(01-03-2013 08:45 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:30 PM)staciemontero Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:17 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 08:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  His boss made a business decision based on the overall good of the athletic program...not just Josh or basketball.

Your boss tells you to do something...you do it...that's why he's the boss.

Honestly, Josh shouldn't have been running his mouth off...he's not Cal...he doesn't have the university by the short and curlys

Really, that is my take on it. Did Bowen tell Josh to go out and announce the conclusion of the UT series and that he would never play them again as long as he was head coach and had anything to do with the scheduling? I seriously doubt it.

Once again Josh should have learned after the Ole Miss incident to not go out and say something that might change.

Or maybe, juuuuust maybe in both instances, Josh had spoken with his boss, and he was told they were on the same page. So when the media approaches him, he relays what he & his boss talked about--both times insisting they were on the same page. When actually, the AD had not given up on scheduling said opponents and instead didnt fully clue Josh in. My point is, we werent there. We dont know for 100% fact what was said, or how things went down. But what I do know, is that Josh isnt that guy thats going to shoot his mouth off in front of a bunch of media and make himself look like a moron...twice!

So clearly, something is being miscommunicated or not communicated at all. And ultimately, that is Bowen's job as the guy in charge. Ive heard from numerous people that he isnt very personable and that he doesnt care to deal with the PR side of things--thats a problem.

No telling what went on behind the scenes.
We could say Bowen and UT AD couldnt work out a deal, Bowen said no go. Pastner ran out to tell the media his relief in no more UT ever, which is what I am saying he shouldnt have done, especially in the decisive way that he did. UT AD calls Bowen back, relents on something that was a must-have for Bowen and then they are back to negotiating. Happens ALL the time in the business world.

Pastner has always been so quick to be so nice about other teams and programs. What happened to his usual "UT is a terrific program with a terrific coach and unfortunately the series isnt being renewed" kind of statement? Instead of "As long as I am head coach and have something to do with scheduling we will not be playing UT." kind of statement.

Either way you can blame both sides. Pastner needs to get back to worrying about coaching his team and talking about basketball. Bowen needs to communicate much better.

I absolutely agree you can blame both sides, but ultimately BOWEN is the boss, which means it all comes back to him, just like everything that plays out in practice and on the court is ultimately the responsibility of the COACH.

Maybe we can somehow find a way to blame Bob Winn in this fiasco as well.
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So none of you remember Bowen saying back close to his initial hiring that he wanted to continue playing UT, OM, and even Arky...

Josh ain't got the stroke.

He's been taught a lesson about speaking out of turn once (Ole Miss), now twice.

It ain't gonna happen many more time.

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