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Take this for what its worth. Found it on a Maryland board,
A guy named RedBankTerp posted it on the 12th. The body of the email was obviously written in the latter part of the season prior to the bowls:

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Posted: 1/12/06 4:35:45 pm

I got this in an email that was forwarded to thousands probably. Kinda interesting and prob BS but.....

Check out the scenario for the new Big East at the bottom though. I would not mind being done with all of the redneck schools personally.

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On a slow day yesterday due to the hurricane, I had a chance to
speak
with an influential FSU booster about the "new" ACC. He mentioned some
very interesting things.

1. To no one's surprise, all is not roses in ACC-land. The "raid" was
completely botched. The plan was to have the BE teams leave en masse at
the deadline, thereby costing the BE their status as a viable
conference
and creating a vacuum for the ACC to fill. However, the Skip Prosser
interview with Pitt allowed word to leak out and the BE exposed the
plan
much earlier than the ACC had hoped.

2. The lawsuit made the ACC look terrible and four schools were
particularly upset with the way that the conference was portrayed
(Duke,
UNC, NC State and Wake Forest).

3. Not only is the money not there that the schools were told to expect
(which was predicated on the ACC completely replacing the BE -- see
point one), several long-time ACC schools are upset that the BE teams
have come in and dominated the conference (Maryland, UNC, NC State,
Clemson, for example). This has led to some dissension.

4. Two schools that he claims are not happy with the new arrangement
have intimated that they might withdraw from the conference in a couple
of years, which would deprive the ACC of its championship game (and the
only reason that anything close to the promised money is even
available). He told me that one of those schools is Maryland, which is
not happy with being an also-ran. He wasn't sure about the other one,
but he thought that it might be UVA, which is now the second best team
in the conference from Virginia.

5. The next date of importance for all of us relates to the BCS. He
doesn't expect that the NCAA will ever implement a football playoff, so
the BCS will continue in some form or another. If the BE is able to
weather the storm (interesting that many of the most negative articles
about the BE have been written by writers who favor the ACC or have
been
published in newspapers where the ACC has representation) and survive,
there will be even more hard feelings within the ACC. He firmly
believes
(and is worried) that if the BE continues as a participant in the BCS
system, Maryland will petition to become a member of the BE because of
its dissatisfaction and its proximity to the BE schools. This would
give
the BE nine full members. Should that happen, he also anticipates that
between one and three other ACC schools will try to leave as well. His
prediction for the most likely: UVA. He also expects that BC will send
out feelers because, without Maryland, the closest school to BC would
be
Virginia Tech. If Maryland and UVA were to join the BE, don't be
surprised if UPS expresses an interest, partly because of the inroads
into PSU's recruiting territory that would be created by such an
Eastern
conference.

6. There is also some concern in the ACC that Kentucky, which has not
been happy in the SEC recently, will also petition the BE for
membership, should the conference survive. If that were to occur, and
should the Texas schools not move to the SEC as the SEC would like, VT
is first on the list for expansion -- new markets and big-time football
reputation.

He mentioned that clues as to whether he is right will be found in the
list of schools that the BE talks with about membership. If the
discussions about Navy, ND, etc. fade away, it should tell you that
something bigger is in the offing.

If this person is right, there are many reasons for the BE to win big
and win now. Even if he's wrong, the risk of the BE losing its spot as
an automatic qualifier in the BCS series has far-reaching consequences.
That possibility is why, as much as I dislike WVU, Pitt needs to win
its
next two games and WVU needs to win out and enter the BCS bowl as a
10-1
team. It will be the best result for the conference in the long run.

BE East -- BC (PSU?), Syracuse, UCONN, Rutgers, Maryland, USF

BE West -- WVU, Pitt, Louisville, Cincinnati, Kentucky, UVA

It's not all that unlikely
01-13-2006 04:09 PM
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Saw this on a different forum. Still don't give one ounce of credit to this. Your thoughts, L-YES.
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I think that this would be awesome but ....I'm not holding my breath.....
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total BS.

I'm not doubting that not all is 100% happy in ACC-land, but the notion that MD or Kentucky would leave the ACC and SEC under ANY circumstances is simply preposterous. Virginia would be even more unlikely, if that is possible.
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Lloyd64 Wrote:Saw this on a different forum. Still don't give one ounce of credit to this. Your thoughts, L-YES.

I don't think it holds any water either.

What I find interesting are the threads of discontent within the ACC and that the initial intent was indeed to completely destroy the Big East.

The Big East has done well for itself by any standard to this point considering the blow it was delt and managed to fend off.

I think the football schools have learned their lesson and will consolidate their gains upon a split.
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L-yes Wrote:
Lloyd64 Wrote:Saw this on a different forum. Still don't give one ounce of credit to this. Your thoughts, L-YES.

I don't think it holds any water either.

What I find interesting are the threads of discontent within the ACC and that the initial intent was indeed to completely destroy the Big East.

The Big East has done well for itself by any standard to this point considering the blow it was delt and managed to fend off.

I think the football schools have learned their lesson and will consolidate their gains upon a split.


yea.....hard to buy this whole conspiracy theory stuff.....just too left field....
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Actually, I completely agree on points 1-3. I believe it was documented at some point that the so-called "NC basketball mafia" was hesitant to expand. I remember one reason was that they did not want to dilute up the basketball tournament ticket allotment and piss off boosters that might end up with the short end of the stick.

And, it is rather funny how the ex-BE teams have been the ones winning lmfao (regardless of how pissed you long-timers are that they left).

As for any team leaving the ACC, I don't believe that for a minute. Isn't there an outrageous exit fee involved?
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Lemmiwinks Wrote:Actually, I completely agree on points 1-3. I believe it was documented at some point that the so-called "NC basketball mafia" was hesitant to expand. I remember one reason was that they did not want to dilute up the basketball tournament ticket allotment and piss off boosters that might end up with the short end of the stick.

And, it is rather funny how the ex-BE teams have been the ones winning lmfao (regardless of how pissed you long-timers are that they left).

As for any team leaving the ACC, I don't believe that for a minute. Isn't there an outrageous exit fee involved?

seven million beans :shhh:
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North Carolina, Duke, & Virginia were the schools that were against ACC expansion. As everyone knows Swofford orginally wanted Miami, BC, & Syracuse. In order to get Virginia's vote, Swofford had to take VaTech instead of Syracuse. To my knowledge, the rest of the ACC was pro expansion.

None of the ACC schools will ever leave to join the Big East unless there is a split & ND & Penn State join the league.

I took out the ECU reference, does that make you feel better BlazinHeat?
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Brick City Pirate Wrote:North Carolina, Duke, & Virginia were the schools that were against ACC expansion. As everyone knows Swofford orginally wanted Miami, BC, & Syracuse. In order to get Virginia's vote, Swofford had to take VaTech instead of Syracuse. To my knowledge, the rest of the ACC was pro expansion. The VaTech/Syracuse swap killed ECU's chances of Big East membership since apparently VaTech was poised to back ECU.

None of the ACC schools will ever leave to join the Big East unless there is a split & ND & Penn State join the league.

You just will not let the BE board have a thread to themselves will ya? This thread had absolutely nothing to do with ECU but yet you manage to slip in a sentence about your school.

Jesus Christ man leave these folks alone.
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I was waiting for the ECU contingent myself. Lots of it on the other BE board as well. Its all wait and see for those of us on these types of boards. But its nice that people want in on what we are doing in the BE at least.
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whats the addy of the other big east board?
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http://Bigeastboards.com ECU fans have been very active on that board, but has quieted down for the past several weeks. Expansion talk is getting old.
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This is just another set of fans talking.Here we have people who dislike hybrids and bb only schools.There you some fans who dislike the form of the new acc and the members.
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I take it you visit that board Tiger? Are you a member there also? Lots and lots of expansion talk over there. VERY emotional fans from ECU making some good points and stating some pretty valid things. But again, just talk until we see what shakes out.
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I can't see UVA leaving the ACC under any circumstances

-- This rumor made it too another board....basically the idea I heard was Maryland and Clemson would leave the ACC and the BE football schools would also had East Carolina to be the travel partner for Clemson....

-- Frankly...I don't put any stock in it at all....although maryland, Kentucky and Clemson football would be more healthy with the BE football schools...we can't offer the same kind of $$$ every yr that the other leagues can


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Just my opinion-

But I call BS on this.
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The Knight Time Wrote:Just my opinion-

But I call BS on this.

I hate fans that post on other conference's message boards..... ;-)
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I also heard that the moon landings took place in the sandy deserts of an undisclosed place in Nevada.
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This stuff is highly unlikely. MD is a basketball school first and football second. They wont want to give up their rivalries with Duke, UVA and UNC.
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