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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(12-31-2012 10:16 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  you was?

From 99-04

99 13-0 Final Rank 10, Bowl win over #21 BYU
00 8-5 Bowl win over Cincy
01 11-2 Bowl win over ECU (Yes the game was played)
02 11-2 Bowl win over Louisville, Final Rank 21
03 8-4 No Bowl but a win over Big XII Champions #6 K-State
04 6-6 Bowl Loss to Cincy

That would make us 57-19 duing that time.
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
we are doing ourselves a serious disservice if we dismiss Tulane.

mark my words
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(12-31-2012 08:59 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:47 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Tulane fans have been taking it on the chin for a month. And been quite humble(d) by it. Tulane was outstanding before Katrina on the field.

I wouldn't say outstanding... they've been good in certain years, but outstanding?

2002 8 5
2000 6 5
1998 12 0
1997 7 4

4 winning years, that's not "outstanding" (at least in FB), although I'd love to see USM have a 12-0 record at any given time. Basketball, I'll give you the late 90's with no doubt, but after that? Ehhh.... That being said, the BE is just "hurt" that they're dream conference started getting whittled away around them, and now it's just come crashing down with a BOOM!, and they're trying to make any excuse they can, instead of admitting they had a shaky foundation in recent years.

You missed a crucial point. Those 4 winning seasons listed are the only winning seasons Tulane has had in the last 31 years. That is 4-27 in terms of winning seasons over the last 31 years. That Katrina really had an effect. 31 years. Wow.
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(12-31-2012 10:16 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 09:07 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:47 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Tulane fans have been taking it on the chin for a month. And been quite humble(d) by it. Tulane was outstanding before Katrina on the field. Tulane was and still is outstanding academically. To say otherwise is asinine.

After your undefeated season in 98, from 99-2004

99 3-8
00 6-5
01 3-9
02 8-5
03 5-7
04 5-6

You was 30-40 from that time. If anything Tulane was schizophrenic. Far from outstanding.

you was?

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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(12-31-2012 10:45 PM)EagleX Wrote:  we are doing ourselves a serious disservice if we dismiss Tulane.

mark my words

You have kissed enough Tulane ass in this thread to last a lifetime.
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(12-31-2012 10:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 10:45 PM)EagleX Wrote:  we are doing ourselves a serious disservice if we dismiss Tulane.

mark my words

You have kissed enough Tulane ass in this thread to last a lifetime.

I have friends from tulane.

I would kiss their ass long before your retarded ass.

fans like you give fans like me a bad name.
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I can't believe what just happened. I just attacked a fellow southern miss fan.

I apologize to anyone that may have quoted it. I apologize to usmbacker.

this crap makes us all crazy.
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I deleted the post to usmbacker
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(12-31-2012 08:51 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  USM isn't going anywhere, guys. I doubt we can even afford to leave with the CUSA exit fee.

Isn't our exit fee $500,000. The idea that the nBE now needs schools that can win games and advance, not market is interesting. However, there is a real chance the nBE will have no money on hand. And we stand to lose a lot $$$ by bailing on CUSA. There is no need to jump because the big 5 still have additions to make. We are in a good place, more changes are out there.
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(01-01-2013 09:57 AM)BkGold Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:51 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  USM isn't going anywhere, guys. I doubt we can even afford to leave with the CUSA exit fee.

However, there is a real chance the nBE will have no money on hand.

Nothing could be further from the truth than that statement. Next year the BE still has the autobid BCS game plus all the departure fees that will be substantial even if they get negotiated down. The conference will have plenty of cash to begin with. The issue will be long term TV rights fees, but they will be better than many think even in a diminished situation.
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(12-31-2012 08:39 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  
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(12-31-2012 07:13 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  0-12

USM is still 500x better than Tulane

At football. That's about it.


Not $, academics, location, many Olympic sports, tv.

Are we just stating things to state them?

OK, still Tulane did nothing on the field to earn their invite. The only reason you were added was because you we're in a large market and you have good academics.

...And are committed to athletics....and will benefit from the revenue generated in the Big East.
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(12-31-2012 08:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I think USM is the next call. Hope so despite fans here bashing TU

Tulsa !

We need to add them first...
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(12-31-2012 07:13 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  0-12

North Carolina Tar Heels.

You were saying?
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(01-01-2013 12:09 PM)Wavebacker Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:39 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:36 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:34 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 07:13 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  0-12

USM is still 500x better than Tulane

At football. That's about it.


Not $, academics, location, many Olympic sports, tv.

Are we just stating things to state them?

OK, still Tulane did nothing on the field to earn their invite. The only reason you were added was because you we're in a large market and you have good academics.

...And are committed to athletics....and will benefit from the revenue generated in the Big East.

What? Have you not been following any of this?
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(01-01-2013 01:25 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(01-01-2013 12:09 PM)Wavebacker Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:39 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:36 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:34 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  USM is still 500x better than Tulane

At football. That's about it.


Not $, academics, location, many Olympic sports, tv.

Are we just stating things to state them?

OK, still Tulane did nothing on the field to earn their invite. The only reason you were added was because you we're in a large market and you have good academics.

...And are committed to athletics....and will benefit from the revenue generated in the Big East.

What? Have you not been following any of this?

Yea I'm not sure how much revenue is going to be there if any at all, well maybe now that Boise and SDSU are headed back, that might defer some travel costs and you guys might get 67 dollars and an autographed Mike Aresco picture.
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(12-31-2012 09:35 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
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(12-31-2012 09:16 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  We don't only play football. Please notice our CUSA wins sports wide. Otherwise, keep hatin

We are talking realignment. And realignment is about 2 things. 1)Market 2)Football. I don't hate Tulane. A match up in any sport that has Marshall and Tulane just doesn't get me excited. The only exciting match up would have been in 1998. That year you was 13-0. Marshall was 12-1, our only loss was to Bowling Green.

05-nono the big east has proven this to be false

If the market theory is wrong then C-USA is just as screwed since they followed it to the letter as well. If C-USA was adding the best available programs they would have added ULL, Ark State, WKU then FCS move ups and a team that doesn't even have a football program yet. So C-USA better hope that theory about markets has value.
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Quote:If the market theory is wrong then C-USA is just as screwed since they followed it to the letter as well.

Uhm.. are you sure? They added growth schools w/markets AND recruiting grounds. Again, I wasn't a fan of the F_U addons, but Marshall, UAB, and USM all go after the Florida recruitment area.

UTSA = Growth School +Market
ODU = Growth school + Market (not sure on recruitment grounds)
UNT = Growth School + FL Recruitment Grounds (Market I'm not so sure of)
FAU/FIU = Recruitment Grounds + Markets
MTSU = Performance Based + TN Recruitment area
La Tech = Performance based + LA recruitment area

(not saying you're right or wrong, Bj... it just looks like you're seeing it from the myopic "markets only" stance)
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(01-01-2013 03:05 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 09:35 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 09:34 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 09:16 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  We don't only play football. Please notice our CUSA wins sports wide. Otherwise, keep hatin

We are talking realignment. And realignment is about 2 things. 1)Market 2)Football. I don't hate Tulane. A match up in any sport that has Marshall and Tulane just doesn't get me excited. The only exciting match up would have been in 1998. That year you was 13-0. Marshall was 12-1, our only loss was to Bowling Green.

05-nono the big east has proven this to be false

If the market theory is wrong then C-USA is just as screwed since they followed it to the letter as well. If C-USA was adding the best available programs they would have added ULL, Ark State, WKU then FCS move ups and a team that doesn't even have a football program yet. So C-USA better hope that theory about markets has value.

we already have a contract that was based on market size theory (1.2 million/school), what is changing from defectors moving to the big east?
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RE: What Tulane did to the NBE when it was added.....
(01-01-2013 02:28 PM)Billy Free Wrote:  
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(01-01-2013 12:09 PM)Wavebacker Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:39 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  
(12-31-2012 08:36 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  At football. That's about it.


Not $, academics, location, many Olympic sports, tv.

Are we just stating things to state them?

OK, still Tulane did nothing on the field to earn their invite. The only reason you were added was because you we're in a large market and you have good academics.

...And are committed to athletics....and will benefit from the revenue generated in the Big East.

What? Have you not been following any of this?

Yea I'm not sure how much revenue is going to be there if any at all, well maybe now that Boise and SDSU are headed back, that might defer some travel costs and you guys might get 67 dollars and an autographed Mike Aresco picture.

We were added to the league when Louisville was a part of it as well as Boise, SDSU and Navy and the Catholic schools. There was talk of a $100 mil TV deal. Even $60 mil was discussed. We were hearing numbers exponentially greater than what we make in CUSA.
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(01-01-2013 03:31 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  UNT = Growth School + FL Recruitment Grounds (Market I'm not so sure of)

FL? Dallas-Fort Worth-Denton Texas is part of the metroplex or whatever they call it. I think they got like 40k students too.
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