West Virginia’s 38-14 loss to Syracuse in the Pinstripe Bowl on Saturday was humiliating, but the headline in the Weirton Daily Times made it about 20 times worse.

“WVU loses bowel”

The unfortunate typo appeared at the top of the main section of the paper as a tease to what we assume was an interesting - and very personal - story about something that happened during the game - or after it - in the bathroom of the locker room.

While many would claim West Virginia pooped itself in a game many thought it would win, not sure it's appropriate to use that as a game story teaser.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-s...ncaaf.html

Moving to the B12 may have been a great financial move for the moment. But all of their natural rivalries are gone. Their fan base has to travel a gazillion miles for away games. The B12 has it's top teams that deliver beat downs every year. The Big East was good from top to bottom but with much more parity.

It's almost like a death sentence for WVU that I think they will soon regret.

(12-30-2012 11:12 PM)BearChatter v2.0 Wrote:  Moving to the B12 may have been a great financial move for the moment. But all of their natural rivalries are gone. Their fan base has to travel a gazillion miles for away games. The B12 has it's top teams that deliver beat downs every year. The Big East was good from top to bottom but with much more parity.

It's almost like a death sentence for WVU that I think they will soon regret.

Well, you can't really blame them. They tried the ACC and SEC and neither wanted them. UofL looked like they were going to get into the
B12 and lock WVU in the BE for awhile. The eers are not constructed to go against B12 schools. Plus, the travel I think catches up to them.

It will be interesting what they do in the future, but I knew they were overrated this year. Hell, they could not dominate the BE...so you knew they were over rated in the B12. They need a few teams closer to them. The B12 will expand, but it will take their TV deal to end or
teams come available that are valuable to them (i.e. ACC break up).

Why would any ACC team want to go to the B12? They'd be further from their conference foes than WVU is.

(12-31-2012 02:31 AM)payday Wrote:  Why would any ACC team want to go to the B12? They'd be further from their conference foes than WVU is.

Why did Colorado go to Pac-12? Show me the money.

The football schools should have split from the basketball schools, added 4 more and negotiated their own TV contract. I think long term, this would have worked out well for everybody. Of course, hindsight is 20/20.

WVA fans are not happy....they went from being King of the Hill types to middle/lower of the pack. Of course the programs will get a ton more money...and that's what this is all about geography, traditional rivals, and travel be damned.

The problem is what happens if WVU stood pat in the Big East? I'm guessing UL would have gotten the bid to the Big XII or perhaps a school out west would get it. Would WVU have been next in line for the ACC during this past round of expansion? Who knows.

At the end of the day, they had an opportunity to get out of the sinking ship known as the Big East. That means more money and gave them a lot more security given the alternative.

My guess is no one in the know @ WVU regrets the move. The difference in money is staggering and on field performance will improve as they adjust to B12 competition and recruit in some new areas. Fans may miss driving to Pitt or Cincy but they also have to understand it's a money game and right now it's survival of the fittest. It's just like another UC fan said to me in Charlotte--he's hoping we just go to the MAC because of short drives and natural rivalries! We politely indicated that UC just can't and won't go back in time 60 years to being a MAC program.

(12-31-2012 02:31 AM)payday Wrote:  Why would any ACC team want to go to the B12? They'd be further from their conference foes than WVU is.

Because it is not the Big East. Oh, and 20 million other reasons per year.

Don't be supprised if UC ends up in the BIg 12. Not anyones first choice, but I do not see the ACC expanding further unless they have more defections. There seems to be a hope that ND will join up full time at some point in the future. If that happens then they will add 1 more for 16. Otherwise, they are staying put. We all know ND is not joining full time. All we can hope for is for another conference to expand further and open sports for us.

Let's cheer for Maryland to settle their lawsuit for pennies on the $. Then watch what happens...

(12-31-2012 10:10 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The problem is what happens if WVU stood pat in the Big East? I'm guessing UL would have gotten the bid to the Big XII or perhaps a school out west would get it. Would WVU have been next in line for the ACC during this past round of expansion? Who knows.

At the end of the day, they had an opportunity to get out of the sinking ship known as the Big East. That means more money and gave them a lot more security given the alternative.

Damn straight, winning or losing, makes no difference. The checks aren't based on W-L records.

(12-31-2012 10:17 AM)indycat Wrote:  My guess is no one in the know @ WVU regrets the move. The difference in money is staggering and on field performance will improve as they adjust to B12 competition and recruit in some new areas. Fans may miss driving to Pitt or Cincy but they also have to understand it's a money game and right now it's survival of the fittest. It's just like another UC fan said to me in Charlotte--he's hoping we just go to the MAC because of short drives and natural rivalries! We politely indicated that UC just can't and won't go back in time 60 years to being a MAC program.

Says who? Half of the teams are always going to be in the bottom half of the conference, and the afterthought that's 900+ miles away from anyone else in the conference might as well be one of them.

(12-31-2012 02:37 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 10:10 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The problem is what happens if WVU stood pat in the Big East? I'm guessing UL would have gotten the bid to the Big XII or perhaps a school out west would get it. Would WVU have been next in line for the ACC during this past round of expansion? Who knows.

At the end of the day, they had an opportunity to get out of the sinking ship known as the Big East. That means more money and gave them a lot more security given the alternative.

Damn straight, winning or losing, makes no difference. The checks aren't based on W-L records.

That's true in the short term, but perhaps not in the long term. It is difficult to measure the damage to their brand if they are chronically unable to compete in their new conference, and the damage resulting from the abandonment of traditional rivalries. There will be a backlash against the superconference concept one of these days....

I definately expect to see WVU suffering next season. With all the good football players leaving and Huggins running the basketball program into the creek, it's unlikely WVU will see the light of day meaning a bowl or NCAA basketball bid. Then WVU fans will start to turn away from the program. So what good will all the league money do if your fans aren't happy?

(12-31-2012 03:45 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:37 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 10:10 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The problem is what happens if WVU stood pat in the Big East? I'm guessing UL would have gotten the bid to the Big XII or perhaps a school out west would get it. Would WVU have been next in line for the ACC during this past round of expansion? Who knows.

At the end of the day, they had an opportunity to get out of the sinking ship known as the Big East. That means more money and gave them a lot more security given the alternative.

Damn straight, winning or losing, makes no difference. The checks aren't based on W-L records.

That's true in the short term, but perhaps not in the long term. It is difficult to measure the damage to their brand if they are chronically unable to compete in their new conference, and the damage resulting from the abandonment of traditional rivalries. There will be a backlash against the superconference concept one of these days....

If anything is for sure from all this crap it's that no one knows what the heck's going to happen long term. I know I'd love to have their spot.

(12-31-2012 10:17 AM)indycat Wrote:  My guess is no one in the know @ WVU regrets the move. The difference in money is staggering and on field performance will improve as they adjust to B12 competition and recruit in some new areas. Fans may miss driving to Pitt or Cincy but they also have to understand it's a money game and right now it's survival of the fittest. It's just like another UC fan said to me in Charlotte--he's hoping we just go to the MAC because of short drives and natural rivalries! We politely indicated that UC just can't and won't go back in time 60 years to being a MAC program.

Bearcat Chris?

(12-31-2012 03:49 PM)Vewb1 Wrote:  I definately expect to see WVU suffering next season. With all the good football players leaving and Huggins running the basketball program into the creek, it's unlikely WVU will see the light of day meaning a bowl or NCAA basketball bid. Then WVU fans will start to turn away from the program. So what good will all the league money do if your fans aren't happy?

That would be truly remarkable. WVU's fanbase does not behave like Cincinnati's. Have you been to West Virginia? They are the state school and their fans are passionate.

(12-31-2012 10:28 PM)franzeal Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:49 PM)Vewb1 Wrote:  I definately expect to see WVU suffering next season. With all the good football players leaving and Huggins running the basketball program into the creek, it's unlikely WVU will see the light of day meaning a bowl or NCAA basketball bid. Then WVU fans will start to turn away from the program. So what good will all the league money do if your fans aren't happy?

That would be truly remarkable. WVU's fanbase does not behave like Cincinnati's. Have you been to West Virginia? They are the state school and there is nothing else to do in the whole state.

FIFY

(12-31-2012 10:28 PM)franzeal Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:49 PM)Vewb1 Wrote:  I definately expect to see WVU suffering next season. With all the good football players leaving and Huggins running the basketball program into the creek, it's unlikely WVU will see the light of day meaning a bowl or NCAA basketball bid. Then WVU fans will start to turn away from the program. So what good will all the league money do if your fans aren't happy?

That would be truly remarkable. WVU's fanbase does not behave like Cincinnati's. Have you been to West Virginia? They are the state school and their fans are passionate.

passionate must be the new pc word for crazy or insane.