(12-20-2012 11:49 PM)MasMack Wrote:  What's even worse about it is the posters that are being so bad are the fans of the new additions, Houston, Memphis, UcF, ECU.

It's weird. I'm sure they'll say they are just trying to convince people of the truth. But they just come across as almost scared of what might really happen, so they say things over in over to make themselves feel better. In the end, they are just trying convince themselves that something great will happen, when really it's a 50/50 chance that this could end up really bad for them.

Ehhh--we were a non-AQ when this all started, whats the worst that can really happen? We end up in the Mountain West. We end up in the Sunbelt? Havnt you guys been saying that "everyones the same now". About the worst that can happen (and it would actually be kind of funny) is that we all pay a bunch of exit fees and the 2014 Big East has the exact same line up as 2012 CUSA.

(12-20-2012 11:49 PM)MasMack Wrote:  What's even worse about it is the posters that are being so bad are the fans of the new additions, Houston, Memphis, UcF, ECU.

It's weird. I'm sure they'll say they are just trying to convince people of the truth. But they just come across as almost scared of what might really happen, so they say things over in over to make themselves feel better. In the end, they are just trying convince themselves that something great will happen, when really it's a 50/50 chance that this could end up really bad for them.

They just don't want to accept reality. Reality is.....

...That conference is not considered one of the "Power 5"
...They are classified "Group of Five" just like CUSA
...They will pay heavy exit fees
...Its just a matter of time before UCONN, Cincy and or Boise bail.
...Its no longer the Big East...The Big East left with WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame and the basketball schools
...The new conference will likely not be able to use the "Big East" name.



At the end of the day, we will play for the same access that they will play for. We will do it on more of a regional basis with good markets while they will do it with good markets that are spread out. They may get a few more peanuts in TV revenue but that will come at the expense of cross country travel for all sports. I cant imagine how they could have any real academic expectations from student athletes with travel like that.

(12-20-2012 04:10 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 04:06 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I gotta say this..

I find it funny that ECU tried like hell to get in the BE for years.. And as soon as they do, it goes kapoot.

If it weren't for bad luck ECU and USM would have no luck at all sometimes.

The administration has tried for years. I've always wanted the ACC as that WAS one of the most stable conferences. Now I have think that B1G and Pac-12 are the 2 most stable conferences around

The SEC takes umbrage with your stable remark...

(12-20-2012 10:00 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Sorry, I am not interested in the Big east. It is just another have not conference now. If we joined, our travel coast would go sky high with not much more money to off set it. Give us a call when the Big East disolves and we might give you some time to explain why we should let you back in.

If the BE dissolves, the leftover teams will simply sit back and cherry pick a few CUSA schools to reform CUSA under a different name...or go to the MWC.

(12-20-2012 07:58 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Brilliant idea huh? Who needs the cache of Boise's BCS wins when you have the juggernaut that is Marshall.

You'd have a point if the BE didn't invite some of teams it invited.

(12-20-2012 10:11 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  nb pirate is a turrible poster.

I'm willing to bet he is one of BigEastHomer's numerous aliases. His mission is to convince posters that all is well within the BE because we all know that powerful decision makers post on BBS, no shame whatsoever.

(12-21-2012 02:17 AM)99Tiger Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 10:00 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Sorry, I am not interested in the Big east. It is just another have not conference now. If we joined, our travel coast would go sky high with not much more money to off set it. Give us a call when the Big East disolves and we might give you some time to explain why we should let you back in.

If the BE dissolves, the leftover teams will simply sit back and cherry pick a few CUSA schools to reform CUSA under a different name...or go to the MWC.

you already picked tulane, who else would you like?

big east: redrover, redrover, please send wyoming over....

MWC: If it worked for cusa, I hope he makes it through

I love our history against the Green Wave, but I wouldn't have picked them. Right now, they don't help in FB or BB...it seemed strange to me.

Someone noted that Cincy and UConn will likely leave soon...their problem is finding someone who will take them. Cincinnati was reportedly very unpopular among ACC members (having less support than Navy), and UConn still has a BC problem. If anyone is leaving soon, I'd be most worried about Boise and SDSU.

Don't really care what they think and don't understand why its being brought over here. If I want to read what they think I'll go over there...and I've never been over there. Should I go to the WAC board and tell Idaho and NMSU "CUSA thinks you're scum and would rather have Western Kentucky?"

(12-21-2012 12:10 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 11:49 PM)MasMack Wrote:  What's even worse about it is the posters that are being so bad are the fans of the new additions, Houston, Memphis, UcF, ECU.

It's weird. I'm sure they'll say they are just trying to convince people of the truth. But they just come across as almost scared of what might really happen, so they say things over in over to make themselves feel better. In the end, they are just trying convince themselves that something great will happen, when really it's a 50/50 chance that this could end up really bad for them.

Ehhh--we were a non-AQ when this all started, whats the worst that can really happen? We end up in the Mountain West. We end up in the Sunbelt? Havnt you guys been saying that "everyones the same now". About the worst that can happen (and it would actually be kind of funny) is that we all pay a bunch of exit fees and the 2014 Big East has the exact same line up as 2012 CUSA.

No buddy. What your scared of is not getting what you signed up for, therefore you stretch the truth to make the situation seem better then it really is. And your one of the worst. I will say you have gotten better lately though.

Fresno St. and UNLV fans voted NO to the BE. Its hilarious. The league commish and member schools have egg on their faces. Everyone knows they whored themsleves out - especially Holland at ECU - very shocked at that.

Hey, they have that juggernuat Houston - that should make ESPN slobber with anticipation.

We'll all be one happy family in a year or so. Enjoy it boys and girls.

(12-21-2012 02:17 AM)99Tiger Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 10:00 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Sorry, I am not interested in the Big east. It is just another have not conference now. If we joined, our travel coast would go sky high with not much more money to off set it. Give us a call when the Big East disolves and we might give you some time to explain why we should let you back in.

If the BE dissolves, the leftover teams will simply sit back and cherry pick a few CUSA schools to reform CUSA under a different name...or go to the MWC.

Would those teams leave if the money isn't all that better plus added travel costs plus already having the same bowl access?

(12-21-2012 02:36 AM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 10:11 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  nb pirate is a turrible poster.

I'm willing to bet he is one of BigEastHomer's numerous aliases. His mission is to convince posters that all is well within the BE because we all know that powerful decision makers post on BBS, no shame whatsoever.

I think the guy is a prick, but at the same time he did manage to get a few things right that at least gave him the appearance of knowing things. Of course once Rutgers and Maryland join the B1G I knew ECU was getting in the Big East as well, but I didn't have any "sources" telling me that. I don't think that's one of BEH's aliases, because the one constant in all of them was contempt for ECU and Terry Holland.

(12-21-2012 08:03 AM)MasMack Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 12:10 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 11:49 PM)MasMack Wrote:  What's even worse about it is the posters that are being so bad are the fans of the new additions, Houston, Memphis, UcF, ECU.

It's weird. I'm sure they'll say they are just trying to convince people of the truth. But they just come across as almost scared of what might really happen, so they say things over in over to make themselves feel better. In the end, they are just trying convince themselves that something great will happen, when really it's a 50/50 chance that this could end up really bad for them.

Ehhh--we were a non-AQ when this all started, whats the worst that can really happen? We end up in the Mountain West. We end up in the Sunbelt? Havnt you guys been saying that "everyones the same now". About the worst that can happen (and it would actually be kind of funny) is that we all pay a bunch of exit fees and the 2014 Big East has the exact same line up as 2012 CUSA.

No buddy. What your scared of is not getting what you signed up for, therefore you stretch the truth to make the situation seem better then it really is. And your one of the worst. I will say you have gotten better lately though.

Well, that's already happened. Yes, I was very optimistic about the Big East situation mainly because I though that realignment was entering a calm phase with Notre Dame moving to a power conference being the final domino to fall in place this round. Rutgers and Mayland to the Big10 was a surprise. My view has changed because the situation has changed. With Rutgers, Louisville, and the basketball schools gone, the ceiling for a nBE contract is much lower.

(12-20-2012 11:49 PM)MasMack Wrote:  What's even worse about it is the posters that are being so bad are the fans of the new additions, Houston, Memphis, UcF, ECU.

It's weird. I'm sure they'll say they are just trying to convince people of the truth. But they just come across as almost scared of what might really happen, so they say things over in over to make themselves feel better. In the end, they are just trying convince themselves that something great will happen, when really it's a 50/50 chance that this could end up really bad for them.

What's the really bad option? We end up in the Sun Belt? If all the gang of 5 leagues are equal anyway then why would that really matter in the long run? If all of us are in the same position then why are Sun-Belt schools leaping to C-USA like rats off a sinking ship? Can we all get our stories straight at least? Is the Sun-Belt equal to C-USA? Are Sun-Belt teams stupid to go to C-USA based on the logic being tossed out on this board?

It was never that high to begin with. Anyone who couldn't see the writing on the wall of all this is crazy. The only suprise was Rutgers/Maryland's move, though Rutgers had been shopping hard.
The superiority complex has been ridiculous since day one, the average everyday fan, not the messageboard fan or the "I love sports" fan, but the casual guy doesn't know the difference between the schools.
And the poster who commented on the money is right, any additional beans you get will get gobbled up in travel expenses at this point.
The MWC, Sun Belt, C-USA, the Fhowever many are left all need to sit down and work it out. Leave the MAC alone, other than needing a 14th team they're kinda their own deal and all seem pretty content to be what they are.
Adjust the teams regionally, the money would be about the same, set up scheduling arrangements for OOC games, where everyone rotates home and homes, then play it out. Shutout the big boys as much as possible, you guys forget the big conferences have a need to play smaller schools, they feel they can "schedule a win" and throw some money at your program. It's borderline collusion, but at this point the bigger conferences are doing just that.

(12-20-2012 07:43 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 07:00 PM)PureGold Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 06:14 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 06:01 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  What sickens and frustrates me the most, is that now is the perfect time to form an actual best-of football conference, and it won't get done because conference commissioners think TV markets are all important.

Which was basically my idea. Dump Boise, SDSU, UNLV, and Fresno and instead go with La Tech, USM, Marshall, and Tulsa.

You get 4 quality football programs and 3(4? again not much info on La Tech basketball) quality basketball programs that would also form a tighter footprint

Thats what they bashed you about.?!?

Yup http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=608540

We're on the up and up these days trying to make our first NCAA appearance in about 20 years.

The men's team is 9-3 with a win over one of those other 3 quality programs you speak of. Let's not talk about the women's team right now.

(12-21-2012 09:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 02:17 AM)99Tiger Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 10:00 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Sorry, I am not interested in the Big east. It is just another have not conference now. If we joined, our travel coast would go sky high with not much more money to off set it. Give us a call when the Big East disolves and we might give you some time to explain why we should let you back in.

If the BE dissolves, the leftover teams will simply sit back and cherry pick a few CUSA schools to reform CUSA under a different name...or go to the MWC.

Would those teams leave if the money isn't all that better plus added travel costs plus already having the same bowl access?

You're making a series of assumptions that I don't necessarily agree with.

The other league commisioners have got to be pretty annoyed at Aresco for putting out so many statements about how he is going to take schools from other leagues.

All that is going to come back and bite him in the a ss.

(12-21-2012 11:34 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  The other league commisioners have got to be pretty annoyed at Aresco for putting out so many statements about how he is going to take schools from other leagues.

All that is going to come back and bite him in the a ss.

I think that any time a conference takes on a life of its own beyond the interests of its constituent schools, that's bad. Banowsky seems to realize this, Aresco may not.