Who wants in and who gets left behind with the sunbelt 4 + UTSA/UAB?

Was this post needed? Like really? Stay classy or GTFO

We'll stay, thanks. Jumping the gun really bit all y'all in the ass. Don't want to see it happen to us.

Im sure the WAC or belt will offer the nBE teams a spot.

And people wonder why I hate ECU so much...

I could be wrong but I really don't see a new conference forming. No TV deal, no bowl affiliations. Also have to remember that the NCAA will not grant an auto-bid in basketball for 6 years on new conferences. Not to mention that the "Group of five" contractually is already in place. Would a new conference automatically be included in the "Group of five"? I dunno.

This thing could go so many different directions. Its really hard to tell what will happen with all of this.

(12-13-2012 01:14 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  And people wonder why I hate ECU so much...

Don't let one poster determine a whole fan base dude.

I believe in the past the NCAA has said it will not be giving out any more auto bids.

I'm sure existing conferences will take issue with adding an additional auto bid as well as it will mean one less at-large bid is available.

Forming a new conference may not be possible.

(12-13-2012 01:14 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I could be wrong but I really don't see a new conference forming. No TV deal, no bowl affiliations. Also have to remember that the NCAA will not grant an auto-bid in basketball for 6 years on new conferences. Not to mention that the "Group of five" contractually is already in place. Would a new conference automatically be included in the "Group of five"? I dunno.

This thing could go so many different directions. Its really hard to tell what will happen with all of this.

If the new league is:

SMU
Memphis
USF
UConn
UCF
Temple
Cincy
USM
Houston
ECU

I think it will do fine TV-wise, and won't need an auto bid to routinely get a rock bottom minimum of 2 bids, assuming the NCAA doesn't waive it in this case. TV rights for football would be up for bids. Bowls? who knows, but the Liberty at least.

(12-13-2012 01:17 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:14 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  And people wonder why I hate ECU so much...

Don't let one poster determine a whole fan base dude.

Too Late!!

Stay clASSy pirates

(12-13-2012 01:17 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:14 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  And people wonder why I hate ECU so much...

Don't let one poster determine a whole fan base dude.

It isn't one poster. I could deal with one poster. I think even the most level headed poster on here would admit they have a bunch of ****** fans on here.

There will be no new conference. They don't have 5 members to let them form a new conference, they will get no bowl tie-ins, (SBC and CUSA will eat all the tie-ins) and there is no logical reason to give them any TV dollars, when it isn't even a regional conference, more like the NCAA Minor Leagues. CUSA, MWC and SBC have regionalisy going, that's how they get TV money. A country wide B conference will get no money. Plus, NCAA clearly said no new auto bids. It's over. Come back, or start a rivalry with Idaho.

ECU and Memphis begged, pleaded, got on their knees to do whatever it took to get to the BE. Now look at what begging got you.

(12-13-2012 01:14 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I could be wrong but I really don't see a new conference forming. No TV deal, no bowl affiliations. Also have to remember that the NCAA will not grant an auto-bid in basketball for 6 years on new conferences. Not to mention that the "Group of five" contractually is already in place. Would a new conference automatically be included in the "Group of five"? I dunno.

This thing could go so many different directions. Its really hard to tell what will happen with all of this.

I really don't see what the big deal is. The C7 will take the BE name and the NCAA will make an exception for the other nBE BBall programs somehow, some way.

The BE FBS programs will still have a league and take the Football TV deals and bowl tie-ins with them to whatever new name they wish.

The football TV contracts and bball contracts are all negotiated separately. Since it's very well split between the sports it should be pretty easy to create a true nBE.

The nBE bball programs will have to find a home or create one. But that's just a momentary issue. A new nBE all sports league will most likely be created. The number if FBS conferences will remain the same.

Nothing changes except the nBE bball and c7 bball split.

The NCAA will cave regarding auto-bids because this is such a significant event. They always do.

Tulsa and UTEP will stay now, and the new schools have no leverage to get USM or Marshall to join them. I will love seeing ECU and SMU flounder.

(12-13-2012 01:31 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:17 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:14 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  And people wonder why I hate ECU so much...

Don't let one poster determine a whole fan base dude.

It isn't one poster. I could deal with one poster. I think even the most level headed poster on here would admit they have a bunch of ****** fans on here.

We love you too.

(12-13-2012 01:31 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  There will be no new conference. They don't have 5 members to let them form a new conference, they will get no bowl tie-ins, (SBC and CUSA will eat all the tie-ins) and there is no logical reason to give them any TV dollars, when it isn't even a regional conference, more like the NCAA Minor Leagues. CUSA, MWC and SBC have regionalisy going, that's how they get TV money. A country wide B conference will get no money. Plus, NCAA clearly said no new auto bids. It's over. Come back, or start a rivalry with Idaho.

The football schools are:

SMU
Memphis
Cincy
UConn
Houston
ECU
USF
UCF
Temple

That's 9. USM would jump in a heartbeat to make it 10. Sounds ok to me.

If the basketball schools *dissolve* the league, which is what is being suggested, then the leftovers don't have a conference. If they leave, and the leftovers are still in the "Big East" that's a big difference.

(12-13-2012 01:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:31 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  There will be no new conference. They don't have 5 members to let them form a new conference, they will get no bowl tie-ins, (SBC and CUSA will eat all the tie-ins) and there is no logical reason to give them any TV dollars, when it isn't even a regional conference, more like the NCAA Minor Leagues. CUSA, MWC and SBC have regionalisy going, that's how they get TV money. A country wide B conference will get no money. Plus, NCAA clearly said no new auto bids. It's over. Come back, or start a rivalry with Idaho.

The football schools are:

SMU
Memphis
Cincy
UConn
Houston
ECU
USF
UCF
Temple

That's 9. USM would jump in a heartbeat to make it 10. Sounds ok to me.

I wouldn't speak for USM. There's not much in that list that makes it better than CUSA.

(12-13-2012 01:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:31 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  There will be no new conference. They don't have 5 members to let them form a new conference, they will get no bowl tie-ins, (SBC and CUSA will eat all the tie-ins) and there is no logical reason to give them any TV dollars, when it isn't even a regional conference, more like the NCAA Minor Leagues. CUSA, MWC and SBC have regionalisy going, that's how they get TV money. A country wide B conference will get no money. Plus, NCAA clearly said no new auto bids. It's over. Come back, or start a rivalry with Idaho.

The football schools are:

SMU
Memphis
Cincy
UConn
Houston
ECU
USF
UCF
Temple

That's 9. USM would jump in a heartbeat to make it 10. Sounds ok to me.

Incorrect. You won't get a good TV contract because your names have been drug through the mud, no regionality. The reason CUSA got a good contract is because there were a lot of smaller, regional yet strong college teams close, which allowed FSN to televise them. Now, the new TV deal is based off a nationwide conference with B and C squads. It'd be like giving AAA baseball an ESPN contract. Clearly don't know much about TV and marketing. That's my major, so, LOL!

The league will dissolve but if it doesn't, the new contract will be amended since the original players are not there and the contract is not new or locked in yet. No bowl bids, and no autobids for the nBE.

Schools like SMU and ECU that can't swallow their pride will return, but UH and Memphis's return will force their hand.