While cleaning house last night and listening to Merle Haggard I got to thinking about this board and all the times we want a "House Cleaning." What does that entail? Aside from Dave Mullins, Barbie Breedlove and maybe not the termination but the reassignment of JoAnn Paty, who do you want to see go administratively? I know coaching wise, most of us feel basketball is stale, and we have a baseball coach who has one winning season in 10 years without any conference titles or NCAA Regional berths on his resume, but whatever. Who is it you want to see go? Give names.
My reasoning for this post is if we're going to pull this football thing off it will take EVERYONE. And maybe you can't give 5,000 dollars a year or even 500 dollars a year, but everyone who wants football back at ETSU is a resource that can be used to help accomplish that goal.
The finish line is in sight, but as a fanbase, community and alumni base it will take everyone who supports football getting the word out as to why and what you're going to do to get it done.
It may be time for another letter writing campaign.

as i have said, the vision of the 125 committee and the current athletics administration are not in line with each other. this president wants a higher athletics profile. I.e., championship football, a better conference affiliation, and better results from our major sports. in contrast, this administration has all but taken the word "football" out of the etsu dictionary. gotten asked to leave the socon. turned down the ovc a few years back, and hitched its wagons to the going nowhere asun. at the same time, giving a pass (and contract extensions) for programs that have mediocre success or are in obvious decline. fan apathy and attendance is in the toilet, and will drop even further this basketball season. off the field/court issues have become more frequent and disturbing. a house cleaning is not only wanted, but needed. we all know the names of the obvious ring leaders that should be held responsible. its just a matter of time before change is called for. it very well could be the shot in the arm etsu needs..

(12-11-2012 02:21 PM)slappywhite Wrote:  as i have said, the vision of the 125 committee and the current athletics administration are not in line with each other. this president wants a higher athletics profile. I.e., championship football, a better conference affiliation, and better results from our major sports. in contrast, this administration has all but taken the word "football" out of the etsu dictionary. gotten asked to leave the socon. turned down the ovc a few years back, and hitched its wagons to the going nowhere asun. at the same time, giving a pass (and contract extensions) for programs that have mediocre success or are in obvious decline. fan apathy and attendance is in the toilet, and will drop even further this basketball season. off the field/court issues have become more frequent and disturbing. a house cleaning is not only wanted, but needed. we all know the names of the obvious ring leaders that should be held responsible. its just a matter of time before change is called for. it very well could be the shot in the arm etsu needs..

100% Dittos. Could not have expressed it better than Slappy. First thing that must happen----a new AD. Nothing will happen with Mullins in charge but continual decline as we all know. Athletics should happen from the President through the AD. Dr. Noland needs his own AD ASAP.

I agree totally, I just want to hear who else? Compliance? Marketing? I think there's genuinely a trust issue between alums and people running the show at ETSU.
Someone also needs to put Shirley Raines on a plane back to Memphis.

(12-11-2012 02:21 PM)slappywhite Wrote:  as i have said, the vision of the 125 committee and the current athletics administration are not in line with each other. this president wants a higher athletics profile. I.e., championship football, a better conference affiliation, and better results from our major sports. in contrast, this administration has all but taken the word "football" out of the etsu dictionary. gotten asked to leave the socon. turned down the ovc a few years back, and hitched its wagons to the going nowhere asun. at the same time, giving a pass (and contract extensions) for programs that have mediocre success or are in obvious decline. fan apathy and attendance is in the toilet, and will drop even further this basketball season. off the field/court issues have become more frequent and disturbing. a house cleaning is not only wanted, but needed. we all know the names of the obvious ring leaders that should be held responsible. its just a matter of time before change is called for. it very well could be the shot in the arm etsu needs..

Absolutely!! You have hit the nail on the head. I might add, ETSU athletics can NEVER be advanced with the current athletic "leaders". Period.

Again, I agree. Make a list of everyone you want to see gone. Put the names out there. Everyone knows mine, administratively, Dave, Barbie have to go, JoAnn needs reassignment. Coaching wise, Skole, Bartow, and Devine. I believe they were part of the problem in 2003 and still are today.
I guess my point is that's not a true house cleaning, I don't want to see Jay get fired, I don't think Coach Warren, Calabrese, the new women's soccer coach, the softball coach, or Kevin Brown are worthy of termination. Roger Hammonds doesn't deserve a good firing. So who?

(12-11-2012 03:17 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  I agree totally, I just want to hear who else? Compliance? Marketing? I think there's genuinely a trust issue between alums and people running the show at ETSU.
Someone also needs to put Shirley Raines on a plane back to Memphis.

as far as compliance, marketing, basa, and every other department encompassed in athletics...if they cannot do thier job bigger and better than they are doing now, there will be a change. i think most will be given the opportunity to show that they can, but if they cannot, they can grab thier severance package at the door.

the future athletics vision, football, and the kind of support (both internally and externally) that it will take to get it done, will cause those that have settled into a complacent posture to be cast aside and replaced with those that can . the president and new ad will see to that.

(12-11-2012 03:32 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Again, I agree. Make a list of everyone you want to see gone. Put the names out there. Everyone knows mine, administratively, Dave, Barbie have to go, JoAnn needs reassignment. Coaching wise, Skole, Bartow, and Devine. I believe they were part of the problem in 2003 and still are today.
I guess my point is that's not a true house cleaning, I don't want to see Jay get fired, I don't think Coach Warren, Calabrese, the new women's soccer coach, the softball coach, or Kevin Brown are worthy of termination. Roger Hammonds doesn't deserve a good firing. So who?

i think you will see that many in the department are very capable of doing thier job, and doing it well..with proper leadership. most are doing a good job now. they are simply hamstrung by the administration.

skole is due a good year (and needs one). devine is fine (its volleyball).

warren, calebrees, shelton, zaatini, sayers, watts are all good coaches for what the sport brings to the table.

bartow, kemp need to be looked at from a "state of the program" standpoint.

compliance and academic support will have to step it up.

basa and marketing needs to be looked at.

ancillary staff...media relations, sports medicine, equipment mgmt., business office and bucradio network all do a good job.

i am not calling for change in every area that is looked at. it just has to at least show improvement. just my opinion.

The area of need top priority in my opinion is attendance. I realize lower attendance maybe a trend across the country due to economic conditions... Still, it looks to me ETSU has dropped significantly. I'm guessing but I wouldn't be surprised if Science Hill has better attendance numbers. Unfortunately it seems ETSU ball games is not the discussion at the water cooler or the coffee pot unless it's a talk about breaking the law players. Times are tough, ask Bristol Motor Speedway. ETSU needs strategies to combat this problem. I like gimmicks like what I saw posted on Facebook where this college promotion has complete silence by the crowd until the first score after something like a ten minute period of time. The crowd went nuts over this and the gym was packed!

First and foremost, a new AD MUST be hired, a Noland AD, one Noland can trust to accomplish his goals for the athletic department. From there, it will be the new AD's job to determine who goes and who stays based on job performance and the goals and directions that Noland envisions. Each position would have to be evaluated. As someone else said, the folks who can rise to the new standards and get the job done stay, those who can't or choose not to meet the new standards go.

Concur. We all know this yet it still have happened.

I suspect that Skole needs to have a very good year to keep his job, new AD or not. His .397 win percentage in Atlantic Sun play since we moved in 2006 doesn't bode well for that kind of year.

I would go out on a limb and say that Irwin could be gone if he doesn't make the tournament. He's 4-34 in conference in two seasons, and nearly all of the Mangrum kids are out of the system by this point. He doesn't have to win the tournament, or really even win any games, but he has to show signs of forward progress to keep his job.

I get the feeling that most people over there are good people, they are just yes-men. With that said, Dave and Jackie Mullins need to go, along with Barbie. The management of BASA also needs restructuring. I love Tony Skole, but he needs results and FAST. Anyone that won't go along with the presidents plan will and SHOULD be gone.

I got a new respect for Skole late last year after his controversy (I know many on here disagree). I actually plan on going to my first ETSU baseball games this upcoming season.

I think Bartow needs to go, but it needs to be on a good note, not after this year. Ive never understood how Kemp has kept her job.

The marketing certainly is an issue, as there is zero buzz around the program. To be fair, they are dealing with a tough sports town. The in game promotions are awful, I hear complaints for the last 3 years about these in the stands. The best thing they did this year is invest in a T-shirt shooter that can actually make it to the top of the stands. But then they came up with a Mr. Potato Head promo which is embarrassing. Notice I did not say anything bad about the people behind those departments, because I do not know them. But their results are subpar.

The best asset we have is Jay Santos. He is more exciting to listen to than any of the SEC broadcasts that I have heard. The worst thing we have is the BASA donation requirement for season tickets. I absolutely think that this ultimately costs ETSU money. Its been 6 years now that I would have bought 4 season tickets if not for that requirement. That would have been over $3,500 for the university during that time, which they lost because they wanted me to donate an additional $600. I imagine I am not close to alone. UT has even started selling some of their season tickets for football without a donation. ETSU should have never required it.

rick byrd should be fired so we could hire him in place of murry. while at it, fire belmonts ad so we can hire him too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or anybodys ad for that matter

What about White? He has been spinning so long for Stanton and Mullins can he actually put out a real press release with actual facts and not just the garage Mullins has
been making him feed us all these years.

(12-11-2012 08:49 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  What about White? He has been spinning so long for Stanton and Mullins can he actually put out a real press release with actual facts and not just the garage Mullins has
been making him feed us all these years.

I get the impression that Mike is a good guy and is just doing what he is told. I know that he would love to have football back.

(12-11-2012 08:49 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  What about White? He has been spinning so long for Stanton and Mullins can he actually put out a real press release with actual facts and not just the garage Mullins has
been making him feed us all these years.

What, you mean the SID for a school is biased towards that school? I, for one, am just shocked by this development.

If you want objective reporting on the team, go to the Johnson City Press some place other than the school's actual website.

(12-11-2012 11:48 PM)Mister Consistency Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 08:49 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  What about White? He has been spinning so long for Stanton and Mullins can he actually put out a real press release with actual facts and not just the garage Mullins has
been making him feed us all these years.

What, you mean the SID for a school is biased towards that school? I, for one, am just shocked by this development.

If you want objective reporting on the team, go to the Johnson City Press some place other than the school's actual website.

I am talking more about when he would post on here and tell us that sky is green and the grasss is blue, eveything is sunshine and lolipops, But he would also claim he was his own man and that was HIS opinion not the one he was paid to have. Don't really care what he trys to post, Iam not going to believe him but he keeps trying to insult our intelligence by saying those are his thougths, not Mullins. We all know better he isn't paid to have his on opinion, he is paid to say whatever he is told to. He just needs to own thatand admit it, i am not going to hold it against him for doing his job but it does piss me off when he trys to lie and say otherwise.

I don't know, maybe back then he was doing that. I know for a fact that a football helmet has been in his office since it was dropped, in fact the one in my avatar that Beavis and Butthead are holding is the one sitting on his shelf. Or atleast it used to be there.
Once Mullins goes, then the rest either will go with him or get on board with the new guy. I feel for whomever it is that takes over, it's going to take alot to rebuild the trust that's been broken there.