(12-06-2012 05:04 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Wow.....talk about a punch to the gut to all the schools who paid 12 Million to leave CUSA (7 Million exit, 5 Million entry into Big East). Add another school (or lose Uconn/Cincy) and that payout becomes even smaller. Football only members are expected to receive less than half that of a full member. Probably in the 1.5-1.8 range.

Just to put his in perspective.....CUSA's 5 year deal when signed was in the 70 Million range total between CBS and Fox.

You have fun in the CUSunbelt.

Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

(12-06-2012 05:11 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:04 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Wow.....talk about a punch to the gut to all the schools who paid 12 Million to leave CUSA (7 Million exit, 5 Million entry into Big East). Add another school (or lose Uconn/Cincy) and that payout becomes even smaller. Football only members are expected to receive less than half that of a full member. Probably in the 1.5-1.8 range.

Just to put his in perspective.....CUSA's 5 year deal when signed was in the 70 Million range total between CBS and Fox.

You have fun in the CUSunbelt.

Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

And ours cant travel to Philly, Annapolis, and Hartford?

Quote:And ours cant travel to Philly,

Do you value your life? :)

(12-06-2012 05:11 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:04 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Wow.....talk about a punch to the gut to all the schools who paid 12 Million to leave CUSA (7 Million exit, 5 Million entry into Big East). Add another school (or lose Uconn/Cincy) and that payout becomes even smaller. Football only members are expected to receive less than half that of a full member. Probably in the 1.5-1.8 range.

Just to put his in perspective.....CUSA's 5 year deal when signed was in the 70 Million range total between CBS and Fox.

You have fun in the CUSunbelt.

Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

Sunbelt schedule just sounds awesome.... We had to get out. We know that we didn't move up to the big leagues, but at least we didn't get held back and left for dead in what is now nothing more then the SunBelt.

(12-06-2012 05:14 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  Sunbelt schedule just sounds awesome.... We had to get out. We know that we didn't move up to the big leagues, but at least we didn't get held back and left for dead in what is now nothing more then the SunBelt.

I love how that less than two weeks ago, some of you ECU fans were DEFENDING the potential that these new schools added... now it's "left for dead".

This is the hypocrisy many of us were talking about earlier.. Everything's just fine while you were in the conference, but now that you're out, "Hey, let's just let the REAL feelings out about how we felt about those other schools".

(12-06-2012 04:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  "That gives the league 15 football-playing schools when Navy joins in 2015. Using the figures described above, that would mean the average payout per school of $4 million-$5.3 million per year."

Wow.....talk about a punch to the gut to all the schools who paid 12 Million to leave CUSA (7 Million exit, 5 Million entry into Big East). Add another school (or lose Uconn/Cincy) and that payout becomes even smaller. Football only members are expected to receive less than half that of a full member. Probably in the 1.5-1.8 range.

Just to put his in perspective.....CUSA's 5 year deal when signed was in the 70 Million range total between CBS and Fox.

Go look at the C-USA bylaws. We will only pay a $500K exit fee plus any loss of TV revenue over the life of the contract. I believe there would be another 1-2 years on that contract. If the TV execs give the C-USA the same deal, then UCF, SMU, ECU, Houston, and Memphis only pay $500K.

(12-06-2012 05:11 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

I believe that, respect that and I think other schools share that opinion. You didn't have a long relationship with the C-USA teams, you're getting better travel, the TV contract isn't going to go down (it won't rise, but it won't fall either).
But that's also why some teams have been looking to bolt. They aren't getting travel aid, they are losing long term relationships, etc.

(12-06-2012 05:12 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:11 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:04 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Wow.....talk about a punch to the gut to all the schools who paid 12 Million to leave CUSA (7 Million exit, 5 Million entry into Big East). Add another school (or lose Uconn/Cincy) and that payout becomes even smaller. Football only members are expected to receive less than half that of a full member. Probably in the 1.5-1.8 range.

Just to put his in perspective.....CUSA's 5 year deal when signed was in the 70 Million range total between CBS and Fox.

You have fun in the CUSunbelt.

Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

And ours cant travel to Philly, Annapolis, and Hartford?

I'm not saying you cant. Personally I'd rather travel south in the fall. Nashville, Norfolk and Charlotte....are all more appealing to me. Although Annapolis is a great place to visit assuming Navy keeps its commitment. Philly?....I can do without. Hartford?...Again, I could do without. Besides, do you honestly think UCONN stays around? I don't think so. To many TV sets for them to not eventually get in the ACC, or Big Ten.

I do hope it works out for ECU though. I have absolutely nothing against ECU.

(12-06-2012 05:19 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:12 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:11 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:04 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Wow.....talk about a punch to the gut to all the schools who paid 12 Million to leave CUSA (7 Million exit, 5 Million entry into Big East). Add another school (or lose Uconn/Cincy) and that payout becomes even smaller. Football only members are expected to receive less than half that of a full member. Probably in the 1.5-1.8 range.

Just to put his in perspective.....CUSA's 5 year deal when signed was in the 70 Million range total between CBS and Fox.

You have fun in the CUSunbelt.

Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

And ours cant travel to Philly, Annapolis, and Hartford?

I'm not saying you cant. Personally I'd rather travel south in the fall. Nashville, Norfolk and Charlotte....are all more appealing to me. Although Annapolis is a great place to visit assuming Navy keeps its commitment. Philly?....I can do without. Hartford?...Again, I could do without. Besides, do you honestly think UCONN stays around? I don't think so. To many TV sets for them to not eventually get in the ACC, or Big Ten.

I do hope it works out for ECU though. I have absolutely nothing against ECU.

I'd certainly rather travel to Nashville if it wasnt to play MTSU, Norfolk is a dump honestly..... Charlotte? I can go there anytime anyway

Quote: We will only pay a $500K exit fee plus any loss of TV revenue over the life of the contract. I believe there would be another 1-2 years on that contract.

The deal was signed last year, I believe with CBS/FOX.. so three more years on that contract.. So I think it's still in the 3-4M range now per original school that leaves. (70/5 years.. comes out to 14 year = 1.2M per school (give or take) x 3 = 3.6 +500K .. so 4.1 Million, plus the Basketball credits (whatever number that turns into, which I don't think is more than a few hundred thousand per school)

So if ECU isn't leaving until next year I think they would be paying 2.9M

(12-06-2012 05:17 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:11 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

I believe that, respect that and I think other schools share that opinion. You didn't have a long relationship with the C-USA teams, you're getting better travel, the TV contract isn't going to go down (it won't rise, but it won't fall either).
But that's also why some teams have been looking to bolt. They aren't getting travel aid, they are losing long term relationships, etc.

I understand what you are saying ED. That's probably true for some schools.

(12-06-2012 05:14 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:11 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:04 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Wow.....talk about a punch to the gut to all the schools who paid 12 Million to leave CUSA (7 Million exit, 5 Million entry into Big East). Add another school (or lose Uconn/Cincy) and that payout becomes even smaller. Football only members are expected to receive less than half that of a full member. Probably in the 1.5-1.8 range.

Just to put his in perspective.....CUSA's 5 year deal when signed was in the 70 Million range total between CBS and Fox.

You have fun in the CUSunbelt.

Little upset at the numbers eh?

Trust me...I will have fun traveling to Charlotte, Norfolk, Nashville etc. Those are cities that our fan base can travel to and I look forward to it.

Sunbelt schedule just sounds awesome.... We had to get out. We know that we didn't move up to the big leagues, but at least we didn't get held back and left for dead in what is now nothing more then the SunBelt.

I understand you all being 'fortunate' to leave for the Big East, a move that most/all C-USA teams would make if we had the chance. However, I wouldn't be so cocky about the move if I were you. This year shows that in any given year, any conference from the Big East on 'down' could take that coveted spot in the BCS. This year it was the MAC... If Tulsa runs the table... its C-USA Also, don't forget after football season is over, these are your best friends...

William & Mary
George Mason
Northeastern
Towson
UNC Wilmington
James Madison
Delaware
Hofstra
Drexel

(12-06-2012 05:21 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

Quote: We will only pay a $500K exit fee plus any loss of TV revenue over the life of the contract. I believe there would be another 1-2 years on that contract.

The deal was signed last year, I believe with CBS/FOX.. so three more years on that contract.. So I think it's still in the 3-4M range now per original school that leaves. (70/5 years.. comes out to 14 year = 1.2M per school (give or take) x 3 = 3.6 +500K .. so 4.1 Million, plus the Basketball credits (whatever number that turns into, which I don't think is more than a few hundred thousand per school)

So if ECU isn't leaving until next year I think they would be paying 2.9M

It doesn't really matter if CBS/Fox keeps the value at the same level. The bylaws stated it would be $500K plus the loss of TV revenue. Even if CBS/FOX lowers it 25% it would be much lower that the 7 million dollar fee that is posted on here.

(12-06-2012 05:27 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  It doesn't really matter if CBS/Fox keeps the value at the same level. The bylaws stated it would be $500K plus the loss of TV revenue. Even if CBS/FOX lowers it 25% it would be much lower that the 7 million dollar fee that is posted on here.

It's not being lowered, KT.. i was simply doing quick math on the current numbers. Again if my math is right it's 4.1M for the first group out. Actually ECU would also be at the $750k level (they weren't grandfathered in to my knowledge, only Houston was.)

So if this is year 2 of the 5 year contract (which again, I _think_ it is.)

Memphis, Tulane, Houston : $4.1 M
UCF, SMU: $4.8M
ECU : Currently $4.8M (3.6M if after next FB season)

I don't know if the first 5 schools have to forfeit their TV money for the past season (don't see why they would?), but if they did just add 1.2M to each number.

(12-06-2012 05:35 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  It's not being lowered, KT.. i was simply doing quick math on the current numbers. Again if my math is right it's 4.1M for the first group out. Actually ECU would also be at the $750k level (they weren't grandfathered in to my knowledge, only Houston was.)

So if this is year 2 of the 5 year contract (which again, I _think_ it is.)

Memphis, Tulane, Houston : $4.1 M
UCF, SMU: $4.8M
ECU : Currently $4.8M (3.6M if after next FB season)

I don't know if the first 5 schools have to forfeit their TV money for the past season (don't see why they would?), but if they did just add 1.2M to each number.

It is loss of TV revenue according to the bylaws. Unless the TV contract goes to $0, it won't be the $4+ million dollar number.

(12-06-2012 05:37 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:35 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  It's not being lowered, KT.. i was simply doing quick math on the current numbers. Again if my math is right it's 4.1M for the first group out. Actually ECU would also be at the $750k level (they weren't grandfathered in to my knowledge, only Houston was.)

So if this is year 2 of the 5 year contract (which again, I _think_ it is.)

Memphis, Tulane, Houston : $4.1 M
UCF, SMU: $4.8M
ECU : Currently $4.8M (3.6M if after next FB season)

I don't know if the first 5 schools have to forfeit their TV money for the past season (don't see why they would?), but if they did just add 1.2M to each number.

It is loss of TV revenue according to the bylaws. Unless the TV contract goes to $0, it won't be the $4+ million dollar number.

If the original contract is no longer valid... then that's a BIGGER loss of revenue. At least that's how I read that one when it was passed around.

Bottom line is the Big East is much much better than CUSA. Don't know why some arguing this. We all would jump at a invite

Awaiting the spin

That being said, it doesn't excuse the ECU fans to act like Louisville fans

(12-06-2012 05:17 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 05:14 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  Sunbelt schedule just sounds awesome.... We had to get out. We know that we didn't move up to the big leagues, but at least we didn't get held back and left for dead in what is now nothing more then the SunBelt.

I love how that less than two weeks ago, some of you ECU fans were DEFENDING the potential that these new schools added... now it's "left for dead".

This is the hypocrisy many of us were talking about earlier.. Everything's just fine while you were in the conference, but now that you're out, "Hey, let's just let the REAL feelings out about how we felt about those other schools".

Well just remember I was being honest about my opinion the whole time. Some didn't like that, and I said that plenty more ECU fans than just me felt the exact same way. Most kept it to themselves. I have defended ODU's potential, as I think it's sky high.