If I am not mistaken, bowl agreements expire after the 2013 season. Does anyone have insight into what CUSA bowl ties will look like for 2014 forward? A few of you have said it looks like the Liberty Bowl tie will be gone.

I'm sure the GoDaddy will have an opening if CUSA wants to jump on it. Benson and the SBC pissed them off this go round.

Not pretty, I'm sure.

Liberty will be gone for sure, to set up a Big East/SEC game, especially with Memphis now in the league.

I imagine the Big East will lose the Champs Sports Bowl, but may gain the Belk Bowl vs ACC, with ECU now in the fold. They would travel a ton to that game (as would the Herd ... just sayin' ... of course not as many as ECU probably would). Charlotte and Myrtle Beach are WV Southern as anyone from here most certainly knows. Herd and ECU both have a ton of Alumni in Charlotte as well. Belk will be a great bowl for the nBE, no doubt, although it sucks they may lose the Orlando/Champs Game, but nothing is official on that as of yet. Any inside infor from the UCF peeps on that front?

CUSA will probably keep most of the rest of the bowl line up in place, and may steal one from the SunBelt when all is said and done, or perhaps just be an add on/alternate to another bowl like the Independence if the SEC doesn't fill all of it's slots or something.

I'm sure we'll keep the Hawai'i bowl, as no one wants to spend all that money going out there.

The alternate spot for the Heart of Dallas/"Cotton" will be gone full time to the Big XII.

So we'll basically have (Hawai'i, Armed Forces, Beef's, Military, New Orleans), plus maybe an alternate slot to something.
So, it's gonna suck, pretty much. Maybe we'll pick the GoDaddy.com bowl back up, but I doubt it.

(12-03-2012 02:23 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  Not pretty, I'm sure.

Liberty will be gone for sure, to set up a Big East/SEC game, especially with Memphis now in the league.

I imagine the Big East will lose the Champs Sports Bowl, but may gain the Belk Bowl vs ACC, with ECU now in the fold. They would travel a ton to that game (as would the Herd ... just sayin' ... of course not as many as ECU probably would). Charlotte and Myrtle Beach are WV Southern as anyone from here most certainly knows. Herd and ECU both have a ton of Alumni in Charlotte as well. Belk will be a great bowl for the nBE, no doubt, although it sucks they may lose the Orlando/Champs Game, but nothing is official on that as of yet. Any inside infor from the UCF peeps on that front?

CUSA will probably keep most of the rest of the bowl line up in place, and may steal one from the SunBelt when all is said and done, or perhaps just be an add on/alternate to another bowl like the Independence if the SEC doesn't fill all of it's slots or something.

I'm sure we'll keep the Hawai'i bowl, as no one wants to spend all that money going out there.

The alternate spot for the Heart of Dallas/"Cotton" will be gone full time to the Big XII.

So we'll basically have (Hawai'i, Armed Forces, Beef's, Military, New Orleans), plus maybe an alternate slot to something.
So, it's gonna suck, pretty much. Maybe we'll pick the GoDaddy.com bowl back up, but I doubt it.

I could see the Military swinging to the BE in a few years as well with ECU and Navy in the area (guaranteed sell out)

(12-03-2012 02:23 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  So, it's gonna suck, pretty much.

What's funny is that it sounds incredible to us.

(12-03-2012 02:31 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I could see the Military swinging to the BE in a few years as well with ECU and Navy in the area (guaranteed sell out)

I agree. I could def see that going the BE route.

D.C., hmmm, yet another location full of Herd Alumni. Again, Just sayin' ...

I really hope we get to join back up with you guys soon.

If (I should be positive here and say when) we get bowl eligible again, we would travel a ton of people to both Charlotte or D.C. Lots of Marshall Alums in both locations + easily drivable for us as well.

But I'm with you, I figure the BE might get that one too.

(12-03-2012 02:59 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 02:31 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I could see the Military swinging to the BE in a few years as well with ECU and Navy in the area (guaranteed sell out)

I agree. I could def see that going the BE route.

D.C., hmmm, yet another location full of Herd Alumni. Again, Just sayin' ...

I really hope we get to join back up with you guys soon.

If (I should be positive here and say when) we get bowl eligible again, we would travel a ton of people to both Charlotte or D.C. Lots of Marshall Alums in both locations + easily drivable for us as well.

But I'm with you, I figure the BE might get that one too.

Yeah, with BE eventually going to 16, we'll need to add more bowls. I know we're adding Poinsettia, Potato, and Liberty..... holding onto Belk and adding Military would be good.

(12-03-2012 02:40 PM)MTowho Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 02:23 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  So, it's gonna suck, pretty much.

What's funny is that it sounds incredible to us.

Wow, didn't realize you guys only had 2 bowls in your line up.

I feel ya though. When the Herd was in the MAC there was only one bowl (the Motor City Bowl) and you either won the championship and went to it, or you didn't go anywhere.

Luckily, we always won it.

They finally added the GMAC Bowl so we went there in full force as well (sorry ECU fans, it's painful I know).

Sadly, if we'd have waited another couple of years to go undefeated and finish in the top 10 we'd have been in a BCS bowl, but instead we played in yet another MCB, dominating BYU and every QB they had on their roster.

So we own the "heart of dallas" bowl right? Why aren't we playing in it?

(12-03-2012 12:47 PM)MTowho Wrote:  If I am not mistaken, bowl agreements expire after the 2013 season. Does anyone have insight into what CUSA bowl ties will look like for 2014 forward? A few of you have said it looks like the Liberty Bowl tie will be gone.

I'm sure the GoDaddy will have an opening if CUSA wants to jump on it. Benson and the SBC pissed them off this go round.

You are correct that the Go Daddy wasn't happy with the New Orleans bowl's decision to pick early. Again. But, I think overall, the Go Daddy is able to work with the Belt. The New Orleans bowl will not be picking first next year. And besides, the NO Bowl is required to take the Sun Belt champ next year (the SBC champ must play in the NO Bowl once every 3 years) so ULL will have to earn their way back there next year.

But the biggest "F-U" that has ever been directed at the Go Daddy came from....drumroll.... CUSA, who had teams refuse to take bids when they were contracted to do so, instructed their fans to stay in the casinos in Biloxi instead of in Mobile, and demeaned the bowl greatly. That was one of the reasons why the Belt got the CUSA's slot.

For the payout that the Go Daddy has, the Belt makes sense for them. Its also played in a Sun Belt stadium. Generally, the MAC folks have been pretty good about keeping up their part of the bargain. Although, this year, it looks like correction had to be given to them over Kent State to Boise rumors.

People will show up in Mobile to support the Sun Belt team because its a conference mate of USA. I shudder to think of the attendence for a matchup involving FIU, FAU, UNT, UNCC, Old Dominion, UTSA, Rice, or UTEP. At least with the Belt, they'll get a first or second place team and some interested locals in the game.

In other words, if you'd like to put the Go Daddy in as rotation for the CUSA champion, they'd be interested in talking to you (but probably as a replacement for the MAC team). But I'm not so sure they're interested in CUSA number 6. You guys don't have the kind of depth you once did. No hate, but that's how we see it in Mobile.

Its also highly unlikely that the Go Daddy will ever have an unfilled bowl slot so long as they get 1st/2nd pick from the MAC/Belt. A contingent from the bowl is kind of pointless.

(12-03-2012 03:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  In other words, if you'd like to put the Go Daddy in as rotation for the CUSA champion, they'd be interested in talking to you (but probably as a replacement for the MAC team).

No offense to any of you current Sun Belt folks, but assuming we are still here at that point, if we can't find a better bowl for the CUSA champ than the GoDaddy.com bowl, I'll be highly pissed.

That said, it was a fun bowl to go to. I went to the first one vs ECU. Didn't make it to the Louisville beat down, but watched that one on TV.

For any ECU folks who'd like to reminisce a bit, here is a bottle of champagne that the hotel we were staying at in Mobile had for sale. I almost didn't buy it, but I thought what the hell.



And here are some grass clippings I pulled up from the mid-field logo after that crazy ass game.



Sorry for the reminder. But I do love playing you guys every year. It's down to the wire every time. I'll be rooting for you guys in Nawlins.

^^^^Lying, Photoshopping, Vandal^^^^

I could see the Independence Bowl going to CUSA. Esp with LT now in it. Plus with USM and other close by.

(12-03-2012 03:38 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 03:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  In other words, if you'd like to put the Go Daddy in as rotation for the CUSA champion, they'd be interested in talking to you (but probably as a replacement for the MAC team).

No offense to any of you current Sun Belt folks, but assuming we are still here at that point, if we can't find a better bowl for the CUSA champ than the GoDaddy.com bowl, I'll be highly pissed.

That said, it was a fun bowl to go to. I went to the first one vs ECU. Didn't make it to the Louisville beat down, but watched that one on TV.

For any ECU folks who'd like to reminisce a bit, here is a bottle of champagne that the hotel we were staying at in Mobile had for sale. I almost didn't buy it, but I thought what the hell.



And here are some grass clippings I pulled up from the mid-field logo after that crazy ass game.



Sorry for the reminder. But I do love playing you guys every year. It's down to the wire every time. I'll be rooting for you guys in Nawlins.

Are we going to do something special for next year's game? Its looking like it will be the last Marshall vs. East Carolina game for atleast 10 years

(12-03-2012 03:38 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 03:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  In other words, if you'd like to put the Go Daddy in as rotation for the CUSA champion, they'd be interested in talking to you (but probably as a replacement for the MAC team).

No offense to any of you current Sun Belt folks, but assuming we are still here at that point, if we can't find a better bowl for the CUSA champ than the GoDaddy.com bowl, I'll be highly pissed.

That said, it was a fun bowl to go to. I went to the first one vs ECU. Didn't make it to the Louisville beat down, but watched that one on TV.

For any ECU folks who'd like to reminisce a bit, here is a bottle of champagne that the hotel we were staying at in Mobile had for sale. I almost didn't buy it, but I thought what the hell.



And here are some grass clippings I pulled up from the mid-field logo after that crazy ass game.



Sorry for the reminder. But I do love playing you guys every year. It's down to the wire every time. I'll be rooting for you guys in Nawlins.

No offense taken. The Go Daddy, for the payout it is able to provide gets 1st or 2nd pick from two conferences, which usually sets up a much better game than it would get from the 4th, 5th, or 6th place pick from CUSA. The reaction was exactly what I expected. If the Belt wants to give Go Daddy pick number 3, and CUSA is offering pick number 4, well then it might change things. But as they stand now....I just don't see it.

Also, in a point that is directed at the Belt and CUSA....since there is no penalty for going outside one's contract for a team, there is little incentive for a bowl not to do a primary with some AQ conference (knowing that it will only hit once every 3 or 4 years). I think primary links are going to become more difficult to pin down for the MAC/Belt/CUSA, not easier.

The Heart of Dallas Bowl tie-in agreemeGnt stays the same with CUSA, B12, and B1G involved. B12 and B1G are scheduled for 2013. CUSA and B1G are scheduled for 2014. CUSA will put a team into Dallas Bowl anytime B12 or B1G do not have a bowl elgible team.

CUSA now owns the Dallas Bowl and it appears conferences are taking over the ownership of their bowls. I think CUSA should put a bowl in San Antonio, a very attractive site.

In the future, SEC will probably not be able to fulfill its commitments to Liberty Bowl and Birmingham Bowls, so I see CUSA involved with these two bowls. SEC might have as many as 3 teams in the 6 BCS bowl arrangement coming on and the lower SEC affiliated bowls will have problems.

The New Orleans Bowl is an attractive bowl but, with the many broadcast outlets now available, it would be nice to make it a post Xmas Bowl.

(12-03-2012 04:02 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  I could see the Independence Bowl going to CUSA. Esp with LT now in it. Plus with USM and other close by.

What makes you think the I-Bowl is attached to the hip of La Tech. If they really cared about La Tech and what conference we are in, do you think we would be sitting here without a bowl invite at 9-3 on the season.

Alamo Bowl tie in?

(12-03-2012 04:51 PM)Bluedawg10 Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 04:02 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  I could see the Independence Bowl going to CUSA. Esp with LT now in it. Plus with USM and other close by.

What makes you think the I-Bowl is attached to the hip of La Tech. If they really cared about La Tech and what conference we are in, do you think we would be sitting here without a bowl invite at 9-3 on the season.

While some bowls are extensions of the conferences and teams that created them..

The Independence Bowl is NOT tied to La Tech. They're interested in filling hotel rooms and stadium seats. They're going to be give La Tech the benefit of the doubt most years, due to the fact that La Tech is the closest FBS program, but they're not owned or really even tied to them in any significant way.

The Independence Bowl is unlikely to do anything as a primary for CUSA unless they get the champion. They want SEC and Big XII teams.

(12-03-2012 04:57 PM)Proud El Pasoan Wrote:  Alamo Bowl tie in?

That's also going to be a tough sell for CUSA. This years matchup features TEXAS vs Oregon State. They get a high pick from both the Big XII and the Pac 12. They're high enough on the pick list to ensure that they'll probably never have to fill a contigency.

Even if you offered them the championship, they're not going to give that up.

I think bowl selection day is going to get more confusing, not less in the future.

(12-03-2012 04:20 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Are we going to do something special for next year's game? Its looking like it will be the last Marshall vs. East Carolina game for atleast 10 years

Hopefully, by then we'll be in the Big East together (along with USM), but barring that never, ever happening for us (I know you feel our pain)...

I have heard that our AD's have been working on an every other year arrangement 1-1.

If any game needs to go on, it's this one, IMO.

But again, hopefully we'll be in the BE with you at that point. I'd take a FB only invite in a heartbeat to get a foot in the door.