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RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU?
(12-03-2012 08:08 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  Boise and their alums should pressure the state into joining the UI system then becoming the flagship. It would be the only way to get the funding and respect on the academic side that is already there for parts of the athletic program.

I believe Idaho is the flagship school
12-04-2012 01:49 AM
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RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU?
(12-03-2012 12:01 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  I can't believe how many people on these boards actually think Boise to P12 is a remote possibility. Boise isn't too far removed from their roots as a community college, only has a handful of doctorate degrees and has under a $100M endowment. They've actually got a trucker school and other vocational programs.

03-lmfao Yeah, that's Pac 12 material right there.

that POS school is in your POS conference, take it for what it is worth
12-04-2012 02:04 AM
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RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU?
(12-02-2012 04:56 PM)Niner National Wrote:  If they can suck up their academic pride like the ACC did with the Louisville addition, they'd get excellent adds for both basketball and football.

I'm not sure if there's anything more overrated than Pac 12 "academics."

Arizona - 120th
Arizona State - 139th
Oregon - 115th
Oregon State - 139th
Utah - 125th
Washington State - 125th
(San Diego State - 165th)
(Boise State - 62nd, Regional Universities - West)

That's 50% of the conference outside the top 114. That's the same ratio the SEC had prior to adding Missouri and Texas A&M.

Arkansas - 131st
Kentucky - 125th
Louisiana State - 134th
Mississippi - 151st
Mississippi State - 160th
South Carolina - 115th

* US News rankings
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RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU?
he was asked if they would get a look and he gave a pc answer. i wouldnt put too much into it
12-04-2012 06:42 AM
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RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU?
(12-04-2012 01:49 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  
(12-03-2012 08:08 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  Boise and their alums should pressure the state into joining the UI system then becoming the flagship. It would be the only way to get the funding and respect on the academic side that is already there for parts of the athletic program.

I believe Idaho is the flagship school

What I'm saying is that they should lobby to become the flagship of the state. It'd probably be what's best for the state. Having the name university of state where it currently is in Moscow is like the University of Texas being in Fort Stockton (i.e. in the middle of nowhere something like halfway between San Antonio and El Paso).
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RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU?
Idaho is a stellar research Uni. U of I fans would riot if that flipped to Boise (they're already grumbling)
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RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU?
(12-04-2012 04:43 AM)JustAnotherName Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 04:56 PM)Niner National Wrote:  If they can suck up their academic pride like the ACC did with the Louisville addition, they'd get excellent adds for both basketball and football.

I'm not sure if there's anything more overrated than Pac 12 "academics."

Arizona - 120th
Arizona State - 139th
Oregon - 115th
Oregon State - 139th
Utah - 125th
Washington State - 125th
(San Diego State - 165th)
(Boise State - 62nd, Regional Universities - West)

That's 50% of the conference outside the top 114. That's the same ratio the SEC had prior to adding Missouri and Texas A&M.

Arkansas - 131st
Kentucky - 125th
Louisiana State - 134th
Mississippi - 151st
Mississippi State - 160th
South Carolina - 115th

* US News rankings



You left out all the California schools which are stellar. I attended USC and its academics are top notch. Stanford, Cal, and UCLA are among the best universities in the country.

The only real "great" academic schools in the SEC are Vanderbilt and Florida, and neither of those schools holds a candle to the schools in the PAC-12
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(12-05-2012 12:02 AM)hardw0od Wrote:  I attended USC

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(12-05-2012 12:02 AM)hardw0od Wrote:  You left out all the California schools which are stellar. I attended USC and its academics are top notch. Stanford, Cal, and UCLA are among the best universities in the country.

The only real "great" academic schools in the SEC are Vanderbilt and Florida, and neither of those schools holds a candle to the schools in the PAC-12

I think your general point is valid........but I think Vanderbilt holds a large academic candle to any school in the Pac-12 except Stanford.

This is the C-USA forum, but I think the discussion is valid because of the trickle-down effect of realignment. Are we saying there is no room for Pac-12 expansion unless they poach Big-12, which today I think is far-fetched? I wouldn't go that far.

If Boise and SDSU are not on the top of their list, then who else?

Maybe I just have my Southern Miss glasses on, and am hoping.
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(12-05-2012 12:16 AM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  
(12-05-2012 12:02 AM)hardw0od Wrote:  I attended USC

Greetings from Orange County.

I lived in Laguna Nigel for a bit! I also lived in Huntington Beach in Orange County. I'm back in Miami now, but I miss Southern California!
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(12-05-2012 01:05 AM)billyoregon Wrote:  
(12-05-2012 12:02 AM)hardw0od Wrote:  
(12-04-2012 04:43 AM)JustAnotherName Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 04:56 PM)Niner National Wrote:  If they can suck up their academic pride like the ACC did with the Louisville addition, they'd get excellent adds for both basketball and football.

I'm not sure if there's anything more overrated than Pac 12 "academics."

Arizona - 120th
Arizona State - 139th
Oregon - 115th
Oregon State - 139th
Utah - 125th
Washington State - 125th
(San Diego State - 165th)
(Boise State - 62nd, Regional Universities - West)

That's 50% of the conference outside the top 114. That's the same ratio the SEC had prior to adding Missouri and Texas A&M.

Arkansas - 131st
Kentucky - 125th
Louisiana State - 134th
Mississippi - 151st
Mississippi State - 160th
South Carolina - 115th

* US News rankings



You left out all the California schools which are stellar. I attended USC and its academics are top notch. Stanford, Cal, and UCLA are among the best universities in the country.

The only real "great" academic schools in the SEC are Vanderbilt and Florida, and neither of those schools holds a candle to the schools in the PAC-12

I think your general point is valid........but I think Vanderbilt holds a large academic candle to any school in the Pac-12 except Stanford.

This is the C-USA forum, but I think the discussion is valid because of the trickle-down effect of realignment. Are we saying there is no room for Pac-12 expansion unless they poach Big-12, which today I think is far-fetched? I wouldn't go that far.

If Boise and SDSU are not on the top of their list, then who else?

Maybe I just have my Southern Miss glasses on, and am hoping.



I'm sure that they don't want Boise. SDSU may join and I don't have any qualms. I'm sure that Utah will push for BYU. I know when the Big 12 was about to collapse there was talk of Texas joining the Pac-12, but that won't happen now. Whoever comes in next will have to be a reach as they will have no choice but to go further east to grab a school. I just don't see Boise joining the PAC-12. BYU and SDSU I can see those happening though.
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BYU is a denominational school. That would result in a big change in current Pac-12 standards too.
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(12-05-2012 01:14 AM)billyoregon Wrote:  BYU is a denominational school. That would result in a big change in current Pac-12 standards too.



You're right. I don't know really. I think they'd rather stay at 12 for the time being. SDSU would be stretching it as they don't have a large athletic budget and cannot compete with the other schools. BYU would make sense, but your point is valid.

Notre Dame would've made sense since they have natural rivals in the PAC-12, but they've moved on. It is really hard to the PAC-12 to expand as there are not many schools out west as there are on the eastern side of the country.

If you put a gun to my head and told me to name four schools, I would pick SDSU, Utah. St, Boise St., and BYU - but that's only if they're forced to go to 16, which in a few years they will be.
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The PAC-12 could've had Boise. St and they really didn't want them, hence why they are playing in the Big East. I also find it hilarious that the westernmost university in the contiguous U.S. ,SDSU, is playing the "Big East"
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I think the PAC is holding out for Texas, Oklahoma, Ok St & possibly Texas Tech to join the fold.
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