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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
I feel like every basketball thread involving EITHER Charlotte or ECU has become a train wreck.

I hate that for both of us. Would be nice to sensibly talk basketball...
11-25-2012 10:27 AM
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(11-25-2012 06:40 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Guilmette didn't play bad. (1) App State had Athletic 6-6 wings in the post and played uptempo and did a good job denying him the ball offense with their quickness. The guy above made excuses about matchups as your 6-10 guys not playing but we both know they aren't going to play much anyway. (2) It wasn't the greatest of match up for Guilmette, but he was still good enough he's on the court and played 20 minutes and had 4 points, 1 assist, 1 block, 1 steal, and 1 rebound. The rebounding numbers are the worst thing you could go after him on but a lot of that had to do with Sampson going berserk with 18 boards or he'd have probably had a few more. It certainly wasn't garbage and he contributed in other ways, even in a game that wasn't a good matchup for him.

1) So, uh, have you seen the players we primarily play in the post. They are 6'7", quick, and are very likely better than anyone App could dream of putting on the court. I'm glad you're admitting now that Guilmette is going to have a garbage game against Charlotte. We shut down a better center last year, and now we have 4 more post players to throw at him.

2) You mean that the other post players for ECU would have WORSE statistics than that garbage?


(11-25-2012 10:16 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  This thread and the ECU season thread will be fun once Charlotte loses to us 05-stirthepot 03-wink

So you're saying this thread will never be fun?
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
UNCG and App will only go up once they hit Conference play imho
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If this game is a defensive struggle, Charlotte will dominate. If it becomes a shoot out, ECU will dominate. That's about all there is to it.
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(11-25-2012 10:36 AM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  If this game is a defensive struggle, Charlotte will dominate. If it becomes a shoot out, ECU will dominate. That's about all there is to it.

yeah, ECU's 25% from behind the arc should be feared. Those DIII schools are known for their tenacious three point defense.
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(11-25-2012 10:36 AM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  If this game is a defensive struggle, Charlotte will dominate. If it becomes a shoot out, ECU will dominate. That's about all there is to it.

The truth is that it will be somewhere in between. Charlotte is not going to out athelete ECU, but ECU will not always get clean looks. I suspect that the difference will be in the guard play. If Charlotte cleans up their ball handling and don't make those careless turnovers like they did in Alaska then this game will come right to the end.
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(11-25-2012 10:47 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:36 AM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  If this game is a defensive struggle, Charlotte will dominate. If it becomes a shoot out, ECU will dominate. That's about all there is to it.

yeah, ECU's 25% from behind the arc should be feared. Those DIII schools are known for their tenacious three point defense.

He may have been basing his opinion off of the games that he has watched. Lots of shots were half way down and then spun out against Appy State and UNCG. IMO ECU's struggles at the 3 point line goes back to Paul's 2 game suspension. They practice and scrimmage with the guy every day and then when game time comes he is not there to get them their shots. When that happened they tried to do too much.
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(11-25-2012 10:52 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:47 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:36 AM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  If this game is a defensive struggle, Charlotte will dominate. If it becomes a shoot out, ECU will dominate. That's about all there is to it.

yeah, ECU's 25% from behind the arc should be feared. Those DIII schools are known for their tenacious three point defense.

He may have been basing his opinion off of the games that he has watched. Lots of shots were half way down and then spun out against Appy State and UNCG. IMO ECU's struggles at the 3 point line goes back to Paul's 2 game suspension. They practice and scrimmage with the guy every day and then when game time comes he is not there to get them their shots. When that happened they tried to do too much.

I remember Shamarr, I remember Akeem Richmond, I remember Miguel Paul, and I remember us recruiting PRC. I know you guys have a lineup in which all 5 guys can hit a 3. I know you guys haven't shot well as of yet, but I sure don't think you guys will be shooting 25% from 3 by the end of the year.
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(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 02:44 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

GO NINERS!

Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

http://kenpom.com/

Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.
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(11-25-2012 10:52 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:47 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:36 AM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  If this game is a defensive struggle, Charlotte will dominate. If it becomes a shoot out, ECU will dominate. That's about all there is to it.

yeah, ECU's 25% from behind the arc should be feared. Those DIII schools are known for their tenacious three point defense.

He may have been basing his opinion off of the games that he has watched. Lots of shots were half way down and then spun out against Appy State and UNCG. IMO ECU's struggles at the 3 point line goes back to Paul's 2 game suspension. They practice and scrimmage with the guy every day and then when game time comes he is not there to get them their shots. When that happened they tried to do too much.

I was just giving him a hard time and poking fun at ECU for sport. I'm well aware that you guys have players that can get hot at any time.
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(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 02:44 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

GO NINERS!

Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

http://kenpom.com/

Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

so in other words their pile of **** smells a little worse than our pule of ****?

At least we got a bronze turd statue with our schedule last night.
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(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 02:44 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

GO NINERS!

Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

http://kenpom.com/

Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.
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(11-25-2012 11:04 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 02:44 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

GO NINERS!

Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

http://kenpom.com/

Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-3, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, Apps one win compares to our 6?

Texas St RPI 204
App St RPI 312
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(11-25-2012 11:18 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:04 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 02:44 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

GO NINERS!

Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

http://kenpom.com/

Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-2, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, ECUs one DI win compares to our 6?

Charlotte could have played Texas State on Jupiter and the outcome would have been the same. Texas State was just 2-3 until they won last night against UC Riverside; which is also terrible. Texas State losses:

SMU (projected to finish 10 or 11th in CUSA and Pomeroy 190);
Loyola Maramount (Pomeroy 172) (they lost to SMU too); and
Charlotte.

Texas State's wins included a non D-1 team and Fordham (Pomeroy 243).

Then there was the eye test. I know you saw it too. They just looked like a terrible team. BTW, that is why I used the Pomeroy rather than the Realtime RPI; because as you can see at this early date the Realtime RPI doesn't actually reflect anything. SMU is rated at 15 in Realtime, but Memphis is rated at 270. Now do you really think that Memphis is the 270th best team in the Country?
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-25-2012 11:18 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:04 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 02:44 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

GO NINERS!

Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

http://kenpom.com/

Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-3, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, ECUs one DI win compares to our 6?

Texas St RPI 204
App St RPI 312

When did UNC-G drop down?

Oh, and with the schedule, we get it, it sucks. Guess what, we agree. There is nothing WE can do about. Why keep bringing it up, over and over and over again.

Oh, and you of all people should know RPI means nothing this early in the season.
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(11-25-2012 11:31 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:18 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:04 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

http://kenpom.com/

Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-2, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, ECUs one DI win compares to our 6?

Charlotte could have played Texas State on Jupiter and outcome would have been the same. Texas State loses:

SMU (projected to finish 10 or 11th in CUSA and Pomeroy 190);
Loyola Maramount (Pomeroy 172) (they lost to SMU too); and
Charlotte.

Texas State's wins included a non D-1 team and Fordham (Pomeroy 243).

Then there was the eye test. I know you saw it too. They just looked like a terrible team.

They also beat UC Riveride last night. I'll be the first to admit that is no giant task, but your argument is based on a fictitious matchup in which you are advocating that the team with 0 DI wins (not even close) would wipe the floor, or to quote you, "kill" a Texas st team who HAS won 3 games. Then based on this faulty assumption, somehow your team will run with us/ beat us (not sure which you are arguing for) because we "look" bad vs a team that "looks" bad.

And you can pretend that traveling 3000 miles to a place 5 time zones away does not affect game play all you want. That is simply not true. False. Why do you think all of these rankings factor in home or away. I can tell you from personal experience that just traveling to Las Vegas 3 time zones away takes a toll on your energy and sleep pattern.
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(11-25-2012 11:32 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
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(11-25-2012 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

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Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-3, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, ECUs one DI win compares to our 6?

Texas St RPI 204
App St RPI 312

When did UNC-G drop down?

Oh, and with the schedule, we get it, it sucks. Guess what, we agree. There is nothing WE can do about. Why keep bringing it up, over and over and over again.

Oh, and you of all people should know RPI means nothing this early in the season.

App st never played UNCG. I am not referring to ECUs schedule, my mistake. I mistyped. I am referring to Marv's statement that even though we are 6-0 we aren't that good because App (with 0 DI wins) would kill a 3-3 Texas St team that we beat by 9.
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(11-25-2012 11:44 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:31 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:18 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:04 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-2, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, ECUs one DI win compares to our 6?

Charlotte could have played Texas State on Jupiter and outcome would have been the same. Texas State loses:

SMU (projected to finish 10 or 11th in CUSA and Pomeroy 190);
Loyola Maramount (Pomeroy 172) (they lost to SMU too); and
Charlotte.

Texas State's wins included a non D-1 team and Fordham (Pomeroy 243).

Then there was the eye test. I know you saw it too. They just looked like a terrible team.

They also beat UC Riveride last night. I'll be the first to admit that is no giant task, but your argument is based on a fictitious matchup in which you are advocating that the team with 0 DI wins (not even close) would wipe the floor, or to quote you, "kill" a Texas st team who HAS won 3 games. Then based on this faulty assumption, somehow your team will run with us/ beat us (not sure which you are arguing for) because we "look" bad vs a team that "looks" bad.

And you can pretend that traveling 3000 miles to a place 5 time zones away does not affect game play all you want. That is simply not true. False. Why do you think all of these rankings factor in home or away. I can tell you from personal experience that just traveling to Las Vegas 3 time zones away takes a toll on your energy and sleep pattern.

You maybe over analyzing it. I am looking at the competition that ECU and Charlotte has played. It doesn't matter who or where Texas State plays, because when Texas State actually makes it to the game; they are going suck. Charlotte may have played poorly due to that jet lag, but Texas State was going to play poorly with or without it.
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(11-25-2012 11:51 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:44 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:31 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:18 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:04 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-2, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, ECUs one DI win compares to our 6?

Charlotte could have played Texas State on Jupiter and outcome would have been the same. Texas State loses:

SMU (projected to finish 10 or 11th in CUSA and Pomeroy 190);
Loyola Maramount (Pomeroy 172) (they lost to SMU too); and
Charlotte.

Texas State's wins included a non D-1 team and Fordham (Pomeroy 243).

Then there was the eye test. I know you saw it too. They just looked like a terrible team.

They also beat UC Riveride last night. I'll be the first to admit that is no giant task, but your argument is based on a fictitious matchup in which you are advocating that the team with 0 DI wins (not even close) would wipe the floor, or to quote you, "kill" a Texas st team who HAS won 3 games. Then based on this faulty assumption, somehow your team will run with us/ beat us (not sure which you are arguing for) because we "look" bad vs a team that "looks" bad.

And you can pretend that traveling 3000 miles to a place 5 time zones away does not affect game play all you want. That is simply not true. False. Why do you think all of these rankings factor in home or away. I can tell you from personal experience that just traveling to Las Vegas 3 time zones away takes a toll on your energy and sleep pattern.

You maybe over analyzing it. I am looking at the competition that ECU and Charlotte has played. It doesn't matter who or where Texas State plays, because when Texas State actually makes it to the game; they are going suck. Charlotte may have played poorly due to that jet lag, but Texas State was going to play poorly with or without it.

Sorry but competition is apples to oranges. We won a preseason tournament to get To our win total. That means those teams beat other DI teams to play us and lose.
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(11-25-2012 11:49 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:32 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:18 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 11:04 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-25-2012 10:57 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Really? No one is saying we have an awesome schedule. Just saying that your schedule is awful. You've played 2 DIII schools, ASU which is worse than any team we've played this year, and UNCG which falls about in the middle of the level of competition we've been playing. We don't have a good schedule right now but yours is much worse.

I don't disagree with your comments about ECU's schedule, however Appy would kill Texas State. Let's be honest. Texas State sucked. Hell NJIT would put a whooping on Texas State.

Please at least research before you post. Texas state is 3-3, App state is 1-4 with no DI wins. I see no scenario where App "kills" Texas State. App state has not even lost a DI game by less than double digits. Texas state on the other hand, just won a DI came by double digits.

I'm not sure what point you are making but I assume it is that you beat App, who would "kill" Texas St,who we beat by 9 after being jetlagged and playing them jn the middle of the night in Alaska. Therefore, somehow, ECUs one DI win compares to our 6?

Texas St RPI 204
App St RPI 312

When did UNC-G drop down?

Oh, and with the schedule, we get it, it sucks. Guess what, we agree. There is nothing WE can do about. Why keep bringing it up, over and over and over again.

Oh, and you of all people should know RPI means nothing this early in the season.

App st never played UNCG. I am not referring to ECUs schedule, my mistake. I mistyped. I am referring to Marv's statement that even though we are 6-0 we aren't that good because App (with 0 DI wins) would kill a 3-3 Texas St team that we beat by 9.

I based my statement upon the eye ball test and who they lost to. BTW, I saw the Appy State v. VT game the other day on ESPN3; because I wanted to get a true idea of where ECU is right now in relation to programs in their region. VT is 5-0 in the ACC and they have 2 shared common opponents with ECU (Appy and UNCG). The scores that VT posted over those two teams is near to the score that ECU posted against those some teams (take away that long crazy 3 by Simpson in the UNCG game). Not surprisingly to me, Pomeroy has VT at 80, which is the neighborhood that I think that ECU and Charlotte will be living in around the end of the year.
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