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I've gotta believe Madison has atleast left the door open in the minds of the Sunbelt. My money is on App St & Ga So and stopping. I think they're both ready, are regionally sensible, and are among the best FCS. And the Sun Belt has been in no hurry in adding members so I doubt they expand at this point. I'm not sure if JMU would really accept an offer from the Sunbelt. I'm not sure if we would have. A big reason being money. We're certainly counting on TV money on helping finance some of the increased costs of moving to FBS. I thin they beleive the extra costs to be about 3M more, of which 1M was to come from the TV contract w/ C-USA. In the Sun Belt it would be pretty much nothing I think (similar to what the CAA currently has). Atleast you're in the conversation:

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I'd like to see JMU in the MAC, they have potential to be one of the stronger MAC teams. And they have fan support. Plus it exposes a new area to the MAC. But what do I know?
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The MAC would be a good conference no doubt. Basketball would be good in tgat league as well.

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Miami Oh has long been considered our closest school from a "peer" perspective. Not geographically but in it's make up- Academics, size etc. We would fit okay in the MAC, but I would prefer it as football only. Don;t know if that would be allowed
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i've heard that Miami and Ohio University are the two mac schools closest to jmu in make up. both are also considered decent party schools from what i've heard.

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Miami is 89th (tied with Auburn and Binghamton)
Ohio 131st (tied with Seton Hall and Albany) in the national university rankings. 5 spots ahead of 139th ranked George Mason, for comparative purposes. I don't know if that helps to compliment them, I guess Mason has come a long way? haha

I would imagine JMU would fall between 90 and 120 if we were to become a national university.
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More Sunbelt rumors coming up. Still not sure how I feel about it, but I will say one thing. It gets us in the door at a minimal price. $300,000 entrance fee, and no exit fee outside of forfeiting conference revenue. If we moved up, I'm hoping it would be a stepping stone to the MAC personally.
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If we go Sunbelt, I hope it is only for football. MAC would be nice as well.
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Honestly, y'all should take a Sun Belt invite if it comes up. There's no guarantee that the MAC is going to expand, and if UMass leaves that door probably shuts (better for them to hold steady than add two unless the two can demonstrably move the needle). Maybe Troy and La.-Monroe aren't the sexiest schools with whom you could be linked, but I'd still take that over what the CAA is becoming -- whatever that is. And if Ga. Southern and App St. come along, well, there's worse fates.

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I'd wait for the dust to settle, but if I had to pick today, I'd go MAC over Sunbelt.
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Yeah, I never understood the snobishness over certain conferences. I realize the SBC isn't exactly the better basketball conference, but if you are going for FBS and that is the only offer, then you have to take it. It's not like it is going to be forever. Something tells me that once we go, that eventually there will be an ECC forming that will include JMU, ODU and so on.
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I was looking at realtimerpi.com for conference RPI this year. So far this year in basketball the SBC is at #15, while the CAA is at #24-obviously these change each year. On the WBB side the SBC is ranked at #13, while JMU is ranked at #14. In football, different division obviously, the SBC was ranked at #11, while the CAA was ranked at #13. So in reality, it would be a slight upgrade.
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I'd guess Sun Belt men's and women's basketball will be hurt a good bit by Middle Tennessee and Western Kentucky leaving. The other departing schools aren't irreplaceable. That said, the SBC will still be better in both than the CAA by a good margin, particularly once Delle Donne is Delle done at Delle Ware.

Both conferences won't change positions dramatically in football. The Sun Belt will again miss MTSU and WKU, and to a degree North Texas, but the Florida schools haven't done much, and four of the five confirmed/rumored incoming teams have more than respectable football histories at the FCS level. The CAA will miss ODU and JMU, but Albany and Stony Brook will at least keep the ship afloat.

So yeah, definitely be OK with a Sun Belt home for a while. You'll have opportunities to develop home-and-home relationships with Miami and Ohio U, and you'll get out of a CAA that may resemble a Krispy Kreme in a few years -- empty calories north and south with nothing in the middle. You want no part of a CAA that doesn't include VCU, ODU, Mason and Delaware, and that's a distinct possibility.
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(02-28-2013 03:51 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Honestly, y'all should take a Sun Belt invite if it comes up. There's no guarantee that the MAC is going to expand, and if UMass leaves that door probably shuts (better for them to hold steady than add two unless the two can demonstrably move the needle). Maybe Troy and La.-Monroe aren't the sexiest schools with whom you could be linked, but I'd still take that over what the CAA is becoming -- whatever that is. And if Ga. Southern and App St. come along, well, there's worse fates.

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you're preaching to the choir for most of us posters over here. it's most of the people on caazone that think we should be in the acc or else.

it's a foot in the door, look at it that way. new sbc attendance is higher than new cusa attendance too, but not by much. they just need to knock off some bcs teams more often and get ranked and the public perception can change.

if they add jmu, app state and ga southern, the sbc just got better competitively. most of the programs have decent fan bases, especially when you compare them to CAA/FCS teams, even more than the MAC.
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(02-28-2013 05:15 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  
(02-28-2013 03:51 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Honestly, y'all should take a Sun Belt invite if it comes up. There's no guarantee that the MAC is going to expand, and if UMass leaves that door probably shuts (better for them to hold steady than add two unless the two can demonstrably move the needle). Maybe Troy and La.-Monroe aren't the sexiest schools with whom you could be linked, but I'd still take that over what the CAA is becoming -- whatever that is. And if Ga. Southern and App St. come along, well, there's worse fates.

Better to get a smaller plate at the adults' table than the biggest plate at the kids' table.
you're preaching to the choir for most of us posters over here. it's most of the people on caazone that think we should be in the acc or else.

it's a foot in the door, look at it that way. new sbc attendance is higher than new cusa attendance too, but not by much. they just need to knock off some bcs teams more often and get ranked and the public perception can change.

if they add jmu, app state and ga southern, the sbc just got better competitively. most of the programs have decent fan bases, especially when you compare them to CAA/FCS teams, even more than the MAC.

And to further that point, if the football divisions on the Sun Belt board shake out as advertised, you'd be with App, GaSo, fake GSU, SoAl and Troy. That's not the most horrible annual schedule in the world. Plus with four dates you can get a MAC opponent or two, a regional rival like ODU, a game at a bigger school and a tomato can at home that doesn't rhyme with Paint Dances.
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Not the worst for sure and definitely better than the CAA as a whole. I would love to be in a conference with ODU/Marshall/UNCC, but I guess that ship has sailed to a point until things decide to explode and reshaping happens again.
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Besides, App State would be a huge huge rivalry game. Then bring UVA or VT to town, including ODU, makes for some fun football.
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(02-28-2013 05:49 PM)jmufan Wrote:  Besides, App State would be a huge huge rivalry game. Then bring UVA or VT to town, including ODU, makes for some fun football.

I'd be good with something like this! Couple of decent away games for travelling and yea, an annual Appy State game would be great.
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With the C7 adding 4 A10 schools makes me think this is really bad news for the CAA. If I were JMU and UD, I would be moving STAT! Dave Taylor had some interesting comments tonight about ODU and not playing them. Some of his comments were alluding to conference realignment such as if and when we end up in the same conference in the near future. While other comments were certainly comments you would expect to hear. I feel like there is something in the air.
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jmu is mentioned along with gmu as potential a10 candidates from the caa, in a usa today article. it seems like the writer speculating.
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(02-28-2013 11:10 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  jmu is mentioned along with gmu as potential a10 candidates from the caa, in a usa today article. it seems like the writer speculating.

I would think it's just speculation, I mean, our bball hasn't been all that good. How about that idea though? Move all sports to A10 and find a home for football in an FBS conference?
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