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(04-12-2018 04:48 PM)dsquare Wrote:  https://fansided.com/2018/03/27/acc-netw...sing-tide/

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Comcast dropping Big Ten Network in non-Big Ten states
If you have Comcast in a non-Big Ten state, you won’t have BTN.
 
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(04-12-2018 08:03 PM)KCat Wrote:  
(04-12-2018 04:48 PM)dsquare Wrote:  https://fansided.com/2018/03/27/acc-netw...sing-tide/

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Comcast dropping Big Ten Network in non-Big Ten states
If you have Comcast in a non-Big Ten state, you won’t have BTN.

This may be the first shot fired in a cord cutting war that eventually walks back conference cable networks in terms of national distribution that only draw regional viewership.

Ask B10 fans what they thought of having the basketball tournament in NY this year. Oh, and they've certainly never been enamored with Rutgers, which was added to gain the NYC market they now stand to lose.

This, along with recently reported issues with the startup of the ACC network, may signal change that will alter the conference landscape yet again.
 
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RE: All Things Realignment
(04-13-2018 07:20 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(04-12-2018 08:03 PM)KCat Wrote:  
(04-12-2018 04:48 PM)dsquare Wrote:  https://fansided.com/2018/03/27/acc-netw...sing-tide/

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Comcast dropping Big Ten Network in non-Big Ten states
If you have Comcast in a non-Big Ten state, you won’t have BTN.

This may be the first shot fired in a cord cutting war that eventually walks back conference cable networks in terms of national distribution that only draw regional viewership.

Ask B10 fans what they thought of having the basketball tournament in NY this year. Oh, and they've certainly never been enamored with Rutgers, which was added to gain the NYC market they now stand to lose.

This, along with recently reported issues with the startup of the ACC network, may signal change that will alter the conference landscape yet again.

Nah...the Big Ten has already monetized online streaming and other means (the entire network is on Hulu and Roku). This won't hit them at all, they'll still get theirs.

The Big Ten Network stuff is a non-story,but the fact that the ACC Network is basically DOA (while something we all already knew would happen) is big news nationally.
 
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RE: All Things Realignment
(04-13-2018 07:20 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(04-12-2018 08:03 PM)KCat Wrote:  
(04-12-2018 04:48 PM)dsquare Wrote:  https://fansided.com/2018/03/27/acc-netw...sing-tide/

============================================

Comcast dropping Big Ten Network in non-Big Ten states
If you have Comcast in a non-Big Ten state, you won’t have BTN.

This may be the first shot fired in a cord cutting war that eventually walks back conference cable networks in terms of national distribution that only draw regional viewership.

Ask B10 fans what they thought of having the basketball tournament in NY this year. Oh, and they've certainly never been enamored with Rutgers, which was added to gain the NYC market they now stand to lose.

This, along with recently reported issues with the startup of the ACC network, may signal change that will alter the conference landscape yet again.

Problem for those wanting to see the BTN decline is that B10 schools have a huge alumni presence on the West Coast. The San Francisco paper used to have a section of recaps for every Big Ten game in the Sunday paper. Only the PAC also got this treatment. How many care about sports? How many care about sports enough to switch cable companies or go to a streaming service that offers the BTN? I don't know, and I'm sure Comcast has had their number crunchers work through all this, but it's not going to be a clean divorce that only hurts the B10 schools.
 
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If B10 isn't being offered out of B10 states... does that mean that Rutgers is only being broadcasted in NJ? Because that would essentially nullify any positive impact of inviting Rutgers to the B10.
 
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Wow, what a dead weight Rutgers is for the B1G... wonder if they would have been better off with Syracuse to keep the NYC market? Hopefully this is the final straw for Rutgers. Come back home Rutgers!
 
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I think this could be the beginning of the end of the Conference networks. This was a losing model and providers know they got a raw deal. Once Amazon and Hulu figure this thing out in a couple years Comcast and TWC are toast.
 
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(04-13-2018 04:23 PM)jarr Wrote:  I think this could be the beginning of the end of the Conference networks. This was a losing model and providers know they got a raw deal. Once Amazon and Hulu figure this thing out in a couple years Comcast and TWC are toast.

TWC is now Spectrum. Try being correct.
 
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(04-13-2018 04:01 PM)jarr Wrote:  Wow, what a dead weight Rutgers is for the B1G... wonder if they would have been better off with Syracuse to keep the NYC market? Hopefully this is the final straw for Rutgers. Come back home Rutgers!

You do realize that the conference Rutgers once belonged to no longer exists, right???

The other thing that I think some are missing here is that just because Rutgers is the only Big Ten team in the NY/NJ area, that doesn't mean that ***only*** Rutgers is getting played in that market. The B10 Network is carried in NYC and that means Iowa, Minnesota, etc...are all getting exposure in that market, and Rutgers is getting exposure in Chicago and Minneapolis. Not to mention the sheer number of Penn State fans/alumni in the NYC area.

Look... Rutgers and Maryland were invited expressly FOR THIS REASON. Rutgers brings the NYC market and Maryland brings in the Baltimore and Metro DC areas. Even if Comcast is really dropping the B10 Network from "non member states" the B10 Network will still be in the NYC and Metro DC markets...which are huge. Not to mention the simple fix of the B10 Network moving to a "subscriber" format in the dropped markets which will still bring massive viewership in places like Florida (where a lot of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and NY/NJ folks winter) and Arizona and Texas (where a lot of Nebraska and Minnesota folks winter).

And even if...even if the B10 Network dies out in 5 years, then the B10 still enriched their coffers by the 10 year run the B10 Network has brought them.
 
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Gorden "Geek" foresees realignment

Hilarious.

How this idiot was given the reins at Brown and Vandy I will never know. tO$U and WVU on the other hand...
 
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I like the hillbilly at the bottom's comment about how the sec and acc now wish they had wv. That must me the dude of west virginia.
 
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(05-27-2018 04:47 PM)dsquare Wrote:  I like the hillbilly at the bottom's comment about how the sec and acc now wish they had wv. That must me the dude of west virginia.

Do you think it is the great academics? LMAO!
 
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(05-27-2018 04:47 PM)dsquare Wrote:  I like the hillbilly at the bottom's comment about how the sec and acc now wish they had wv. That must me the dude of west virginia.
Or the culture of Morgantown?
 
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(05-27-2018 03:22 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote:  Gorden "Geek" foresees realignment

Hilarious.

How this idiot was given the reins at Brown and Vandy I will never know. tO$U and WVU on the other hand...

Any of us who have followed realignment closely could have provided as much insight as Gee. Of course realignment will happen again--it's been a continuous process with conferences, punctuated by brief pauses along the way. And of course TV deals will likely be the catalyst.

As of 2018, the next critical gateway for UC will be an improved TV deal with the American, especially if this will remain the Bearcats' conference home until the next wave hits.
 
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(05-27-2018 03:22 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote:  Gorden "Geek" foresees realignment

Hilarious.

How this idiot was given the reins at Brown and Vandy I will never know. tO$U and WVU on the other hand...

Gordon Gee looks like a run-of-the-mill ventriloquist dummy from a 1950's television show. When his gums flap, you can hear two blocks of wood banging together.
 
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a post i just made got me to thinking that i'd let you in my conference realignment scheme. to compete with the power conferences you have got have the absolute best teams. now i don't go to games, watch or listen to games, save my bearcats of course. i just happen to possess an overall familiarity with what it takes to succeed in life

football

temple
navy
uc
south florida
central florida
memphis
smu
houston
byu
boise
san diego st
colorado st

basketball

uconn
temple
uc
memphis
houston
smu
wichita
gonzaga
new mexico
byu
unlv
san diego st

some thoughts. i'd offer uconn football inclusion at the sake of colorado state if that was a condition they bargained hard for. don't wanna lose uconn hoops. those women are astounding. temple, uc, memphis, smu, houston, byu, san diego state appear to be the only common denominators. but that's a f*ckin' core. the rock. they might not be the best teams in the league but the could end up being with some better competition. f*ck your olympic sports. no one understands what happens in omaha. cool, but too niche. not important. i wasn't oblivious to regionality. it's immensely important and always will be. gonzaga gets shafted a bit, but they'll be making all that damn money. if gonzaga gets slightly better players, they win the championship a few times a decade.

i'll settle for water down big 12 though. i'll drink that sh!t. i'm fine with this conference too. whatever
 
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(06-14-2018 06:06 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote:  PAC-12 panics with dropping revenue while the Big 12 rakes it in! Gordy Geek loves it!

This has the potential to continue a disturbing trend in realignment: destroying historic rivalries. If the Big 12 becomes the hunter and the Pac 12 the hunted, it may pull a couple of bricks out of the foundation of that western conference rich in national championships in football and basketball and steeped in rivalries west of the Rockies. I'm sure USC or Arizona fans would be excited to visit Iowa State or Kansas State in November.

In an ideal scenario, the top dozen G5 schools roll in with the P5 and get divided regionally to optimize travel costs and create accessible rivalry games. I never say never, but this comes about as close to that as any scenario I can imagine. So the weak brethren in the B10 or SEC will continue to ride the gravy train.
 
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(06-15-2018 12:41 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(06-14-2018 06:06 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote:  PAC-12 panics with dropping revenue while the Big 12 rakes it in! Gordy Geek loves it!

This has the potential to continue a disturbing trend in realignment: destroying historic rivalries. If the Big 12 becomes the hunter and the Pac 12 the hunted, it may pull a couple of bricks out of the foundation of that western conference rich in national championships in football and basketball and steeped in rivalries west of the Rockies. I'm sure USC or Arizona fans would be excited to visit Iowa State or Kansas State in November.

In an ideal scenario, the top dozen G5 schools roll in with the P5 and get divided regionally to optimize travel costs and create accessible rivalry games. I never say never, but this comes about as close to that as any scenario I can imagine. So the weak brethren in the B10 or SEC will continue to ride the gravy train.

The P5 shed the weak sisters into the G5 and split the bigger pot.

Follow the $$.
 
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(06-15-2018 06:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(06-15-2018 12:41 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(06-14-2018 06:06 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote:  PAC-12 panics with dropping revenue while the Big 12 rakes it in! Gordy Geek loves it!

This has the potential to continue a disturbing trend in realignment: destroying historic rivalries. If the Big 12 becomes the hunter and the Pac 12 the hunted, it may pull a couple of bricks out of the foundation of that western conference rich in national championships in football and basketball and steeped in rivalries west of the Rockies. I'm sure USC or Arizona fans would be excited to visit Iowa State or Kansas State in November.

In an ideal scenario, the top dozen G5 schools roll in with the P5 and get divided regionally to optimize travel costs and create accessible rivalry games. I never say never, but this comes about as close to that as any scenario I can imagine. So the weak brethren in the B10 or SEC will continue to ride the gravy train.

The P5 shed the weak sisters into the G5 and split the bigger pot.

Follow the $$.
USC, Texas, OSU, ND, Ok and a few other blue bloods break off and negotiate their Tier 1 contracts together. Independent, but play in a "league" among themselves. Don't have to share with the ISU's and Wash St of the world. They will prob stay for all other sports if they can. I have heard rumblings of this, but I have no idea how feasible it is. Everyone is in an escalated arms race, and none of the blue bloods want to be left behind in revenue. Imagine USC getting less money than Purdue or Vandy!? B10 resurgence is all about the money they can dump into facilities and coaches.
 
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