....... and this why it doesn't matter if Mittens won. The RINOs like big government too.... they'd just prefer to be the architects of it.

http://news.yahoo.com/top-republican-law...50705.html

I nominate this for dumbest post election thread title.

D'OH! While you are correct about RINOS loving big government, there was no possibility of them even attempting to repeal O-Care without taking at least the Senate. This was a dumb question - what was Boner supposed to say?

"Yeah, we'll waste a lot more time and energy tilting at more windmills."

While libs are spiking the football and doing their victory dance and loudly proclaiming "We WON," I say, just wait until you fully realize what you have won......... I don't think that it will even take 4 years for it to sink in.

(11-09-2012 05:55 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and this why it doesn't matter if Mittens won. The RINOs like big government too.... they'd just prefer to be the architects of it.

http://news.yahoo.com/top-republican-law...50705.html

This response boggles my mind. Exactly how, with only a majority in the House, and already losing a case against it in the Supreme Court, did you expect them to repeal it? Why waste time passing bills that won't go anywhere in the Senate? Why not spend time and energy to actually do things? For all the bitching I hear about not having a budget, the House has the power of the purse, and it's up to them to pass a budget that can get signed into law. Does that mean capitulate? No, but it does mean work in a productive way and not just lay on the floor and cry like your Honey f'n Boo Boo.

(11-09-2012 05:55 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and this why it doesn't matter if Mittens won. The RINOs like big government too.... they'd just prefer to be the architects of it.

http://news.yahoo.com/top-republican-law...50705.html

It is impossible to repeal. The socialists have the Senate and White House.

Democrats spent YEARS (decades?) voting on repeals of Taft-Hartley Act after it was passed over Truman's veto. They did it -- if for no other reason -- because most Democrats hated that law and wanted to be rid of it.

Boehner is making a big political mistake if he doesn't hold a vote on the floor of the House to repeal ObamaCare.

(11-09-2012 06:15 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 05:55 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and this why it doesn't matter if Mittens won. The RINOs like big government too.... they'd just prefer to be the architects of it.

http://news.yahoo.com/top-republican-law...50705.html

This response boggles my mind. Exactly how, with only a majority in the House, and already losing a case against it in the Supreme Court, did you expect them to repeal it? Why waste time passing bills that won't go anywhere in the Senate? Why not spend time and energy to actually do things? For all the bitching I hear about not having a budget, the House has the power of the purse, and it's up to them to pass a budget that can get signed into law. Does that mean capitulate? No, but it does mean work in a productive way and not just lay on the floor and cry like your Honey f'n Boo Boo.

So if Republicans say they won't pass a tax increase under any circumstances, you will be outraged over Democrats trying to anyways?

(11-09-2012 06:51 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  So if Republicans say they won't pass a tax increase under any circumstances, you will be outraged over Democrats trying to anyways?

Exactly.

I don't give a damn if it won't make it through the Senate or it will be vetoed. You pass the repeal in the House ... keep the issue in the public's mind .... and force Democrats in moderate or conservative districts to go on the record for being for or against the law.

If you're not going to even try to fight big government ... GTFO of Washington.

I'd encourage Republicans to do nothing else for the next 4 years.

(11-09-2012 06:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 06:51 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  So if Republicans say they won't pass a tax increase under any circumstances, you will be outraged over Democrats trying to anyways?

Exactly.

I don't give a damn if it won't make it through the Senate or it will be vetoed. You pass the repeal in the House ... keep the issue in the public's mind .... and force Democrats in moderate or conservative districts to go on the record for being for or against the law.

If you're not going to even try to fight big government ... GTFO of Washington.

See my post The number Republicans CANNOT overcome. The era of big gubment is here. Until the economy completely collapses tax and deficit spend are here to stay. I say let the democrats have what they want when it fails we'll get Change I Hope. Fight it and look like the cause of the economic collapse when the fiscal cliff occurs.

(11-09-2012 06:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 06:51 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  So if Republicans say they won't pass a tax increase under any circumstances, you will be outraged over Democrats trying to anyways?

Exactly.

I don't give a damn if it won't make it through the Senate or it will be vetoed. You pass the repeal in the House ... keep the issue in the public's mind .... and force Democrats in moderate or conservative districts to go on the record for being for or against the law.

If you're not going to even try to fight big government ... GTFO of Washington.

Um, they did, and they got re-elected. Forgot Tuesday already?

As of July 11, the House had voted either 31 or 33 times to repeal Obamacare. I trust you can see the actual accomplishment of such a waste of time.

Exactly what would the point of continuing that be after having lost seats in the Senate and failing to take the White House?

(11-09-2012 09:52 PM)bronconick Wrote:  As of July 11, the House had voted either 31 or 33 times to repeal Obamacare. I trust you can see the actual accomplishment of such a waste of time.

Exactly what would the point of continuing that be after having lost seats in the Senate and failing to take the White House?

The US Senate and the US House and (I would guess) every legislative and/or parliamentary body in the world takes votes whose only "point" is symbolic or political. Boehner is going to do whatever he's going to do. But if he does not put ObamaCare up for a vote on the floor of the House, he will be demoralizing and discouraging everyone who voted against Obama and his congressional allies. Which (of course) is precisely why Obama and his supporters DON'T want such a vote to occur.

The way he keeps talking and then walking back things 12 hours later, I'm half wondering if the Republicans aren't going to replace him anyway.

Symbolism or no, 30+ votes on anything is stupid. Clearly too much time on their hands. Maybe we could cut their salaries in half and have them meet once every three months for a couple weeks or something. Nothing gets done until the last second after 2-3 continuing votes anyway.

(11-09-2012 08:18 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Um, they did, and they got re-elected. Forgot Tuesday already?

I'd say you did. You made no gains in a US House where you're DEEPLY behind. Slight gains in the Senate were all a product of moral majority tards hiding behind the Tea Party label going down in flames. And new Democrats like Manchin running at full speed away from Obama, and in fact even campaigning as being somebody to OPPOSE Obama.

(11-09-2012 09:52 PM)bronconick Wrote:  As of July 11, the House had voted either 31 or 33 times to repeal Obamacare. I trust you can see the actual accomplishment of such a waste of time.

Exactly what would the point of continuing that be after having lost seats in the Senate and failing to take the White House?

They got re-elected. Apparently people want Obamacare repealed.

Yep

Barely. Look at Bachmann, she outspent a nobody 10 to 1 and still squeaked by.

(11-10-2012 03:30 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Barely. Look at Bachmann, she outspent a nobody 10 to 1 and still squeaked by.

What did I say about moral majority tards hiding behind the Tea Party label?

He got right back in line after he said this. He will try to repeal Obamacare. Guess he doesn't care.

(11-09-2012 11:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 08:18 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Um, they did, and they got re-elected. Forgot Tuesday already?

I'd say you did. You made no gains in a US House where you're DEEPLY behind. Slight gains in the Senate were all a product of moral majority tards hiding behind the Tea Party label going down in flames. And new Democrats like Manchin running at full speed away from Obama, and in fact even campaigning as being somebody to OPPOSE Obama.

If you combine the total votes for Republican house candidates and do the same for Democratic house candidates, the Democrats received more votes. Republicans maintained the House because of gerrymandering and the fact that more state-level legislatures are in the hands of Republicans.

At any rate, one and a half branches of the two branches that make laws are in the hands of the Democrats. Why act like a bunch of ass holes and just constantly cry like little children in the floor instead of acting like adults, sitting down at the table, and discussing and working together to do something constructive?