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(12-19-2018 01:46 PM)odu09 Wrote:  
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(12-19-2018 12:55 PM)odu09 Wrote:  I would be all for it, but it sounds like there's a lot of hurdles to clear still. It needs to be determined that it's old Indian grounds... that seems difficult. The ex-chief called it a longshot. I would think this thing is far from certain.

The whole area is old indian grounds.
Historical irony. In the early 1600's Powhatan's soothsayers and magicians told him to beware of enemies coming from the East. Powhatan sent his army to completely decimate the Chesapeake Indians (to his East). A few years later English landed in VABCH and then moved up to Jamestown.

I guess I wasn't specific in my post. Don't they need to determine it's Pamunkey Tribe's grounds?

I seriously doubt they overlooked that major point. Do you really think they would be ready to spend all that money if they didnt think that they could prove they are ancestral lands?
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(12-19-2018 01:48 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:46 PM)odu09 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:04 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 12:55 PM)odu09 Wrote:  I would be all for it, but it sounds like there's a lot of hurdles to clear still. It needs to be determined that it's old Indian grounds... that seems difficult. The ex-chief called it a longshot. I would think this thing is far from certain.

The whole area is old indian grounds.
Historical irony. In the early 1600's Powhatan's soothsayers and magicians told him to beware of enemies coming from the East. Powhatan sent his army to completely decimate the Chesapeake Indians (to his East). A few years later English landed in VABCH and then moved up to Jamestown.

I guess I wasn't specific in my post. Don't they need to determine it's Pamunkey Tribe's grounds?

I seriously doubt they overlooked that major point. Do you really think they would be ready to spend all that money if they didnt think that they could prove they are ancestral lands?

I also wouldn't take the ex-chief's word for it. He's not involved and may have some axe's to grind.
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(12-19-2018 02:01 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:48 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:46 PM)odu09 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:04 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 12:55 PM)odu09 Wrote:  I would be all for it, but it sounds like there's a lot of hurdles to clear still. It needs to be determined that it's old Indian grounds... that seems difficult. The ex-chief called it a longshot. I would think this thing is far from certain.

The whole area is old indian grounds.
Historical irony. In the early 1600's Powhatan's soothsayers and magicians told him to beware of enemies coming from the East. Powhatan sent his army to completely decimate the Chesapeake Indians (to his East). A few years later English landed in VABCH and then moved up to Jamestown.

I guess I wasn't specific in my post. Don't they need to determine it's Pamunkey Tribe's grounds?

I seriously doubt they overlooked that major point. Do you really think they would be ready to spend all that money if they didnt think that they could prove they are ancestral lands?

I also wouldn't take the ex-chief's word for it. He's not involved and may have some axe's to grind.

Interesting. Still seems like it would be hard to prove it belonged to a particular tribe, I'm mostly curious how that's done. Not trying to nay-say. I think it would be awesome to have. Just seems more difficult than it looks on the surface.
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For those interested, they keep adding more information to the original article as they get it.
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(12-19-2018 02:51 PM)odu09 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 02:01 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:48 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:46 PM)odu09 Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 01:04 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  The whole area is old indian grounds.
Historical irony. In the early 1600's Powhatan's soothsayers and magicians told him to beware of enemies coming from the East. Powhatan sent his army to completely decimate the Chesapeake Indians (to his East). A few years later English landed in VABCH and then moved up to Jamestown.

I guess I wasn't specific in my post. Don't they need to determine it's Pamunkey Tribe's grounds?

I seriously doubt they overlooked that major point. Do you really think they would be ready to spend all that money if they didnt think that they could prove they are ancestral lands?

I also wouldn't take the ex-chief's word for it. He's not involved and may have some axe's to grind.

Interesting. Still seems like it would be hard to prove it belonged to a particular tribe, I'm mostly curious how that's done. Not trying to nay-say. I think it would be awesome to have. Just seems more difficult than it looks on the surface.

You raise a good point. I have no idea how they can even begin to prove what may or may not be Pamunkey land.
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New apartment development proposed in December on 38th Street, opposite The Next at ODU. City Planning recommendation on January 11th;
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095738-2.png]
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095752-2.png]

https://goo.gl/AwbVUX
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(01-02-2019 10:02 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  New apartment development proposed in December on 38th Street, opposite The Next at ODU. City Planning recommendation on January 11th;
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095738-2.png]
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095752-2.png]

https://goo.gl/AwbVUX

Its a step up. Though Id rather see townhouses, this is still a nice improvement. I like what was done with Bolling Square. I wish more developers would follow that style. Its much more timeless, classy, and feels more "neighborhoody".
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Great news for Hampton Blvd. Much needed and getting rid of crappy properties.
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(01-02-2019 10:08 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 10:02 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  New apartment development proposed in December on 38th Street, opposite The Next at ODU. City Planning recommendation on January 11th;
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095738-2.png]
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095752-2.png]

https://goo.gl/AwbVUX

Its a step up. Though Id rather see townhouses, this is still a nice improvement. I like what was done with Bolling Square. I wish more developers would follow that style. Its much more timeless, classy, and feels more "neighborhoody".

You aren't going to be getting upscale townhomes like Bolling Square on this block of 38th Street any time in the near future. These apartments are probably a best case scenario.
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(01-02-2019 10:08 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 10:02 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  New apartment development proposed in December on 38th Street, opposite The Next at ODU. City Planning recommendation on January 11th;
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095738-2.png]
[Image: Screenshot-20190102-095752-2.png]

https://goo.gl/AwbVUX

Its a step up. Though Id rather see townhouses, this is still a nice improvement. I like what was done with Bolling Square. I wish more developers would follow that style. Its much more timeless, classy, and feels more "neighborhoody".

Yeah, but this feels more city-y. This has good density so hopefully it can spur on more development around it. I also don't see students (which I have to imagine is a big market these guys are going after) renting out townhouses.
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Does anyone know how "The District" is doing these days? I know it opened to much fanfare and then got some terrible press. Has it rebounded and become desirable again? This looks similar to me.
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(01-02-2019 11:46 AM)monarx Wrote:  Does anyone know how "The District" is doing these days? I know it opened to much fanfare and then got some terrible press. Has it rebounded and become desirable again? This looks similar to me.

The change of ownership was good one.
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Haven't heard any issues with the district in a long time
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(01-02-2019 12:17 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  Haven't heard any issues with the district in a long time

Did the school ever start referring students there again?
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Next Tuesday, the city will vote on permanently closing part of Bluestone Ave.
https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/article...27fa74a7e6
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(01-07-2019 02:25 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Next Tuesday, the city will vote on permanently closing part of Bluestone Ave.
https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/article...27fa74a7e6

After looking at the application, it appears 13newsnow is being a tad misleading. The road will remain open, it will just be narrowed;
https://www.norfolk.gov/AgendaCenter/Vie...ileID=9353
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(01-07-2019 02:45 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 02:25 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Next Tuesday, the city will vote on permanently closing part of Bluestone Ave.
https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/article...27fa74a7e6

After looking at the application, it appears 13newsnow is being a tad misleading. The road will remain open, it will just be narrowed;
https://www.norfolk.gov/AgendaCenter/Vie...ileID=9353

Referring to Bluestone Ave. as a "major" roadway is a bit of a stretch too!
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(01-07-2019 02:53 PM)MONARCHSWIN Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 02:45 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 02:25 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Next Tuesday, the city will vote on permanently closing part of Bluestone Ave.
https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/article...27fa74a7e6

After looking at the application, it appears 13newsnow is being a tad misleading. The road will remain open, it will just be narrowed;
https://www.norfolk.gov/AgendaCenter/Vie...ileID=9353

Referring to Bluestone Ave. as a "major" roadway is a bit of a stretch too!

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Media cant help but putting out fake news.
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CIAA moves to Baltimore. Probably better for Norfolk that this skips town. Brought way more negativity to Charlotte than any positives.
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