I wish people would quit pining for the Liberty Bowl. We don't need it now and won't need it later. The Big East has the BCS, Gator/Sun, Houston, Meineke Car Care, and (when approved in April) Toronto. Five bowl ties for the 2006 through 2009 bowl period. That actually means one more deal than what's available this year. Houston replaces Insight and Toronto will be the new kid on the block.

When 2010 rolls around, the Big Apple Bowl will probably be added. That will replace Houston. A far better destination than the freezing cold Liberty Bowl would be a second Tampa Bowl, since a Big East member happens to reside in that city. Several cities have the NFL, and still do two bowls, so that's no excuse. If getting Raymond James Stadium is an issue, it can be played at Tropicana Field.

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3601 Wrote:L-Yes and Maize kill me.

The Liberty Bowl picked C-USA because it's a better fit than the Big East.  They wanted C-USA vs. SEC all along.  The ONLY reason they ever talked to the Big East was because they wanted the SEC and the SEC at one point said they wouldn't play against C-USA.  Nowhere does that article read that they caved to pressure.  They got what they wanted from the beginning.  Big East was never option #1 or #2.

Maize, saying you'd take the Houston Bowl over the Liberty Bowl sure does sound like sour grapes to me.  This summer y'all were practically reveling in the fact that y'all were going to "take" the Liberty Bowl from C-USA.  The payouts aren't anywhere close and the Liberty Bowl payout is going up.  Reliant stadium is nice, but the Liberty Bowl is undergoing renovations.  It looks much different this year than it did last season.  Houston is warmer, but y'all sure do talk about a bowl in NYC a whole lot and I don't think it's real warm up there in the winter.

So you're ripping the Big East because they didn't get the Liberty Bowl as their 3rd or 4th bowl and that C-USA "beat them out" and the Liberty Bowl is C-USA's best bowl? That's what C-USA fans in this thread are laughing about "HAHA, we got the Liberty Bowl as our #1 bowl, you couldn't even get them as your 3rd or 4th place bowl, SCOREBOARD!" So the Big East just replaced them with another bowl that C-USA seriously considered as their #1 bowl, and they will, AT BEST be the Big East's #2 bowl on certain years, but more then likely the 3rd or 4th place bowl depending on what the Tire Bowl does each year? Think about that.

I never "ripped" the Big East. I'm taking up for C-USA. You may be the most ultrasensitive and paranoid person on the entire internet.

I have no problem with anything regarding the Big East. I do have a problem with Big East fans who feel it neccessary to constantly bash C-USA.


L-Yes both made inaccurate posts. Maize may honestly feel that way about Houston, but the payout isn't close and I don't rember anyone having those same sentiments just a few short months ago.

Maize, at best, there has been confusion. But CUSA Commish Banowsky has been quite diligent and unlike, for example MWC Commish, a master of understatement. How the CUSA Press Release came to be, who knows? But I don't thank Banowsky is the type of person to be a lier...especially when putting your words on a press release that will go into many newspapers. My guess there was either confusion or misinterpretation within CUSA.

But, Maize, Banowsky is not the main part of my post. You are fixated on CUSA. Rather than put the nice BE article on and brag on BE which is appropriate, you had a tizzy fit that CUSA was involved, even though marginally. My goodness! Leprosy?!?! You trivilized and pull down BE more than anything a CUSA fan or official could do, intentionally or nonintentionally. If you goal is to flame, then fine. BUt if your goal is to boost BE, you are doing a poor job.

Tallgrass Wrote:Maize, at best, there has been confusion. But CUSA Commish Banowsky has been quite diligent and unlike, for example MWC Commish, a master of understatement. How the CUSA Press Release came to be, who knows? But I don't thank Banowsky is the type of person to be a lier...especially when putting your words on a press release that will go into many newspapers. My guess there was either confusion or misinterpretation within CUSA.

But, Maize, Banowsky is not the main part of my post. You are fixated on CUSA. Rather than put the nice BE article on and brag on BE which is appropriate, you had a tizzy fit that CUSA was involved, even though marginally. My goodness! Leprosy?!?! You trivilized and pull down BE more than anything a CUSA fan or official could do, intentionally or nonintentionally. If you goal is to flame, then fine. BUt if your goal is to boost BE, you are doing a poor job.

I don't know about that Tallgrass, BB does have a history of not dotting all the I's and crossing all the T's. Remember last year conference basketball tournament were the league office "forgot" to sign the Memphis guarantee in case it did not sell out which cost the league 1 Million Dollars.

We will find out soon enough what the deal is but my money is on the Big East.

BTW you still should be happy with your bowl situation, at least you are not the MWC.

I don't want to make it seem like I'm ripping C-USA because, despite a lot of the fans ripping UC and the Big East, I still like C-USA. It's where UC's football program got to bowl-quality level and our basketball program continued to grow to national prominence. C-USA, I still believe, will be better then the MWC as soon as next year, the conference has more quality and bowl stability. That being said, don't spin tales if you're the C-USA office, that's ridiculous.

As for BB being in control of the situation, as Maize said, he has a reputation for not completely dotting the i's and crossing the t's. The Memphis/C-USA tournament situation is one. Conference expansion was another, with TCU and that situation. It was similar to Boston College, but the conference didn't get stuck with teams that they only invited because of TCU. And don't forget the Louisville situation where Louisville wasn't required to play Memphis and other schools C-USA wanted because of the fine print on the contract.

Considering the fact there are more bowls now then you can shake a stick at, there is no need for anybody to get bent out of shape.
The non BCS bowls will be adding and subtracting teams for years to come. With so many bowls all you have to do is win 6 lousy games and chances are you are going somehwere as the conferences will not be able to fill all of their slots every year.
Schools dont make any money off these bowls it is just a chance to reward the players and fans with a bowl game and get good exposure for recruiting.
Houston is a good destination and BigEast fans will like it if they go to the game. I am sure CUSA commissioner spoke with the Houston Bowl and they have a natural attraction to keeping CUSA as an option since we are now TXCUSA. It would only be logical for Houston Bowl folks to keep the door open for CUSA if they need to fill a slot one year.

As for Notre Dame...... My guess is they will never,ever,play in the Houston Bowl,Muffler Bowl,Apple Bowl or anything below ND standards.

They played in the insight bowl last year, but I agree with what you say although this is not your grandfather's notre dame anymore.

Tell me; how many BE Teams will be bowl elgible this year????

The mighty BCS league SEC won't even have a team to represent them in the Music City Bowl in Nashville TN.

Which is right smack in the middle of SEC Country!!!!!

Cletus Wrote:Tell me; how many BE Teams will be bowl elgible this year????

The mighty BCS league SEC won't even have a team to represent them in the Music City Bowl in Nashville TN.

Which is right smack in the middle of SEC Country!!!!!

In the 8 team league the Big East right now has 4 that are bowl eligible in WVU, UofL, Rutgers and USF. If Pitt beats WVU on Thanksgiving that would give the league 5 Bowl Eligible teams.