I heard Chrysler might move...

A video killed our people...

Yeah, clearly Obama isn't the worthless C&C he appears to be.

(10-27-2012 09:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 09:47 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 09:04 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Waiting for all the apologies to Max for correctly pointing out Mitt's lie.....

What was the lie Tom?

Mitt said he read an article that ... And there are articles that say just that.

Now those articles, and Mitt, could be right or wrong but that's no lie

RedwingRobert doesn't do reading comprehension or basic reasoning.

And NumnutzFan1 wants a leader who can't be bothered to do any research before running with stories from right-wing rags like the Washington Examiner.

Again, bottom line is that what Mitt said was 100% factually wrong. If it helps you sleep better saying he didn't lie...go right ahead. The rest of us know what Mitt is and we have made it crystal clear to you. So if he wins, just remember we told you so.

This from the dipsh1t that posts Huffpo like it's the gospel? Hilarious.

Thank you for acknowledging Romney didn't lie. I know it was tough for you. Now if we could just get your mouth off Obama's junk long enough to acknowledge when he has lied we'd be making progress.

So this what the right is reduced to. It reminds me of the echo chamber that Cheney led to the WMD angle in Iraq. You plant stories in friendly media then cite those stories. It works SO WELL.


"If Mitt was president we would have 3-5% GDP growth, cheaper energy, and a business environment that creates jobs."

and he would shoot lightning bolts from his arse!!!! Give me a break.

(10-27-2012 10:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 09:09 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 07:53 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 07:08 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  More BS from a BS candidate. They only support Mittens because they hate Barack. Pathetic.

So what exactly has the White House liar done to earn my vote? Welfare and Food Stamps are exploding since 2008. Mitt has actually done something in his life other than community organizing.

B1tch you still have a job! Your ATM machine still works. The Iraq war, that sh1t is over. You don't have to worry about Osama bin Laden blowing your @ss up. Your stock portfolio is doing better than ever and your insurance company can't deny you for pre-existing conditions.

He believes in something, he doesn't change daily, he works harder than the other guy, he has more foreign policy experience and he is a better president than the other guy could ever dream of being.

I've had a job with every president. Obama didn't save my job. I bank with Etrade that never received bail out money although they applied. Obama did what every president would do with Osama Bin Laden.

Obama has never had a real job. He can give a speech to get dummies excited. He is the community orangizer. If Mitt was president we would have 3-5% GDP growth, cheaper energy, and a business environment that creates jobs.

You mean like how the last president caught Osama bin Laden? What is Mitt's plan?

At least the Republican candidate isn't the one LYING about allowing 4 Americans to be killed while he sat by and did nothing. EVEN WHEN the CIA gave an assessment of the situation that any POTUS with Common Sense would have determined justified the interjection of US forces, but not Barry, it's all about an offensive movie. That lie allowed people to die.

(10-27-2012 11:07 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 09:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 09:47 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 09:04 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Waiting for all the apologies to Max for correctly pointing out Mitt's lie.....

What was the lie Tom?

Mitt said he read an article that ... And there are articles that say just that.

Now those articles, and Mitt, could be right or wrong but that's no lie

RedwingRobert doesn't do reading comprehension or basic reasoning.

And NumnutzFan1 wants a leader who can't be bothered to do any research before running with stories from right-wing rags like the Washington Examiner.

Again, bottom line is that what Mitt said was 100% factually wrong. If it helps you sleep better saying he didn't lie...go right ahead. The rest of us know what Mitt is and we have made it crystal clear to you. So if he wins, just remember we told you so.

This from the dipsh1t that posts Huffpo like it's the gospel? Hilarious.

Thank you for acknowledging Romney didn't lie. I know it was tough for you. Now if we could just get your mouth off Obama's junk long enough to acknowledge when he has lied we'd be making progress.

Apparently you're a little slow. I never said Mitt didn't lie. I said if it helps you sleep better at night thinking that he didn't, go right ahead.

And it's pretty funny that both you and Mitt shot first and aimed later here by being beholden to your right wing rag, the WE.

And we don't know if Mitt actually did the research to know that what he put in his speech was 100% factually incorrect, but made the calculation that he could just blame it on the Washington Examiner's shoddy reporting. He is a pretty hollow candidate after all.

But again, bottom line, Mitt was 100% factually incorrect and you know it. At least have some ******* integrity and admit that.

As soon as you admit the administration was FOS blaming the video nobody watched for the assault on Benghazi for two solid weeks.

Deal?

And FTR, here is the actual reporting that the WE, Mitt and NumnutzFan1 apparently didn't see fit to take the time to do...

No, Jeep isn’t moving any factories or production to China

(10-27-2012 12:57 PM)Smaug Wrote:  As soon as you admit the administration was FOS blaming the video nobody watched for the assault on Benghazi for two solid weeks.

Deal?

Dipshit, I have told you numerous times that I have not absolved the administration and that the investigation is still ongoing. I also cited for you the other day that there was accounts from people on the ground and comments from the alleged attackers that the video may have played a roll.

They knew in the first f'n day it was a coordinated attack.

I'll give you the first day, but not two weeks.

All this while the president is busting Romney's chops for "shooting first and aiming later". Care to attend the beam in your own eye, Mr. President?

(10-27-2012 08:29 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Did you see this Detroit Free Press article Hambone? Or did you write it off as another left wing blogger?

http://www.freep.com/article/20121026/BU...NTPAGE%7Cp

Quote:Romney apparently was referencing conservative bloggers who misrepresented a Bloomberg story from Monday that discussed Chrysler’s decision to consider starting Jeep production in China, the world’s largest new-vehicle market.

That story, while accurate, sparked a raft of other stories and blogs that incorrectly concluded that Chrysler might close plants or move Jeep production from the U.S. to China.

Gualberto Ranieri, Chrysler’s vice president of communications, criticized those stories Thursday even before Romney made his comments.

“Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China,” Ranieri said. “It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China, for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation.”

A spokesperson for the Romney campaign declined to comment.

They said nothing about shutting down all production here and moving it to China. Lie.

You can read, Max. He certainly did imply that... which is why the guy had to post a correction. Interestingly, the guy who said it works for the parent company, and the guy you quote works for the domestic company. Chrysler may have no thoughts of moving production, but Fiat may well.

If THIS is the biggest "lie" you have on Romney, you've lost all perspective.

He said he read an article. He did. You've read it as well. He said he would fight for American jobs and fairness out of China.

Exactly what is the lie? He didn't say Fiat is doing this... he said he read an article.... and it wasn't in some blog, but from businessweek including quotes from the company.


Where is the lie? Quote it to me?

(10-27-2012 02:41 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 08:29 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Did you see this Detroit Free Press article Hambone? Or did you write it off as another left wing blogger?

http://www.freep.com/article/20121026/BU...NTPAGE%7Cp

Quote:Romney apparently was referencing conservative bloggers who misrepresented a Bloomberg story from Monday that discussed Chrysler’s decision to consider starting Jeep production in China, the world’s largest new-vehicle market.

That story, while accurate, sparked a raft of other stories and blogs that incorrectly concluded that Chrysler might close plants or move Jeep production from the U.S. to China.

Gualberto Ranieri, Chrysler’s vice president of communications, criticized those stories Thursday even before Romney made his comments.

“Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China,” Ranieri said. “It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China, for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation.”

A spokesperson for the Romney campaign declined to comment.

They said nothing about shutting down all production here and moving it to China. Lie.

You can read, Max. He certainly did imply that... which is why the guy had to post a correction. Interestingly, the guy who said it works for the parent company, and the guy you quote works for the domestic company. Chrysler may have no thoughts of moving production, but Fiat may well.

If THIS is the biggest "lie" you have on Romney, you've lost all perspective.

He said he read an article. He did. You've read it as well. He said he would fight for American jobs and fairness out of China.

Exactly what is the lie? He didn't say Fiat is doing this... he said he read an article.... and it wasn't in some blog, but from businessweek including quotes from the company.


Where is the lie? Quote it to me?

What's the lie? Are you kidding?

""I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep -- now owned by the Italians -- is thinking of moving all production to China. I will fight for every good job in America. I'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it's fair America will win.""

Even if you read the word "output" in the BusinessWeek article as meaning the entire car gets produced in China and have no idea what "localize" means, it says nothing about closing American plants at all.

Don't give me this "Oh but he just read it that way" bull **** either. This wasn't an of the cuff remark. He was giving a prepared speech (which is all he does now, because he's avoiding interviews because he's terrible at it and doesn't want to be asked about his tax plan or Mourdock/rape) which was crafted by him and his advisers. This was a huge claim to be making and there is no chance they didn't know the ******* truth. If the campaign really did believe this they would have contacted Jeep for more material, after which they would have been given the truth.

LOL Never said it was the biggest lie; said it was the latest. The biggest lie for me is taking credit for the auto bailout, but there's also claiming his plan covers people with pre existing conditions on a debate stage and having his campaign chair give a media correction right after it's over, and saying of course he would have killed bin Laden after stating previously he would not have violated Pakistan's sovereignty and wouldn't move heaven and earth to get one guy. Oh, and every single position he's ever taken and reversed completely on (which would be every single one).

(10-27-2012 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Waiting for all the apologies to Max for correctly pointing out Mitt's lie.....

That's okay, they just take after their candidate.

(10-27-2012 01:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 12:57 PM)Smaug Wrote:  As soon as you admit the administration was FOS blaming the video nobody watched for the assault on Benghazi for two solid weeks.

Deal?

*******, I have told you numerous times that I have not absolved the administration and that the investigation is still ongoing. I also cited for you the other day that there was accounts from people on the ground and comments from the alleged attackers that the video may have played a roll.

Yes you have. You will never hold Obama accountable for anything because you are his A number one butt boy. You will always find a reason not to hold him accountable because you're are intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt. This all in addition to being too stupid to know what a lie is. Something being factually incorrect isn't a lie you Obama d!ck licking butt boy.

You should be ashamed of yourself for being such a low life and corrupting any and all honesty in service to your messiah.

Let's break down the conversaton


Here is what the article said

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Romney said he read an article that the italian owner of jeep was considering moving its production to China.

Do you deny that is precisely what the article said?


Heck, even your own quote...

Quote:That story, while accurate, sparked a raft of other stories and blogs that incorrectly concluded that Chrysler might close plants or move Jeep production from the U.S. to China.

The story was accurate... according to your own quote.


So you consider when someone says "may eventually make all of its models in that country" is far enough removed from "thinking of moving all production" to be important??

What a joke. If your guy doesn't win, you're really going to lose it aren't you.

Reading is fundamental, folks. Ninerfan and Hambone have schooled Max and RWT on this argument.

Romney and Ryan taking more of the undecided votes as the days go on. Pressure ramping up on Lord Zero, both with the Benghazi deaths that he allowed to happen, and this reelection strain. States that he was counting on are being written off now - NC, VA. CO is even, as is WI. Romney actually up a tad in MI as well as FL.

10 more days.

(10-27-2012 05:55 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Let's break down the conversaton


Here is what the article said

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Romney said he read an article that the italian owner of jeep was considering moving its production to China.

Do you deny that is precisely what the article said?


Heck, even your own quote...

Quote:That story, while accurate, sparked a raft of other stories and blogs that incorrectly concluded that Chrysler might close plants or move Jeep production from the U.S. to China.

The story was accurate... according to your own quote.


So you consider when someone says "may eventually make all of its models in that country" is far enough removed from "thinking of moving all production" to be important??

What a joke. If your guy doesn't win, you're really going to lose it aren't you.

So now the question is if it's "far enough removed.". No, what he said is a lie and you just admitted it. Romney spread a rumor about Jeep shutting down plants in Toledo to scare Ohio voters into voting for him and it stretches credulity to suggest he didn't know any better. It's despicable.

My guy will win anyway, but this Roms tactic was low.

(10-27-2012 10:04 PM)Max Power Wrote:  So now the question is if it's "far enough removed.". No, what he said is a lie and you just admitted it. Romney spread a rumor about Jeep shutting down plants in Toledo to scare Ohio voters into voting for him and it stretches credulity to suggest he didn't know any better. It's despicable.

My guy will win anyway, but this Roms tactic was low.

Spinner be spinnin'

Obama blames a video for a terrorist attack... not a lie

Mitt said he read something (that exist)... is a lie

We still don't know that the video played no role, despite what Fox tells you.

You can't reasonably believe Romney said something false in a prepared speech that he didn't know was false.

Once more numbnuts, what was his lie?