Planned Parenthood spends another $800k on anti-Romney ads in swing states

Quote:Planned Parenthood’s political division announced yesterday their plans for an additional $828,000 in anti-Romney radio advertising in the swing states of Virginia and Colorado in the critical final days before the election. This brings their total investment in the U.S. election to $5.7 million, with much of that money being spent in those two states.

But it's ok because well, we made a law saying its ok for some tax exempt non profits to put commercials up and other to not even mention the race from the pulpit.

Is there a point somewhere?

(10-17-2012 02:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Is there a point somewhere?

Wow, rwt couldn't understand a simple, logical connection. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

yet another example of how things would be easier if all organizations played (and paid!) by the same rules.

(10-17-2012 02:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Is there a point somewhere?

Isn't PP a tax-exempt nonprofit?

PP isn't a religion.

(10-17-2012 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  PP isn't a religion.

And your point is?

(10-17-2012 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  PP isn't a religion.

So, should they be able to shill for a candidate and keep their tax exempt status?

(10-17-2012 03:27 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  PP isn't a religion.

So, should they be able to shill for a candidate and keep their tax exempt status?

no silly, its the manner in which they're tax exempt. duh.

(10-17-2012 03:27 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  PP isn't a religion.

So, should they be able to shill for a candidate and keep their tax exempt status?

Well, it is the law. Much like Mitt follows the law to only pay a 14% effective tax rate on millions in income.

IRS Section 501(h) Election
IRS Form 5768

Personally, I really don't want my church pastor making political endorsements from the pulpit even it is was perfectly legal to do so.

I don't, either, and left a church because of it.

(10-17-2012 04:09 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I don't, either, and left a church because of it.

Yeah...I was seriously considering getting up and walking out on the 7th if my Pastor went there.

Thankfully, he didn't.

(10-17-2012 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  PP isn't a religion.

So we treat a private religious groups with less assembly and speech rights than we do a private secular group?

Oh yea no danger in that.

Planned Parenthood is not a 501(c.)(3) organization. Contributions to Planned Parenthood are not tax deductable. Planned Parenthood specifically chose to organize itself under a different statute, a statute which allows political lobbying but not tax-deductible contributions, because of the importance of lobbying to its mission. Your complaint makes no more sense than would a complaint from Planned Parenthood that they are being treated unfairly because people can't deduct contributions to Planned Parenthood.

Now if you can find an example of an actual 501(c.)(3) organization engaging in behavior that is prohibited to a church, and information on this thread suggests there very well may be, that would be something. Or if churches are only allowed to organize under 501(c.)(3) and not the other statutes that might be different as well.

Sorry, you're wrong. Here is their tax return:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/P...losure.pdf

And please refer to my earlier post which details how 501c3 organizations are allowed to use a portion of their money to lobby and influence. It is legal as long as they stay within the required limits.

And from their website:

Quote:About PPFA
Click here for more information about PPFA, including how to obtain a copy of our latest Financial Report and Registration. Your contribution to Planned Parenthood Federation of America is tax-deductible to the fullest extent allowable under the law.

(10-17-2012 07:28 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  PP isn't a religion.

So we treat a private religious groups with less assembly and speech rights than we do a private secular group?

Oh yea no danger in that.

Churches are not required to file 990 tax returns. PP is. If you want all churches to have to start filing tax returns and disclosing their major donors, etc., then be my guest, talk about politics all you want from the pulpit...just be prepared to see your donations and memberships go buh-bye.

(10-18-2012 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sorry, you're wrong. Here is their tax return:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/P...losure.pdf

And please refer to my earlier post which details how 501c3 organizations are allowed to use a portion of their money to lobby and influence. It is legal as long as they stay within the required limits.

My mistake. Mixed up my non-profits.

(10-17-2012 04:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 04:09 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I don't, either, and left a church because of it.

Yeah...I was seriously considering getting up and walking out on the 7th if my Pastor went there.

Thankfully, he didn't.

Some people go to church to feel good or drum up business.

Others go to hear the Word of God, just not Smaug or Tom b/c it interferes with thier agendas.

(10-18-2012 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 07:28 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  PP isn't a religion.

So we treat a private religious groups with less assembly and speech rights than we do a private secular group?

Oh yea no danger in that.

Churches are not required to file 990 tax returns. PP is. If you want all churches to have to start filing tax returns and disclosing their major donors, etc., then be my guest, talk about politics all you want from the pulpit...just be prepared to see your donations and memberships go buh-bye.

Man your obtuse on this... I am saying that the regulations differentiating the two is unjust.

as it stands someone could run for office under the platform "Ban Churches from having parking lots" and the church could say *nothing*