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Sending a CENTCOM Command and Control Detachment to network with EUCOM when Turkey invokes Article V of the NATO Charter.

If Syria attacks north into Turkey, the NATO/EUCOM handles the US response. If Syria attacks Jordan, then CENTCOM is responsible.


Panetta: US sends forces to Jordan

BRUSSELS (AP) — The United States has sent military troops to the Jordan-Syria border to bolster that country's military capabilities in the event that violence escalates along its border with Syria, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Wednesday.

Speaking at a NATO conference of defense ministers in Brussels, Panetta said the U.S. has been working with Jordan to monitor chemical and biological weapons sites in Syria and also to help Jordan deal with refugees pouring over the border from Syria. The troops are also building a headquarters for themselves.

But the revelation of U.S. military personnel so close to the 19-month-old Syrian conflict suggests an escalation in the U.S. military involvement in the conflict, even as Washington pushes back on any suggestion of a direct intervention in Syria.

It also follows several days of shelling between Turkey and Syria, an indication that the civil war could spill across Syria's borders and become a regional conflict.

"We have a group of our forces there working to help build a headquarters there and to insure that we make the relationship between the United States and Jordan a strong one so that we can deal with all the possible consequences of what's happening in Syria," Panetta said.


The development comes with the U.S. presidential election less than a month away, and at a time when former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the Republican nominee, has been criticizing President Barack Obama's foreign policy, accusing the administration of embracing too passive a stance in the convulsive Mideast region.

The defense secretary and other administration officials have expressed concern about Syrian President Bashar Assad's arsenal of chemical weapons. Panetta said last week that the United States believes that while the weapons are still secure, intelligence suggests the regime might have moved the weapons to protect them. The Obama administration has said that Assad's use of chemical weapons would be a "red line" that would change the U.S. policy of providing only non-lethal aid to the rebels seeking to topple him.

Pentagon press secretary George Little, traveling with Panetta, said the U.S. and Jordan agreed that "increased cooperation and more detailed planning are necessary in order to respond to the severe consequences of the Assad regime's brutality."

He said the U.S. has provided medical kits, water tanks, and other forms of humanitarian aid to help Jordanians assist Syrian refugees fleeing into their country.

Little said the military personnel were there to help Jordan with the flood of Syrian refugees over its borders and the security of Syria's stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.

"As we've said before, we have been planning for various contingencies, both unilaterally and with our regional partners," Little said in a written statement. "There are various scenarios in which the Assad regime's reprehensible actions could affect our partners in the region. For this reason and many others, we are always working on our contingency planning, for which we consult with our friends."

A U.S. defense official in Washington said the forces are made up of 100 military planners and other personnel who stayed on in Jordan after attending an annual exercise in May, and several dozen more have flown in since, operating from a joint U.S.-Jordanian military center north of Amman that Americans have used for years.

He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk about the mission on the record.

In Jordan, the biggest problem for now seems to be the strain put on the country's meager resources by the estimated 200,000 Syrian refugees who have flooded across the border — the largest fleeing to any country.

Several dozen refugees in Jordan rioted in their desert border camp of Zaatari early this month, destroying tents and medicine and leaving scores of refugee families out in the night cold.

Jordanian men also are moving the other way across the border — joining what intelligence officials have estimated to be around 2,000 foreigners fighting alongside Syrian rebels trying to topple Assad. A Jordanian border guard was wounded after armed men — believed trying to go fight — exchanged gunfire at the northern frontier.

Turkey has reinforced its border with artillery guns and deployed more fighter jets to an air base close to the border region after an errant Syrian mortar shell killed five people in a Turkish border town last week and Turkey retaliated with artillery strikes.

Turkey's military chief Gen. Necdet Ozel vowed Wednesday to respond with more force to any further shelling from Syria, keeping up the pressure on its southern neighbor a day after NATO said it stood ready to defend Turkey.

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Oh. I thought this was going to be about NIU's QB Jordan Lynch. Guess this thread wasn't imprtant afterall.
10-10-2012 02:07 PM
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So, W's saber-rattling bothered you, but O's doesn't.
10-10-2012 02:26 PM
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man you are a douche.
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(10-10-2012 02:26 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, W's saber-rattling bothered you, but O's doesn't.

03-lmfao

These guys are unbelievable

They're concerned about people who used to support W, who now support Romney, but not the Sec's of defense and state
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Speaking as someone who has done two overseas tours, I'm not okay with any president sending our troops to another country that's going to be ungrateful, hateful, and doesn't really want us there to begin with. I hate the idea that our boys are fighting, dying, and being severely disabled for another country that behind closed doors really hates us.
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(10-11-2012 03:50 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Speaking as someone who has done two overseas tours, I'm not okay with any president sending our troops to another country that's going to be ungrateful, hateful, and doesn't really want us there to begin with. I hate the idea that our boys are fighting, dying, and being severely disabled for another country that behind closed doors really hates us.

+1

I support energy independence (I know it's fungible, I'm talking about controlling as much energy as we need in our region so that we don't need to rely on "friends" in the middle east) for this very reason.
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(10-11-2012 03:50 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Speaking as someone who has done two overseas tours, I'm not okay with any president sending our troops to another country that's going to be ungrateful, hateful, and doesn't really want us there to begin with. I hate the idea that our boys are fighting, dying, and being severely disabled for another country that behind closed doors really hates us.

I'm not okay with any president sending our troops to another country to do anything but hit them with overwhelming force, quickly kill everybody who needs killing and blow up everything that needs blowing up, and come home. If a situation does not warrant authorizing rules of engagement to accomplish those purposes, then sending troops is not the right answer.
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(10-11-2012 03:50 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Speaking as someone who has done two overseas tours, I'm not okay with any president sending our troops to another country that's going to be ungrateful, hateful, and doesn't really want us there to begin with. I hate the idea that our boys are fighting, dying, and being severely disabled for another country that behind closed doors really hates us.

The only argument with this Jared is that Jordan is that it has been a strong vocal US ally in the middle east., so I think they really want us there and are one of the few countries that are not "ungrateful" to the US presence. It's probably our number two recognized ally there, just behind Israel and well above Saudi Arabia.

So I'm guessing we're there pretty much "only" for Jordan... if it turns into a Turkey/Syria shooting match, the US Military response will be "Okay, NATO it's all yours, go do whatever you're going to do.".
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Can we just A/C bomb the Middle East? Maybe if they cool off they'll stop getting agitated over every little stupid thing and try to drag us in with them.
10-12-2012 11:01 PM
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