Carrol Spinney, they guy under all the feathers, pulled down $314K according to his '10 tax returns.

That makes Sesame Street a pretty high end neighborhood, and Big Bird part of the 1%.

Go get 'em, Mr. President.

Ummmm...why exactly do we know what this guys tax returns contained?

We read?

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertain...ear/57774/

Would PBS survive without government? Probably, yes.

Would it be the same? No.

The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

It's pretty stupid for Romney to claim on one hand that subsidies to the oil industry create jobs and should be kept, but subsidies to PBS are bad and should go away. I'm betting the subsidy to PBS creates a **** ton of jobs, and likely more than what the oil industry subsidy would create because the oil industry doesn't actually need the money to hire.

Is it worth borrowing money from China to pay for?

It's a yes or no question.

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

Why do they show that? Because that's apparently what people will watch. Would it be better to waste money on educational shows that no one watches because Jersey Shore and Duck Dynasty are on other channels?

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Would PBS survive without government? Probably, yes.

Would it be the same? No.

The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

It's pretty stupid for Romney to claim on one hand that subsidies to the oil industry create jobs and should be kept, but subsidies to PBS are bad and should go away. I'm betting the subsidy to PBS creates a **** ton of jobs, and likely more than what the oil industry subsidy would create because the oil industry doesn't actually need the money to hire.

dancing around the OP


nice try

(10-10-2012 10:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Is it worth borrowing money from China to pay for?

It's a yes or no question.

Yes.

It's a national institution and distributes high value art and childrens programming to low income individuals who may not have access to it otherwise (and even some people with 500+ channel cable packages watch it).

We can shut down PBS. We can sell off the national parks. We can shut down the national museums. And we can use the savings to give tax breaks to millionaires. AKA, the Republican platform. But what we're selling is our national identity and sense of community and union. Without that, America will crumble.

(10-10-2012 10:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Is it worth borrowing money from China to pay for?

It's a yes or no question.

Did someone say read?

Quote:But if you thought China's been doing most of the bankrolling, you might be surprised to learn who really holds our federal mortgage.

Fully two-thirds of the national debt is owed to the U.S. government, American investors and future retirees, through the Social Security Trust Fund and pension plans for civil service workers and military personnel. China, it turns out, holds less than 8 percent of the money our government has borrowed over the years

US debt tops $16 trillion: So who do we owe most of that money to?

(10-10-2012 10:59 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

Why do they show that? Because that's apparently what people will watch. Would it be better to waste money on educational shows that no one watches because Jersey Shore and Duck Dynasty are on other channels?

They're pandering to the lowest common denominator for a profit. And if you privatize PBS, they'll do it too.

And a hell of a lot of people watch PBS educational shows. And we're better off for it.

(10-10-2012 11:04 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Is it worth borrowing money from China to pay for?

It's a yes or no question.

Yes.

It's a national institution and distributes high value art and childrens programming to low income individuals who may not have access to it otherwise (and even some people with 500+ channel cable packages watch it).

We can shut down PBS. We can sell off the national parks. We can shut down the national museums. And we can use the savings to give tax breaks to millionaires. AKA, the Republican platform. But what we're selling is our national identity and sense of community and union. Without that, America will crumble.

LOL, typical leftist BS about educating kids who'll be working for China for eternity to pay for Big Bird.

(10-10-2012 11:06 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:59 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

Why do they show that? Because that's apparently what people will watch. Would it be better to waste money on educational shows that no one watches because Jersey Shore and Duck Dynasty are on other channels?

They're pandering to the lowest common denominator for a profit. And if you privatize PBS, they'll do it too.

And a hell of a lot of people watch PBS educational shows. And we're better off for it.

If in fact a lot of people watch PBS then it can stand on it's own. If there aren't a lot of people watching it then it won't and even if it continues to be tax payer funded it won't increase viewership. Most poor people I know have a satellite dish or cable access so I don't think defunding PBS will cause them a hardship.

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Would PBS survive without government? Probably, yes.

Would it be the same? No.

The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

It's pretty stupid for Romney to claim on one hand that subsidies to the oil industry create jobs and should be kept, but subsidies to PBS are bad and should go away. I'm betting the subsidy to PBS creates a **** ton of jobs, and likely more than what the oil industry subsidy would create because the oil industry doesn't actually need the money to hire.

BTW, you just proved you dont know wtf you are talking about

(10-10-2012 11:06 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:59 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

Why do they show that? Because that's apparently what people will watch. Would it be better to waste money on educational shows that no one watches because Jersey Shore and Duck Dynasty are on other channels?

They're pandering to the lowest common denominator for a profit. And if you privatize PBS, they'll do it too.

And a hell of a lot of people watch PBS educational shows. And we're better off for it.

why dont you and all of your fellow leftists get together and give your own money to pay for it.

oh........i know why, turds like you dont know what giving to charity is all about

(10-10-2012 11:21 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 11:04 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Is it worth borrowing money from China to pay for?

It's a yes or no question.

Yes.

It's a national institution and distributes high value art and childrens programming to low income individuals who may not have access to it otherwise (and even some people with 500+ channel cable packages watch it).

We can shut down PBS. We can sell off the national parks. We can shut down the national museums. And we can use the savings to give tax breaks to millionaires. AKA, the Republican platform. But what we're selling is our national identity and sense of community and union. Without that, America will crumble.

LOL, typical leftist BS about educating kids who'll be working for China for eternity to pay for Big Bird.

8%.

China holds 8%.

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Would PBS survive without government? Probably, yes.

Would it be the same? No.

The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

It's pretty stupid for Romney to claim on one hand that subsidies to the oil industry create jobs and should be kept, but subsidies to PBS are bad and should go away. I'm betting the subsidy to PBS creates a **** ton of jobs, and likely more than what the oil industry subsidy would create because the oil industry doesn't actually need the money to hire.

There is no evidence that Romney supports subsidies for oil industry, as characterized by that statement. He is for lowering the tax rate and eliminate oil subsidies. Repeating the lies do not make it any truer. What it shows is desperation.

(10-10-2012 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 11:21 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 11:04 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Is it worth borrowing money from China to pay for?

It's a yes or no question.

Yes.

It's a national institution and distributes high value art and childrens programming to low income individuals who may not have access to it otherwise (and even some people with 500+ channel cable packages watch it).

We can shut down PBS. We can sell off the national parks. We can shut down the national museums. And we can use the savings to give tax breaks to millionaires. AKA, the Republican platform. But what we're selling is our national identity and sense of community and union. Without that, America will crumble.

LOL, typical leftist BS about educating kids who'll be working for China for eternity to pay for Big Bird.

8%.

China holds 8%.

Good to know you're ok with China owning 8% of our children. What's your limit? 25% of our children is ok? 50%?

How much of our Children should China own?

(10-10-2012 11:53 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Would PBS survive without government? Probably, yes.

Would it be the same? No.

The Learning Channel was once run by NASA. Then, it was privatized. Today, it's TLC and it shows Here Come's Honey Boo Boo.

It's pretty stupid for Romney to claim on one hand that subsidies to the oil industry create jobs and should be kept, but subsidies to PBS are bad and should go away. I'm betting the subsidy to PBS creates a **** ton of jobs, and likely more than what the oil industry subsidy would create because the oil industry doesn't actually need the money to hire.

There is no evidence that Romney supports subsidies for oil industry, as characterized by that statement. He is for lowering the tax rate and eliminate oil subsidies. Repeating the lies do not make it any truer. What it shows is desperation.

Huh? He said in the debate that he specifically would NOT cut the oil subsidy.

Maybe that was just one of his lies or policy reversals and he will just etch-a-sketch it away later though.

(10-10-2012 11:06 AM)Max Power Wrote:  And a hell of a lot of people watch PBS educational shows. And we're better off for it.

Prove it.

(10-10-2012 11:21 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 11:04 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 10:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Is it worth borrowing money from China to pay for?

It's a yes or no question.

Yes.

It's a national institution and distributes high value art and childrens programming to low income individuals who may not have access to it otherwise (and even some people with 500+ channel cable packages watch it).

We can shut down PBS. We can sell off the national parks. We can shut down the national museums. And we can use the savings to give tax breaks to millionaires. AKA, the Republican platform. But what we're selling is our national identity and sense of community and union. Without that, America will crumble.

LOL, typical leftist BS about educating kids who'll be working for China for eternity to pay for Big Bird.

This is as good a time as any to remind you the Iraq War cost you $1000/yr. Big Bird, $0.30.

At least with Sesame Street on the air our children are learning some things. If we privatize it and let it be replaced with Duck Tales and Pokemon, they'll have to work a lot longer and harder to pay that bill from China.