(10-01-2012 05:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If that was a White Cop it would be all over the news. I'm afraid IMATY is right and riots are not out of the question. I think the black cop is hit with water from someone on the left. The girl acted like she did something and whammo. I bet she doesn't shoot silly string at cops anymore.



Check That. Let's see if she gets a financial settlement out of this.

Thanks Mach, my only point was the two circumstances would be treated differently in the eyes of the media and some lefties(not all and I realize that).

Frankly I think they should have rioted to show the police they can't just go off half cocked and hit people, much less women. I'm sick of cops treating citizens like we're beneath them and I'm sick of the race baiting pieces of chit in the world who look for racism when it isn't there. That's as bad IMO as actual racism.

(10-01-2012 07:18 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If that was a White Cop it would be all over the news. I'm afraid IMATY is right and riots are not out of the question. I think the black cop is hit with water from someone on the left. The girl acted like she did something and whammo. I bet she doesn't shoot silly string at cops anymore.



Check That. Let's see if she gets a financial settlement out of this.

I think it's more "when" than "if." And deservedly so, IMO. However I'll be curious to see what the amount is. In cases like this, it's whatever you think it should be, then multiply that by 10 and you get the lawsuit amount.

No, it's not. You just think it is because there is a vested interest by the government and businesses to portray lawsuits as frivolous and overly compensatory.

And again, the main issue I have here is that he wasn't trying to subdue her or arrest her, he got splashed with something, he saw someone walking away, and he hit her because he was angry. He should be charged with battery like any other person would be in that situation, period.

Well said. Cops are human.

(10-02-2012 07:21 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If that was a White Cop it would be all over the news. I'm afraid IMATY is right and riots are not out of the question. I think the black cop is hit with water from someone on the left. The girl acted like she did something and whammo. I bet she doesn't shoot silly string at cops anymore.



Check That. Let's see if she gets a financial settlement out of this.

Thanks Mach, my only point was the two circumstances would be treated differently in the eyes of the media and some lefties(not all and I realize that).

Frankly I think they should have rioted to show the police they can't just go off half cocked and hit people, much less women. I'm sick of cops treating citizens like we're beneath them and I'm sick of the race baiting pieces of chit in the world who look for racism when it isn't there. That's as bad IMO as actual racism.

I agree that it is possible that it may have been treated differently if the cop was white, I doubt it since it was more of an emotional (anger) response, but both sides play the game. However the question would be asked if a whit cop would have hit a white woman? In watching the “long walk home” I would guess yes in some cases.

I agree with you that racism, or other hate crimes, are often alleged, when the underlying intent was not due to either. My issue is when people say there are no such things as racism, or hate crimes, and frivolous accusations just feed that rationalization.

I really, really don't like the idea of hate crimes, but I can't sit there and complacently state that someone burning a cross or hanging a noose on a black families yard should only be prosecuted for trespassing. I do think that they are somewhat overused, however, and really should only be used in cases where the procuring cause of the crime was the persons race/sex/religion/etc, and not just because someone gets into a fight and uses a slur during it.

(10-02-2012 11:19 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  I really, really don't like the idea of hate crimes, but I can't sit there and complacently state that someone burning a cross or hanging a noose on a black families yard should only be prosecuted for trespassing. I do think that they are somewhat overused, however, and really should only be used in cases where the procuring cause of the crime was the persons race/sex/religion/etc, and not just because someone gets into a fight and uses a slur during it.

Would not those two actions also be communicating threats and possibly assault in addition to trespassing?

(10-02-2012 09:30 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 07:18 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If that was a White Cop it would be all over the news. I'm afraid IMATY is right and riots are not out of the question. I think the black cop is hit with water from someone on the left. The girl acted like she did something and whammo. I bet she doesn't shoot silly string at cops anymore.



Check That. Let's see if she gets a financial settlement out of this.

I think it's more "when" than "if." And deservedly so, IMO. However I'll be curious to see what the amount is. In cases like this, it's whatever you think it should be, then multiply that by 10 and you get the lawsuit amount.

No, it's not. You just think it is because there is a vested interest by the government and businesses to portray lawsuits as frivolous and overly compensatory.

And again, the main issue I have here is that he wasn't trying to subdue her or arrest her, he got splashed with something, he saw someone walking away, and he hit her because he was angry. He should be charged with battery like any other person would be in that situation, period.

Well said. Cops are human.

What if the liquid was not water...but...urine? I can see myself knocking the hell out of someone I thought dowsed me with piss or spit on me. I guess I am not cut out for Law enforcement. The cop f'd up. I understand his anger..but..he is trained to deal with this.

Not necessarily, no.

(10-02-2012 11:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 09:30 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 07:18 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:47 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If that was a White Cop it would be all over the news. I'm afraid IMATY is right and riots are not out of the question. I think the black cop is hit with water from someone on the left. The girl acted like she did something and whammo. I bet she doesn't shoot silly string at cops anymore.



Check That. Let's see if she gets a financial settlement out of this.

I think it's more "when" than "if." And deservedly so, IMO. However I'll be curious to see what the amount is. In cases like this, it's whatever you think it should be, then multiply that by 10 and you get the lawsuit amount.

No, it's not. You just think it is because there is a vested interest by the government and businesses to portray lawsuits as frivolous and overly compensatory.

And again, the main issue I have here is that he wasn't trying to subdue her or arrest her, he got splashed with something, he saw someone walking away, and he hit her because he was angry. He should be charged with battery like any other person would be in that situation, period.

Well said. Cops are human.

What if the liquid was not water...but...urine? I can see myself knocking the hell out of someone I thought dowsed me with piss or spit on me. I guess I am not cut out for Law enforcement. The cop f'd up. I understand his anger..but..he is trained to deal with this.

Yeah, I actually do give police the benefit of the doubt far more than most people, just because they literally have to deal with the worst of the worst day in and day out. But, this, well...ya it's not ok. The sad thing is, if he had wanted to punish her out of anger, he could have just grabbed her and threw her on the ground for an arrest, and likely gotten away with it. But I'm guessing his different uniform denotes some sort of rank (could be wrong) and he's likely not working the beat and forgot how to deal with situations like that.