(09-30-2012 10:07 AM)RobertN Wrote:  You are spewing the same Republican talking points.

Any one with half a damn brain can see your hero is a POS and a horrible leader. His record speaks for itself. That is what is so sad about the GOP. They are EQUALLY horrible. So horrible that they are going to lose an election to this clown. It is laughable that America has to choose between these two incompetent fools.

(10-01-2012 07:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It comes down to the guy who at least realizes we need to increase the tax rolls or go with the guy who wants to lower taxes, then somehow lower the deficit (Magic? I dunno).

Congratulations on mastering one-dimensional thinking. Bravo.

(10-01-2012 09:15 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(09-30-2012 10:07 AM)RobertN Wrote:  You are spewing the same Republican talking points.

Any one with half a damn brain can see your hero is a POS and a horrible leader. His record speaks for itself. That is what is so sad about the GOP. They are EQUALLY horrible. So horrible that they are going to lose an election to this clown. It is laughable that America has to choose between these two incompetent fools.

I am not sure what you mean by POS – could be any of the following) except the ones that have a PoS)

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/POS

I like Obama – he did try to reach across the aisle and is therefore considered weak. In my opinion he should have vetoed some of the bills until he got his way. He irritated the liberals by not doing so, and by doing so the average voter would have perceived him as a strong leader.

(10-02-2012 05:03 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 07:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It comes down to the guy who at least realizes we need to increase the tax rolls or go with the guy who wants to lower taxes, then somehow lower the deficit (Magic? I dunno).

Congratulations on mastering one-dimensional thinking. Bravo.

So you think that reducing revenue and increasing spending is the way to reduce the deficit?

(10-02-2012 09:22 AM)dcCid Wrote:  Obama – he did try to reach across the aisle

That is a blatant lie.

(10-02-2012 10:55 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 09:22 AM)dcCid Wrote:  Obama – he did try to reach across the aisle

That is a blatant lie.

He did early on, but later on he certainly didn't. Part of the blame can be put on the Republicans though, as they didn't really give him much of an option (though he never was a good politician, he's a better 'leader' than a true politician).

(10-02-2012 10:59 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 10:55 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 09:22 AM)dcCid Wrote:  Obama – he did try to reach across the aisle

That is a blatant lie.

He did early on, but later on he certainly didn't. Part of the blame can be put on the Republicans though, as they didn't really give him much of an option (though he never was a good politician, he's a better 'leader' than a true politician).

If anything, he made more of an effort later than earlier. Early on, he had supermajorities in both houses and didn't need them. At most, all he needed to do was to find one republican that he could bribe and he could have his way on anything. So he called them to the white house and told them to f**k themselves. Telling people to go f**k themselves is not reaching out to them.

It's later on, when he couldn't jam things through the senate without at least republican indifference, he made some minimal efforts, more show than substance, but he had already poisoned the relationships long before.

And he couldn't lead a duck to water. He is way more politician than leader, but he is way more street hustler than either.

Are you kidding me? If he was a street hustler, then we would have gotten a real healthcare bill through.

(10-02-2012 11:08 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Are you kidding me? If he was a street hustler, then we would have gotten a real healthcare bill through.

He couldn't even get his OWN party members to lean more toward socialism than Obamacare turned out to be. And that was even after flat out bribing a bunch of them.

A real healthcare bill would look nothing like Obamacare, for sure. But if by "real healthcare bill" you mean something that would improve healthcare, single-payer is sure as heck not the way to go either.

Exactly, he's not a politician or a street hustler. He does look good in a suit though.

(10-02-2012 11:11 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Exactly, he's not a politician or a street hustler. He does look good in a suit though.

I guess you and I don't have the same definition of "street hustler."

(10-02-2012 09:23 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 05:03 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 07:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It comes down to the guy who at least realizes we need to increase the tax rolls or go with the guy who wants to lower taxes, then somehow lower the deficit (Magic? I dunno).

Congratulations on mastering one-dimensional thinking. Bravo.

So you think that reducing revenue and increasing spending is the way to reduce the deficit?

As people fall off the welfare rolls and begin contributing, consider more payers as opposed to more payers broke.