Apparantly Jack Swarbrick indicated that the ACC opponent in the Orange Bowl would come from a pool including the SEC, Big-10, and Notre Dame. Looks like the Big East is out.


#NotreDame AD Jack Swarbrick: "We are on track to participate in other side of the Orange Bowl along with SEC & Big Ten. Details to follow."


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Yeah, this has been lost in the shuffle today with everything else going on. It's basically playing out the way that I had heard a couple of weeks ago except that the Big 12 isn't going to be part of the pool.

Honestly, I'd be more surprised that the BE got that spot than if they didn't.

Big East never had a real shot at the Orange Bowl.

(09-12-2012 11:25 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Yeah, this has been lost in the shuffle today with everything else going on. It's basically playing out the way that I had heard a couple of weeks ago except that the Big 12 isn't going to be part of the pool.

I figured that was a long shot. I still think our best chance at a decent bowl is to start our own. We may have to finance it ourselves by setting aside a portion of the media contract, but I think the increased national profile of a major bowl is worth the expense. The league race loses national interest if the winner just goes to the Liberty Bowl to play the SEC #8. If successful, a Big East Bowl would keep the Big East as a major conference and maybe make the league some money. At worst, we have to subsidize the bowl a bit, but it still keeps the league as a compelling national story.

Im also intrigued by the possibility that the Fiesta (along with the other "access" bowls) might be able to have tie ins. I was under the impression that this was not a possiblity. We might have a chance to land some sort of tie in with the Fiesta or one of the other "access" bowls---especially if BYU joins as #14.

(09-12-2012 11:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 11:25 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Yeah, this has been lost in the shuffle today with everything else going on. It's basically playing out the way that I had heard a couple of weeks ago except that the Big 12 isn't going to be part of the pool.

I figured that was a long shot. I still think our best shot at a decent bowl is to start our own. We may have to finance it ourselves, but I think the increased national profile of a major bowl is worth the expense.

Im also intrigued by the possibility that the Fiesta (along with the other "access" bowls) might be able to have tie ins. I was under the impression that this was not a possiblity. We might have a chance to land some sort of tie in with the Fiesta or one of the other "access" bowls---especially if BYU joins as #14.

Who would play against the Big East in this bowl game?

The Fiesta Bowl is not a good fit for most BE teams.

(09-12-2012 11:39 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 11:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 11:25 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Yeah, this has been lost in the shuffle today with everything else going on. It's basically playing out the way that I had heard a couple of weeks ago except that the Big 12 isn't going to be part of the pool.

I figured that was a long shot. I still think our best shot at a decent bowl is to start our own. We may have to finance it ourselves, but I think the increased national profile of a major bowl is worth the expense.

Im also intrigued by the possibility that the Fiesta (along with the other "access" bowls) might be able to have tie ins. I was under the impression that this was not a possiblity. We might have a chance to land some sort of tie in with the Fiesta or one of the other "access" bowls---especially if BYU joins as #14.

Who would play against the Big East in this bowl game?

The Fiesta Bowl is not a good fit for most BE teams.

The opponent would depend on how much the Big East Bowl could pay. I think the best bang for the buck is the Pac-12. The Pac-12 #2 currently goes to the Alamo Bowl. The Big East could get the Pac12 #2 for about 3 million per team (thats a total bowl payout of 6 million).

You are correct, the Fiesta wouldnt be a great fit for most Big East teams. The Fiesta would likely have to be a tie-in for western Big East champs. It would also only be good in certain years due to the rotating nature of the semi-finals. We might be able to arrange a similar deal for an eastern champ in one of the other "access" bowls. Honestly, Im not even sure if thats possible---up until a week or two ago I would have said the access bowls cant have tie-ins, but it seems that this detail is yet to be decided.

Who is the ACC and Orange Bowl going to blame for bad ratings once the Big East isn't their most frequent opponent... the only saving grace for the Orange is the move back to New Years from non-holiday weeknight hell.

I just don't understand how having our conference champ playing from a pool of Notre Dame (not often ranked high), and a 4th place SEC team or 3rd place Big 10 team [considering members of those conferences will likely have playoff teams and their own conference champion tie-in bowl spot to fill and the other access bowls (who will have better revenue splits than the ACC controlled Orange] is better than playing a conference champion.

So our ACC champion losing to potentially a 3rd, 4th, or 5th place conference finisher is better than potentially losing to another conference champion? I'm not sure I like taking a middle of the road team over say the highest ranked other conference champion.... At least it'd be champions most years and not a team possibly ranked 5th out of 12 from another power conference!

I am wondering if the NBE can get a highly paid bowl game against the highest ranked non-AQ (Or whatever the hell it would be called)?

(09-13-2012 12:07 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  I am wondering if the NBE can get a highly paid bowl game against the highest ranked non-AQ (Or whatever the hell it would be called)?

We pretty much already do that...as one of our weaker bowls. We send our #5 team to play the CUSA champ in the Liberty Bowl. I dont see that as a suitable option for our champion. Keep in mind that a top 10 non-AQ has a decent shot at a BCS bowl and wouldnt be available for our game....so this would be a pretty weak pool to chose from.

So the OB set up could be this:

ACC Champ vs ND, or B1G champ when Rose is semifinal, or SEC champ when SEC/XII bowl is semifinal, else someone at-large from B1G/SEC if ND not ranked high enough?

Then the Big East should set up a bowl for its champion to host the XII champ when the SEC/XII bowl is a semifinal, or the PAC champ when the Rose is a semifinal, or the ACC CHamp when the Orange is a semifinal.

The obvious question is: what the hell are the Fiesta and the loser of the Champions bowl sweepstakes doing (Jerry Bowl/Sugar)? Who the hell are they going to trot out? - SEC 3 vs PAC 2/Big 12 2 - who the F cares about that. How is it a better tv draw to have ND play an ACC team they played the year before or two southern schools go at it for most of the country? I'm failing to see how it is financially advantageous to further lock down these bowls in a tv world that pays these bills not traveling fans and Jimmy Joe Bob bringing the family to the waffle house before going to the petting zoo on dec 30th.

I guess I'm not sure why ESPN doesn't want, demand a bracket; I guess I don't see why it has been shown that intersectional matchups move ratings in college sports.

Most people will watch a regular season home stadium game in another part of the country if there is a matchup there and pagentry, will watch an intersectional involving a team touching their area at a neutral field during the first week, but do people in the west, midwest, noreast really want to see georgia tech run the option against an sec team that has lost 2 or 3 conf. games? Hell, if I'm the Fiesta I'm not tying much down and see if we can matchup an 10-2 wisky or oregon versus a darling like those boise or tcu teams or whomever takes their place.

If I want to watch non top 5 florida state play auburn I want to see that in their home stadium, I sure as hell am not going to give a crap about that at 5 pacific on jan 1st.

(09-12-2012 11:31 PM)fresco Wrote:  Big East never had a real shot at the Orange Bowl.

Agree.