Its not a matter of going three hours without one chief, I usually go 7 days between them.
Again though, my choice of when and where I drink isnt germaine to the personal attack you just pulled or the subject of the thread.
Ive used common sense and logic to provide a stance on enrollment issues as well as why tge done shouldnt be used as well as a solution.
You and grandpa 66 have focused on a personal attack, and an effort to promote an agenda that will not help the goal of bringing championship level scholarship football to ETSU.
Its easier forvyou two to regurgitate talking points that focus on negative rather than unite behind NEW LEADERSHIP that will get ETSU where it needs to be.

(09-19-2012 11:24 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  The overrall mood of a city/state can be determined by how its' teams perform, which can also lead to increased tax revenue.

Negligible. I fail to see how Belmont killing ETSU and going to the NCAA's 5 out of the last 7 years has added anything to the state coffers. When discussing "tax revenue," Tennessee is better served by events like Bonnaroo and CMA Music Fest.

(09-19-2012 08:53 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  rather than unite behind NEW LEADERSHIP that will get ETSU where it needs to be.

I'll hold-off on uniting behind new leadership until I get a clear picture as to the direction it's taking us. I'm not stupid enough to waste a vote on "hope." For the record, I held-off on uniting behind Stanton for quite a while....my patience proved correct. Just because someone is a decision maker doesn't mean that they'll make good decisions.

(09-19-2012 09:03 PM)BucSinceTheSixties Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 11:24 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  The overrall mood of a city/state can be determined by how its' teams perform, which can also lead to increased tax revenue.

Negligible. I fail to see how Belmont killing ETSU and going to the NCAA's 5 out of the last 7 years has added anything to the state coffers. When discussing "tax revenue," Tennessee is better served by events like Bonnaroo and CMA Music Fest.

I live here. I see how the city reacts when its' teams do well. Right now, people are pissed off. The Titans, Vols and Commodores all stink. The Predators are locked out.
TSU hasn't done anything other than splitting its' schedule up between the Hole and LP Field, plus TSU does one hell of a job alienating itself from the majority of the population.
When Belmont has been successful, people have been excited for them, they have moved the needle on the radio stations down here. It's not helping their attendance at the rate that it should, but they were playing teams that folks weren't familiar with.
And yes, the effect on hometown teams increasing spending is a common sense thing. Team wins, people go out and celebrate. They buy shirts, they go to more games, at the games they buy more food, programs, foam fingers for the kids. Yes, winning makes a difference in the economic impact of a city. Think anyone would care about hockey here if the Predators stunk? No. But they win, and everyday you see kids wearing the shirts, parents are buying the jerseys, attendance is up, ratings are up, etc... It does make a difference.
If you need a collegiate example, do you think folks would drive to Boone to watch App if they sucked? Hell no, If Appalachian had regular losing records they'd be Western Carolina. Instead, 30,000 people head up the mountain 6-8 times in the fall, book hotels, bed in breakfasts, and whatever else. They buy food in the grocery stores and restaurants, they buy the merch, they do all the things that matter because folks are ENTERTAINED. The team wins, people have fun and GASP! They EVEN DRINK ALCOHOL! They must all be alcoholics in Boone, not making it three hours without having a sip of bourbon, scotch, whiskey or for the diabetic, Vodka.
You're flat wrong.
And again, you still haven't answered the question with fact on other factors screwing with enrollment growth at universities.
You and gramps continue to ***** and moan, attack me making false allegations that I drive drunk and have a drinking problem, keep spewing the same two lines about 12 million dollars and the tennis coach. it's working so well and people are certainly ready to listen to more of that.

Wow, this discussion has degenerated quite rapidly.

Lover is of course correct: You have a better team, people spend money to support it. Hell, since the entire tax base of Tennessee is based on sales tax, that can provide help to everyone. Let's just say it's a "win-win."

Yeah, I drink a beer or two while watching football games. Look forward to it, in fact. And I know it's blasphemous, but I even have a couple of beers pre-gaming for Bucs basketball & soccer games.... Guess I got a problem too.

But c'mon, in Boone, there are other types of extracurricular activities that become involved... the kind that results in a person driving 4 in a 45 zone.

(09-19-2012 08:53 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Its not a matter of going three hours without one chief, I usually go 7 days between them.
Again though, my choice of when and where I drink isnt germaine to the personal attack you just pulled or the subject of the thread.
Ive used common sense and logic to provide a stance on enrollment issues as well as why tge done shouldnt be used as well as a solution.
You and grandpa 66 have focused on a personal attack, and an effort to promote an agenda that will not help the goal of bringing championship level scholarship football to ETSU.
Its easier forvyou two to regurgitate talking points that focus on negative rather than unite behind NEW LEADERSHIP that will get ETSU where it needs to be.

the %$@#^* german's got nothin' to do with it.....

(09-20-2012 04:36 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 09:03 PM)BucSinceTheSixties Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 11:24 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  The overrall mood of a city/state can be determined by how its' teams perform, which can also lead to increased tax revenue.

Negligible. I fail to see how Belmont killing ETSU and going to the NCAA's 5 out of the last 7 years has added anything to the state coffers. When discussing "tax revenue," Tennessee is better served by events like Bonnaroo and CMA Music Fest.

When Belmont has been successful, people have been excited for them, they have moved the needle on the radio stations down here. And yes, the effect on hometown teams increasing spending is a common sense thing. Team wins, people go out and celebrate. They buy shirts, they go to more games, at the games they buy more food, programs, foam fingers for the kids. Yes, winning makes a difference in the economic impact of a city.

So what you're saying is that Belmont going to the NCAA's makes more money for Nashville than the CMA Music Fesitival? After all of their trips to the NCAA, what percentage of people are walking around that town sporting Belmont t-shirts (other than its students)? I would be willing to bet that the average sports shirt in that town is UT related.

(09-20-2012 04:36 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 09:03 PM)BucSinceTheSixties Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 11:24 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  The overrall mood of a city/state can be determined by how its' teams perform, which can also lead to increased tax revenue.

Negligible. I fail to see how Belmont killing ETSU and going to the NCAA's 5 out of the last 7 years has added anything to the state coffers. When discussing "tax revenue," Tennessee is better served by events like Bonnaroo and CMA Music Fest.

I live here. I see how the city reacts when its' teams do well. Right now, people are pissed off. The Titans, Vols and Commodores all stink. The Predators are locked out.
TSU hasn't done anything other than splitting its' schedule up between the Hole and LP Field, plus TSU does one hell of a job alienating itself from the majority of the population.
When Belmont has been successful, people have been excited for them, they have moved the needle on the radio stations down here. It's not helping their attendance at the rate that it should, but they were playing teams that folks weren't familiar with.
And yes, the effect on hometown teams increasing spending is a common sense thing. Team wins, people go out and celebrate. They buy shirts, they go to more games, at the games they buy more food, programs, foam fingers for the kids. Yes, winning makes a difference in the economic impact of a city. Think anyone would care about hockey here if the Predators stunk? No. But they win, and everyday you see kids wearing the shirts, parents are buying the jerseys, attendance is up, ratings are up, etc... It does make a difference.
If you need a collegiate example, do you think folks would drive to Boone to watch App if they sucked? Hell no, If Appalachian had regular losing records they'd be Western Carolina. Instead, 30,000 people head up the mountain 6-8 times in the fall, book hotels, bed in breakfasts, and whatever else. They buy food in the grocery stores and restaurants, they buy the merch, they do all the things that matter because folks are ENTERTAINED. The team wins, people have fun and GASP! They EVEN DRINK ALCOHOL! They must all be alcoholics in Boone, not making it three hours without having a sip of bourbon, scotch, whiskey or for the diabetic, Vodka.
You're flat wrong.
And again, you still haven't answered the question with fact on other factors screwing with enrollment growth at universities.
You and gramps continue to ***** and moan, attack me making false allegations that I drive drunk and have a drinking problem, keep spewing the same two lines about 12 million dollars and the tennis coach. it's working so well and people are certainly ready to listen to more of that.

With all your talk about tax revenues and the such, it occured to me that you've never worked in the free market. How long have you been living off of hard-working tax payers while squirreled away in some government gig?

(09-20-2012 04:36 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  They EVEN DRINK ALCOHOL! They must all be alcoholics in Boone, not making it three hours without having a sip of bourbon, scotch, whiskey or for the diabetic, Vodka.

I don't begrudge anyone a drink from time to time. Except, of course, when they illegaly do it on State of Tennessee property and blab about it on the world-wide web like it's the thing everyone's doing. No thanks. I keep my drinking private and I never do it around my sporting events. I prefer to enjoy watching sports with my full attention and non-impared mental capacities. If you feel the need to nip-at-the-bottle during something you paid money to see, then that's your problem. If you do it in a public space where it's PROHIBITED and kids are around, then your bad judgement and inconsideration becomes my problem. The one thing that's worse than sitting beside someone with bad underarm odor is sitting beside some rose-nose yelling with biting breath at the officials.

(09-20-2012 04:36 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  And again, you still haven't answered the question with fact on other factors screwing with enrollment growth at universities.

I could say it's the down economy or the Dodd-Frank legislation that's hampered the lending industry. But, the more I think about it, kids these days don't want to go to college and attend sporting events while sitting next to some old, fat alumnus sipping from a flask.

The latter doesn't stop them at any other university that has a good football team around the country, probably because most of the students have their own flask.

Yeah, it's the Dodd-Frank legislation that increased regulation, not the outright millions of dollars of cuts to those pesky Pell Grants & student loans.

I don't think I could guess in a million years what political party you belong to.

(09-20-2012 09:26 PM)slappywhite Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 08:53 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Its not a matter of going three hours without one chief, I usually go 7 days between them.
Again though, my choice of when and where I drink isnt germaine to the personal attack you just pulled or the subject of the thread.
Ive used common sense and logic to provide a stance on enrollment issues as well as why tge done shouldnt be used as well as a solution.
You and grandpa 66 have focused on a personal attack, and an effort to promote an agenda that will not help the goal of bringing championship level scholarship football to ETSU.
Its easier forvyou two to regurgitate talking points that focus on negative rather than unite behind NEW LEADERSHIP that will get ETSU where it needs to be.

the %$@#^* german's got nothin' to do with it.....

Thats the funniest thing youve ever said. Well done.