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RE: BIG EAST CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
(08-30-2012 10:56 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 10:53 PM)KingFu Wrote:  Now that the new commissioner Mike Aresco has commented on a conference championship game, where should it be?

My vote would be for Metlife Stadium in NY. There's not a bigger TV market than NY City and a Big East conference championship would bring in a big crowd both in attendance and television.

If not NY, I would go with Dallas at Cowboys Stadium.This would be a good location because of having teams out west. The winner of the east division and the west meeting in mid America for the championship.

Another option could be to rotate it between NY and Dallas.

Or the home of the higher ranked team.

Home of the higher ranked team - no doubt about it, especially at this point in time. The Big East is too spread out for a neutral site, and besides, we want the fans of our two best teams to have enough money left at the end of the season to travel well to their bowl games.
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RE: BIG EAST CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
(08-31-2012 07:13 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 11:58 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  We are too spread out to host the game at a neutral site. Can you imagine Boise vs USF playing in NY? We would be lucky to get 20k at that game. However, if played at Boise it would be a sell out and at USF there would be at least 40k-50k in the stands.

USF regularly gets 40k for games so if the championship game is played in Tampa it would easily sell out. Not sure if that was a swipe at USF or you not tremendously underestimating attendance.

It wasn't meant to be a swipe, I said at least 40k-50k, meaning you could at least get your average attendance. As goodnightfl mentioned the point is it will be a much larger crowd than if the game was played in New York or Dallas.

I thought I was being nice by suggesting that USF could make a championship game 03-wink
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RE: BIG EAST CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
(08-30-2012 10:53 PM)KingFu Wrote:  Now that the new commissioner Mike Aresco has commented on a conference championship game, where should it be?

My vote would be for Metlife Stadium in NY. There's not a bigger TV market than NY City and a Big East conference championship would bring in a big crowd both in attendance and television.

If not NY, I would go with Dallas at Cowboys Stadium.This would be a good location because of having teams out west. The winner of the east division and the west meeting in mid America for the championship.

Another option could be to rotate it between NY and Dallas.

Personally I love the idea of having a set home for the championship game, or even a rotation of 3 or 4 cities, but at least at this point in the new Big East’s existence I don’t believe it’s in the best interest of the conference.

What scenario will put the most people into the stadium for the game? IMO that’s the number 1 priority and I believe based on that the best choice would be the home field of the team with the better record. I agree with what has been said, with a national TV contract the coverage will be the same if the game is at Louisville, Rutgers, or Boise State.

It’s asking a lot of the local fans base to incur the travel costs of going on the road to support their team especially in today’s tough economy. The time of year being the holiday season extra disposable income for many people will be at a premium, and the fact that those 2 teams will most likely be playing in a high profile bowl game just a few weeks later the team will need the fan base to travel again a second time to support the team.

I love the idea of a permanent home for the championship game, I just don’t think it’s in the best interest of the conference at this point.
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I thought this was settled at the Spring meetings as home field advantage...
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RE: BIG EAST CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
(08-30-2012 11:00 PM)KingFu Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 10:56 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 10:53 PM)KingFu Wrote:  Now that the new commissioner Mike Aresco has commented on a conference championship game, where should it be?

My vote would be for Metlife Stadium in NY. There's not a bigger TV market than NY City and a Big East conference championship would bring in a big crowd both in attendance and television.

If not NY, I would go with Dallas at Cowboys Stadium.This would be a good location because of having teams out west. The winner of the east division and the west meeting in mid America for the championship.

Another option could be to rotate it between NY and Dallas.

Or the home of the higher ranked team.

No! Going that route would be a BAD decision. The Conference USA does that now and it draw very little interest. Last year was an exception due to Houston being a BCS buster that busted its own bubble by losing to USM. 03-banghead

You want to have a neutral site to build media hype. You don't get that being on campus for a conference title game. This is exactly why the SEC, Big 12, ACC and others don't play their on campus sites.

Not a very informed opinion:

CUSA Championship Game "Interest":
2005: Tulsa @ UCF - 51,978 (Citrus Bowl)
2006: Southern Miss @ Houston - 31,818 (near capacity)
2007: Tulsa @ UCF - 44,128 (on-campus)
2008: ECU @ Tulsa - 22,740 (no excuse, this was bad)
2009: Houston @ ECU - 33,048 (weather SUCKED for this game if I remember right)
2010: SMU @ UCF - 41,045
2011: Southern Miss @ Houston - 32,413 (at capacity)

On-campus is the ONLY way to go for the Big East. To even consider a neutral site at this point is sheer lunacy. Asking fans to travel twice in a month during the holiday season is asking a LOT, especially when fans can't plan for the championship game in advance.
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Not arguing here, but if it's so beneficial to have it on the better team's campus, then why does the SEC, Big 12, ACC all play at a neutral site?
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This has already been decided back in May at the BE spring meetings. At the stadium of the team with the best conference record, else highest ranked team. The conference is too spread out to do anything else. PAC does it, as does CUSA. The B1G had to pay people to go to their game last season. The ACC seems to have found a good home in Charlotte for theirs and the SEC has a good spot in Atlanta for theirs.

Seeing as how the BE might not even have geographic divisions, setting up a CCG in a neutral site would be a bad idea.
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(08-31-2012 12:15 PM)KingFu Wrote:  Not arguing here, but if it's so beneficial to have it on the better team's campus, then why does the SEC, Big 12, ACC all play at a neutral site?

All of those conferences are more compact. The ACC had moved theirs around and had dismal results until they settled on Charlotte. The B1G had to pay people to fill the stands last season. The SEC does it in Atlanta, which is failry close for the majority of their teams. The Big East has no such hub.
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RE: BIG EAST CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Games should be at home of highest ranked team. There should be no debate about this. It will also give higher ranked team a better chance to win and represent the conference in playoff or big bowl game.

BE definitely don't want to try the neutral site thing right now. It would be a huge mistake.

We don't want to end up like the ACC. Here is a reminder:

ACC championship game:

[Image: AccChampionshipGame.jpg]
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(08-31-2012 12:15 PM)KingFu Wrote:  Not arguing here, but if it's so beneficial to have it on the better team's campus, then why does the SEC, Big 12, ACC all plaThey ally at a neutral site?

All three use a neutral site that is within driving distance for the majority ofthe teams, which makes it easier for fans to make plans with one or two weeks' notice.
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Home of higher ranked team.
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(08-31-2012 01:53 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(08-31-2012 12:15 PM)KingFu Wrote:  Not arguing here, but if it's so beneficial to have it on the better team's campus, then why does the SEC, Big 12, ACC all play at a neutral site?

All of those conferences are more compact. The ACC had moved theirs around and had dismal results until they settled on Charlotte. The B1G had to pay people to fill the stands last season. The SEC does it in Atlanta, which is failry close for the majority of their teams. The Big East has no such hub.

Yeah...its not hard to figure out...as some SEC teams draw more fans to practices (Spring practice games) than many teams draw for REAL games in the fall.

Then add how how close so many of the school's fan bases are to Atlanta:

Florida: 5 hour drive
South Carolina: 3 hour drive
Georgia: No drive to 1 hour drive
Tennessee: 3.5 hour drive
Auburn & Alabama (most reside only 2-3 hours away from ATL)
LSU: 7-8 hour drive

PS. No need to figure out how far Lexington, KY is to ATL...as odds are UK will never play in the SEC Championship GAme. (Now when the SEC Basketball Tourn is in ATL....20,000 plus UK fans show up so at least UK fans know where ATL is)

Even when the ACC moved from Jacksonville to Tampa...their two championship games drew actual crowds of less than 30,000.

CUSA and the Pac-12...and soon to be Big East have the right combination that works for them...and thats with the #1 team in the conf hosting the game.
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Home of the highest ranked team.

You can't have a situation where SMU wins a division and the fans are expected to travel to NYC for a championship game, and then travel to a bowl game (perhaps in Miami) less than a month later.

The highest ranked team deserves the home field advantage and they can fill up their own stadium for a championship game.
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