Right now, the majority of the country has three candidates on the presidential ballot:

*Barack Obama (Democrat) - incumbent
*Mitt Romney (Republican)
*Gary Johnson (Libertarian)

Poll will be up for ease of voting.

i dont know if theres any 'peer-reviewed' research on this or not, but 1 thing ive noticed over the yrs is how much more support libertarians seem to have from the IT-types and the "online community" (people with ready access & frequent use of internet), compared to the general population overall

i wonder, why is that

(08-29-2012 06:10 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  i dont know if theres any 'peer-reviewed' research on this or not, but 1 thing ive noticed over the yrs is how much more support libertarians seem to have from the IT-types and the "online community" (people with ready access & frequent use of internet), compared to the general population overall

i wonder, why is that

Better education/better access to information?

Anyone but Obama, I'd even take Jimmy Carter.

(08-29-2012 06:15 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 06:10 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  i dont know if theres any 'peer-reviewed' research on this or not, but 1 thing ive noticed over the yrs is how much more support libertarians seem to have from the IT-types and the "online community" (people with ready access & frequent use of internet), compared to the general population overall

i wonder, why is that

Better education/better access to information?

that would be flattering if true

and maybe it is

(08-29-2012 06:10 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  i dont know if theres any 'peer-reviewed' research on this or not, but 1 thing ive noticed over the yrs is how much more support libertarians seem to have from the IT-types and the "online community" (people with ready access & frequent use of internet), compared to the general population overall

i wonder, why is that

We tend to be younger therefore socially liberal, yet are producers and therefore fiscally conservative. Throw in with that we are well versed in how to search the internet for relevant and factual information and I think it is the prefect storm for tech people and nerdy sorts to be libertarians.

(08-29-2012 06:10 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  i dont know if theres any 'peer-reviewed' research on this or not, but 1 thing ive noticed over the yrs is how much more support libertarians seem to have from the IT-types and the "online community" (people with ready access & frequent use of internet), compared to the general population overall

i wonder, why is that

Here's my theory: Libertarians are really winning over the younger, and more importantly, curious individuals. These people are more likely to do actual research than to take marching orders IMO.

Rs and Ds (or as my good friend from another board says: c®ackheads and (D)ickheads) usually bring in those who would've been with them with no questions asked anyway.

(08-29-2012 07:06 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Here's my theory: Libertarians are really winning over the younger, and more importantly, curious individuals. These people are more likely to do actual research than to take marching orders IMO.

Nomad if that were the case, then Libertarians should have had votes out the "wazoo" in their primary dates. If that were the case, they would have had the numbers to give RP more than 1 territories popular vote.

I'm sorry, but you cannot convince me that the "GOP Machine" kept voters from going to the polls and voting for RP, if they had really done their research like the Libertarians here would like to happen.

As much as those of you on here would like to think that Libertarians are the new "wave" of politics, look at the numbers, and convince me they're making inroads in national politics.

So if there are that many young Libertarians, then why can't they get better numbers? They do their research and then sit at home and not vote?

Again, I like Johnson (he's been their best candidate in ages), but I'm still leaning Romney...

(08-29-2012 08:10 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 07:06 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Here's my theory: Libertarians are really winning over the younger, and more importantly, curious individuals. These people are more likely to do actual research than to take marching orders IMO.

Nomad if that were the case, then Libertarians should have had votes out the "wazoo" in their primary dates. If that were the case, they would have had the numbers to give RP more than 1 territories popular vote.

I'm sorry, but you cannot convince me that the "GOP Machine" kept voters from going to the polls and voting for RP, if they had really done their research like the Libertarians here would like to happen.

As much as those of you on here would like to think that Libertarians are the new "wave" of politics, look at the numbers, and convince me they're making inroads in national politics.

So if there are that many young Libertarians, then why can't they get better numbers? They do their research and then sit at home and not vote?

Again, I like Johnson (he's been their best candidate in ages), but I'm still leaning Romney...

Not sure about others, but I have no party affiliation. I might change that to Libertarian Party soon though. I live in a closed primary state. I do not have a say in who the republicans nominate. If I was allowed to vote, I would have voted for Ron Paul in the republican primary. I didn't want to join the republicans just to vote. I think a lot of libertarians are independents and face this same kind of thing.

Obama. He keeps the terrorists from attacking. The others are weak on terror.

It's possible, Jug... but I think too many people take the fact that Ron Paul supporters are the most boisterous (which isn't a bad thing when it's someone they support), and just translate it to "We are that many! And we are that influential!"

But my question would be: "I think a lot of libertarians are independents and face this same kind of thing". How many states are closed primaries? (Not knocking, i'm asking legitimately, because I don't know... do they have to see your "party affiliation card" when you go vote?)

When you only get what 3% (I think that was the largest number of votes in terms of %age in a national election) of the popular vote, and then you go around saying the "GOP Machinery/Dem Machinery" is doing it to us.

This year has been the CLOSEST I think Libertarians have been (because you know it's mostly Libertarians who were voting for Ron Paul in open primaries), but you still only get 1 territory in national voting, and then say it's the fault of the "Machine". I just see people who are wanting to (IMO) blame someone else for their inability to get bigger numbers rather than looking at their own constituency they say they represent.

(That's not aimed at those who are Libertarians who do go out and try to get people to vote...)

what is it about pictures of romney with a mustache
what does that mean?

firmbizzle's signature for example

(08-29-2012 08:37 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  what is it about pictures of romney with a mustache
what does that mean?

He looks better with a mustache. It fits him.

well i guess that explains it, then

he looks mexican/latino in that picture

He looks like he's got great deal on a vehicle for me. More details at 6pm on Channel 4 news.

(08-29-2012 08:10 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 07:06 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Here's my theory: Libertarians are really winning over the younger, and more importantly, curious individuals. These people are more likely to do actual research than to take marching orders IMO.

Nomad if that were the case, then Libertarians should have had votes out the "wazoo" in their primary dates. If that were the case, they would have had the numbers to give RP more than 1 territories popular vote.

I'm sorry, but you cannot convince me that the "GOP Machine" kept voters from going to the polls and voting for RP, if they had really done their research like the Libertarians here would like to happen.

As much as those of you on here would like to think that Libertarians are the new "wave" of politics, look at the numbers, and convince me they're making inroads in national politics.

So if there are that many young Libertarians, then why can't they get better numbers? They do their research and then sit at home and not vote?

Again, I like Johnson (he's been their best candidate in ages), but I'm still leaning Romney...

I didn't say that he had ALL the younger voters. Just why the Libertarians at large seem more ITish than the other two.

(08-29-2012 08:43 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  well i guess that explains it, then

he looks mexican/latino in that picture

He is Mexican. His family is from Mexico. They fled America because they didn't believe in the values of America.

(08-29-2012 08:21 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Obama. He keeps the terrorists from attacking. The others are weak on terror.

The guys with the butterfly nets are waiting for you.

None of the above..

But if there was a gun to my head? Johnson..

(08-29-2012 10:42 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 08:21 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Obama. He keeps the terrorists from attacking. The others are weak on terror.

The guys with the butterfly nets are waiting for you.

You think that it's easy to beat the terrorists.