Chill Brian, I don't think he meant to slight UH as much as you're making it out to be.

(08-29-2012 12:14 PM)Brian Reading Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 11:59 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  And you got kicked the **** out of the promised land, along with Rice.

Sure did, Rice, SMU, TCU, and Houston were all cast aside. Know the story behind this, or what? Houston's situation was not at all like Temple's.

Quote:Which is worse, to be East CArolina that never had a shot, or to be an ex-SWC school who had a place in the elite and couldn't hold it?

I like our spot much better, thanks. Especially if you knew about the background of the demise of the SWC and formation of the Big 12.

The CFA was breaking up and conferences were striking their own TV deals with networks. The Big 8 and SWC both covered uncomfortably small population bases. A Big 8-SWC alliance was kicked around, until some Big 8 folks talked to the network folks, and found out that the only TV value in the SWC was either UT, or UT and A&M, depending on who's telling the story. Texas politicos got wind of it, and more or less blackmailed UT and A&M into bringing Baylor and Tech along, since Baylor and Tech alums held most of the state government power positions. Everyone else got left in the dust.

That about right?

Or to summarize that story another way, the SWC leftovers got kicked out of the power elite because, in the new era of college football on TV, they weren't pulling their weight.

Due to a combination of Houston and SMU's gradual rebuilding and luck, you have another shot at making it into the power elite. But it's ridiculous to talk and act like Houston is resuming their natural place in the CFB universe.

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Quote:Unlike you, the teams that left didn't leave to get away from Louisville.

Sure, like Baylor and Iowa State were teams that the Big 12 would rather associate themselves with...

No, the idea was to dump the small-enrollment, small-fanbase SWC schools. Baylor and Iowa State got lucky--that just means that Texas would rather be in a league with just Baylor (and now TCU) than with Baylor, TCU, SMU, Houston and Rice.

Quote:Don't expect anyone to be impressed that you were in a power conference once-upon-a-time. So was Tulane, for all the good it does you or them.)

Again, this isn't really the same thing here. Tulane left the SEC in 1966, while the SWC ended in 1996. Not quite sure how Tulane did when they were there either, [/quote]

You don't know, and you don't care, because it doesn't matter. That's my point. Just like no one not wearing Cougars gear cares about what Houston did in the SWC.

Quote:but Houston and SMU were no pushovers in our league. I think you need to do more homework.

Why? Are your SWC championships going to turn into 50,000 fans at the game and hundreds of thousands watching at home?

I have a brilliant friggin' idea. We're all in this new conference together. We have been relentlessly bombarded from the outside for almost a year now, ever since the last teams announced they were leaving.

I don't give a damn who's left over that feels slighted, or who is incoming that feels defensive. I only care that this conference gets its act together, and gets the best deal it can, for TV, BCS distribution and bowl access. It is what it is.

We have the best possible team in place to help us, which is perhaps a first for this conference, and I'm confident in their ability to get us the best deal the market will bear, for all the things important to us.

To keep sniping back and forth at each other is futile, and frankly, stupid. IF you want to brag about how your school is better than everybody else, or gripe about somebody else in the BE, don't do it here! Stop and think first. There are plenty of targets outside this conference at which to aim your rhetoric, or you can do it on your own school's board.

IF your team gets invited elsewhere, and it's announced in the media, then great. But until then, everybody is equal, and we should all be on the same side.

IF not, then this forum will be mostly a damn waste of time. This thread is a perfect example.

+2 (I should be able to give three at this point, but oh well).

(08-29-2012 12:59 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  Chill Brian, I don't think he meant to slight Uh as much as you're making it out to be.

Yes he did, a slight and much more.

Chill, this talk will not stop unless the Big TV contract is put in place and theNew Big East shares equally with the supposed Power 5 in playoff revenues. It is the only way it will stop!

(08-29-2012 01:13 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 12:59 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  Chill Brian, I don't think he meant to slight Uh as much as you're making it out to be.

Yes he did, a slight and much more.

Yeah...especially since it was his 15th or 20th time doing just that...(no one believed he didn't mean it because he's done it over and over and over again in the past).

(08-29-2012 01:17 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Chill, this talk will not stop unless the Big TV contract is put in place and theNew Big East shares equally with the supposed Power 5 in playoff revenues. It is the only way it will stop!

Why, Wilkie? Are we going to be subjected to this every day? We KNOW you want Louisville to leave, if we don't get ACC money and a full BCS share and a contract bowl. But nothing is going to change before November, at the earliest, probably. Reminding us every day just aggravates people.

Guess what? Memphis would like to leave, if we don't get those things, too. So would every other school in here. But to keep starting threads in here that dwell on what Louisville wants, is a waste of time, and just irritates other people for no reason. We all know it already.

You can do whatever you want, of course. I'm just making a reasonable suggestion. It's no fun to come in here every day and read this stuff. It's the same stuff, over and over and over. We got it already.

Talk about that stuff on your own board. Doing it here is rude, IMO. Let's talk about Aresco, or Bevilacqua, what the contract might be, or what our bowl prospects are, or how everybody is doing in football, or ANYTHING besides "Louisville is great, it's the premier school in the league now, the BE sucks, we want to go to the B12, we want to go to the ACC," etc.

Please. I'm not asking you to leave. It's been your board longer than mine. But I'm not a newbie either. I've been going to Tiger games longer than you have been alive, probably. And our teams have been in conferences together for the majority of that time.

So, please, let's be polite, and talk about something other than the fact that the rest of us are ugly, and you want a divorce. Thanks.

(08-29-2012 02:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 01:17 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Chill, this talk will not stop unless the Big TV contract is put in place and theNew Big East shares equally with the supposed Power 5 in playoff revenues. It is the only way it will stop!

Why, Wilkie? Are we going to be subjected to this every day? We KNOW you want Louisville to leave, if we don't get ACC money and a full BCS share and a contract bowl. But nothing is going to change before November, at the earliest, probably. Reminding us every day just aggravates people.

Guess what? Memphis would like to leave, if we don't get those things, too. So would every other school in here. But to keep starting threads in here that dwell on what Louisville wants, is a waste of time, and just irritates other people for no reason. We all know it already.

You can do whatever you want, of course. I'm just making a reasonable suggestion. It's no fun to come in here every day and read this stuff. It's the same stuff, over and over and over. We got it already.

Talk about that stuff on your own board. Doing it here is rude, IMO. Let's talk about Aresco, or Bevilacqua, what the contract might be, or what our bowl prospects are, or how everybody is doing in football, or ANYTHING besides "Louisville is great, it's the premier school in the league now, the BE sucks, we want to go to the B12, we want to go to the ACC," etc.

Please. I'm not asking you to leave. It's been your board longer than mine. But I'm not a newbie either. I've been going to Tiger games longer than you have been alive, probably. And our teams have been in conferences together for the majority of that time.

So, please, let's be polite, and talk about something other than the fact that the rest of us are ugly, and you want a divorce. Thanks.

Just FYI, polite approach rarely works with certain fans of this fanbase. They are one of the most delusional fanbase with biggest false sense of entitlement out there. The most funny thing is this school is actually with its peers in the nBE. UCONN and RU are the two schools don't quite fit the profile of the nBE yet we are not the ones who go around posting this crap everyday. In the B12, this school would be the worst academically and does not fit at all. Talk of ACC for this school is just flat out pipe dream. They turned down WVU, anyone really think they will look at this school? My only wish is for certain poster of this school to keep their shiet to their own board. I only repeated this like 1000x in the past yet the same guy keep coming here to spam the same crap.

Otherwise, a great post and glad you are on the board. We certainly could use more posters like you.

(08-29-2012 02:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 01:17 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Chill, this talk will not stop unless the Big TV contract is put in place and theNew Big East shares equally with the supposed Power 5 in playoff revenues. It is the only way it will stop!

Why, Wilkie? Are we going to be subjected to this every day? We KNOW you want Louisville to leave, if we don't get ACC money and a full BCS share and a contract bowl. But nothing is going to change before November, at the earliest, probably. Reminding us every day just aggravates people.

Guess what? Memphis would like to leave, if we don't get those things, too. So would every other school in here. But to keep starting threads in here that dwell on what Louisville wants, is a waste of time, and just irritates other people for no reason. We all know it already.

You can do whatever you want, of course. I'm just making a reasonable suggestion. It's no fun to come in here every day and read this stuff. It's the same stuff, over and over and over. We got it already.

Talk about that stuff on your own board. Doing it here is rude, IMO. Let's talk about Aresco, or Bevilacqua, what the contract might be, or what our bowl prospects are, or how everybody is doing in football, or ANYTHING besides "Louisville is great, it's the premier school in the league now, the BE sucks, we want to go to the B12, we want to go to the ACC," etc.

Please. I'm not asking you to leave. It's been your board longer than mine. But I'm not a newbie either. I've been going to Tiger games longer than you have been alive, probably. And our teams have been in conferences together for the majority of that time.

So, please, let's be polite, and talk about something other than the fact that the rest of us are ugly, and you want a divorce. Thanks.

No problem, the board is all yours!

(08-29-2012 01:17 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Chill, this talk will not stop unless the Big TV contract is put in place and theNew Big East shares equally with the supposed Power 5 in playoff revenues. It is the only way it will stop!

One (tv contract) has nothing to do with the other (board decorum), as one doesn't have a license to insult just because a tv contract has yet to be signed.

(08-29-2012 02:29 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 02:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 01:17 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Chill, this talk will not stop unless the Big TV contract is put in place and theNew Big East shares equally with the supposed Power 5 in playoff revenues. It is the only way it will stop!

Why, Wilkie? Are we going to be subjected to this every day? We KNOW you want Louisville to leave, if we don't get ACC money and a full BCS share and a contract bowl. But nothing is going to change before November, at the earliest, probably. Reminding us every day just aggravates people.

Guess what? Memphis would like to leave, if we don't get those things, too. So would every other school in here. But to keep starting threads in here that dwell on what Louisville wants, is a waste of time, and just irritates other people for no reason. We all know it already.

You can do whatever you want, of course. I'm just making a reasonable suggestion. It's no fun to come in here every day and read this stuff. It's the same stuff, over and over and over. We got it already.

Talk about that stuff on your own board. Doing it here is rude, IMO. Let's talk about Aresco, or Bevilacqua, what the contract might be, or what our bowl prospects are, or how everybody is doing in football, or ANYTHING besides "Louisville is great, it's the premier school in the league now, the BE sucks, we want to go to the B12, we want to go to the ACC," etc.

Please. I'm not asking you to leave. It's been your board longer than mine. But I'm not a newbie either. I've been going to Tiger games longer than you have been alive, probably. And our teams have been in conferences together for the majority of that time.

So, please, let's be polite, and talk about something other than the fact that the rest of us are ugly, and you want a divorce. Thanks.

No problem, the board is all yours!

That's no way to act. I cannot believe you refuse to see the other side of this.

For the record I have only glanced thru this threa,d but all UofL fans do not share such a holier than though outlook.

You Know truthfully at this point All I want is to Stomp UK's ASS this Sunday. I could not give a Flyin' "F" about the Big 12 anymore. They seem Way more arrogant than the ACC. I want Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Houston, USF, Rutgers, UConn,UCF,SMU,BSU,SDSU,Temple, Navy, and Yes Syracuse and Pittsburgh to go out this Weekend and also kick some ASS. Yeah I said ASS ! Enough Family Fued , it's time for Buisness and Fun to begin.

(08-29-2012 08:34 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  You Know truthfully at this point All I want is to Stomp UK's ASS this Sunday. I could not give a Flyin' "F" about the Big 12 anymore. They seem Way more arrogant than the ACC. I want Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Houston, USF, Rutgers, UConn,UCF,SMU,BSU,SDSU,Temple, Navy, and Yes Syracuse and Pittsburgh to go out this Weekend and also kick some ASS. Yeah I said ASS ! Enough Family Fued , it's time for Buisness and Fun to begin.

Agreed.

I've learned more about the fanbases in the B12 the past year than I care to know. Seems like all of them have a "Texas-Sized" ego including the schools that don't have any better football history than schools in the BE. Many have forgotten they were very close to losing their conference last year and looking this way for help. The WVU folk seem to forget they shared the conference crown with two other teams, finished 5-2 in conference with three games that could have easily gone they other way if not for some key in-game injuries, breaks and a complete meltdown in one-- now all of a sudden they are elite because they are in the B12.

(08-29-2012 08:34 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  You Know truthfully at this point All I want is to Stomp UK's ASS this Sunday. I could not give a Flyin' "F" about the Big 12 anymore. They seem Way more arrogant than the ACC. I want Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Houston, USF, Rutgers, UConn,UCF,SMU,BSU,SDSU,Temple, Navy, and Yes Syracuse and Pittsburgh to go out this Weekend and also kick some ASS. Yeah I said ASS ! Enough Family Fued , it's time for Buisness and Fun to begin.

Amen, brother.

(08-29-2012 08:34 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  You Know truthfully at this point All I want is to Stomp UK's ASS this Sunday. I could not give a Flyin' "F" about the Big 12 anymore. They seem Way more arrogant than the ACC. I want Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Houston, USF, Rutgers, UConn,UCF,SMU,BSU,SDSU,Temple, Navy, and Yes Syracuse and Pittsburgh to go out this Weekend and also kick some ASS. Yeah I said ASS ! Enough Family Fued , it's time for Buisness and Fun to begin.

THIS

If the Big East teams can just embrace the conference instead of looking elsewhere and IF we get a big contract that at least puts us within reach of the "other five" we will be fine. Plus we still have kicka%% hoops.

I would like to see everyone give the NBE a go and at least see what we can become for pete sake

(08-29-2012 05:06 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  My point was that Louisville football is comparable to those midlevel programs you mentioned so having a 50-50 shot at losing your coach to them is about right. Now that can change if UL has a string of seasons where they are a top 15 school.

UofL has to DO SOMETHING first.....Strong has a lot of promise and I know the hopes are high...but right now it's just that....hopes. I know UofL wants to position themselves as the premier program in the nbe but for the record UC has more conf titles in the last four years than uofl so just going on, you know..STATS UofL is not the premier program...not yet. They may be down the road...sure but UofL fans need to relax and let the team do something first.

and for the record, it's well known, I'm a UofL fan (when they aren't playing UC)...everybody here knows that. so I'm not slamming or flaming UofL

(08-29-2012 11:08 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  and for the record, it's well known, I'm a UofL fan (when they aren't playing UC)...everybody here knows that. so I'm not slamming or flaming UofL

Same with me. I pull for Louisville when we aren't playing them, now that we will be conference mates again. I feel the same way about ALL nBE teams. We just have way more history with UL and UC, than we do with anybody else here.

(08-30-2012 04:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I pull for Louisville when we aren't playing them, now that we will be conference mates again. I feel the same way about ALL nBE teams. We just have way more history with UL and UC, than we do with anybody else here.

You are stronger than I. I can't bring myself to root Memphis after all of these years. And if Memphis ever played UK, my head would explode.

I don;t have the same level of hatred for Cincinnati, since we all pretty much loved to hate Bob Huggins.