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RE: This is the problem with Louisville Fans/BIG EAST...
Based on recent football performance, clearly UofL is not the flagship program of the Big East. It would be stupid to make this claim. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that the Big East Big Dog position is currently unoccupied with the competition wide open. So, why not Louisville?

Another thing is, Louisville has had the highest football ambitions since the mid 1980s. Our goal is to win a national championship. This has never changed. We have never wavered. We will commit all the resources within our means to make it happen. This is not a half-assed distraction for us.

Some folks would like us to accept our lot in life, and never exceed our station. Sorry, our eyes remain on the ultimate prize. This seems to rub certain opposing fans the wrong way. Too bad.

Now, the new football members of the Big East should understand all this. If all y'all aren't similarly committed to the ultimate football success, then why are you here? There is nothing that Louisville would do, that y'all wouldn't do to reach that shared goal. So, I don't understand the animosity here. It's like hating your own reflection in a mirror.
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(09-01-2012 05:12 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(09-01-2012 04:28 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  That's the real truth these UL fans don't want to disclose. It won't matter if UL is in the BE, in the SEC, in the PAC-12 or in the NFL, when bigger names come calling, Strong is gone. It got nothing to do with the BE. UL football program is nothing special other than in minds of delusional UL fans. BE got nothing to do with why UL can't keep its FB coaches.

It's true that a Michigan or Florida or USC can pretty much take whatever coach they want, from a Louisville or a Texas Tech or a Mississippi State.

The money from the TV contracts is a big difference maker. If the ACC weren't pulling in $11M vs UConn's $3.7M, I don't think Randy Edsall leaves UConn for Maryland. Because it's MAryland, not Miami.

Louisville fans have a legit worry if the Big East doesn't score big with the TV contract. It's one thing to have Notre Dame poaching Brian Kelly. It's another to have the Purdues and Kentuckys and Iowa States and Virginias of college football doing it.

Randy was at UCONN for 11 years. It was time for him to go. I am glad he is gone.

I don't think money has anything to do with why UL will lose FB coaches. I am pretty sure they offered to match whatever when Petrino was around. That guy was just too greedy. If UL wants to get a coach that is willing to stay, they simply have to get one that's royal.

UCONN went with coach P. People might think he is washed up but he is royal. He said UCONN is his dream job and he will either retire here or get fired. He can probably coach another 5-10 years in CT.
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(09-01-2012 05:25 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  Based on recent football performance, clearly UofL is not the flagship program of the Big East. It would be stupid to make this claim. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that the Big East Big Dog position is currently unoccupied with the competition wide open. So, why not Louisville?

Another thing is, Louisville has had the highest football ambitions since the mid 1980s. Our goal is to win a national championship. This has never changed. We have never wavered. We will commit all the resources within our means to make it happen. This is not a half-assed distraction for us.

Some folks would like us to accept our lot in life, and never exceed our station. Sorry, our eyes remain on the ultimate prize. This seems to rub certain opposing fans the wrong way. Too bad.

Now, the new football members of the Big East should understand all this. If all y'all aren't similarly committed to the ultimate football success, then why are you here? There is nothing that Louisville would do, that y'all wouldn't do to reach that shared goal. So, I don't understand the animosity here. It's like hating your own reflection in a mirror.

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(09-01-2012 03:55 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We would have had sole possession of BE last season had We not blown it against Pitt. But that's life. Time to start anew!

Yeah and if Collaros doesn't get hurt UC might have run the table. Sh !t happens.
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Yes, it did to UC 07-coffee3
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i am not boasting, UofL has the best FB program in the BE... We have a solid fan base, amazing facilities, superb stadium, and an environment that is second to none...

Of course the words of an 18 year old freshmen stating how amazing a 40k stadium is obviously demonstrates the premier FB program in the BE... lmao dont kid urself; talk down to me when your fb program has actually accomplished something cause clearly that quote is what husky fans are clamoring too these days
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(09-01-2012 09:04 PM)Gopper Wrote:  i am not boasting, UofL has the best FB program in the BE... We have a solid fan base, amazing facilities, superb stadium, and an environment that is second to none...

You need to take a page from Strong's book. Keep your mouth shut and let the on-the-field results do the talking. We might have a great stadium, a solid fanbase, lots of cash, etc, but it didn't stop us from becoming a garbage program from 2007-2009 and we didn't exactly set the world on fire in 2010 or 2011 (improved but 7-6 isn't exactly something to thump the chest about).


(09-01-2012 09:04 PM)Gopper Wrote:  lmao dont kid urself; talk down to me when your fb program has actually accomplished something cause clearly that quote is what husky fans are clamoring too these days

If you are going to be a troll, can you at least try to be a competent / intelligent one? The above troll attempt is total fail.

#1. UConn (2007, 2010) has the same number of Big East football championships as UofL (2006, 2011).

#2. UConn (1) has the same number of BCS bowl bids as UofL (1).

#3. UofL is 5-3 against UConn all-time and 4-3 in Big East contests against the Huskies.

In summation, UConn and UofL are pretty much equal in terms of their Big East football accomplishments. Next time, please look up facts before posting.
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UConn and Louisviile are the best basketball programs in 2013 Big East Basketllball with Memphis moving in to be the third.

Cincinnati, Louisville,UConn and Rutgers are the Best football programs and Boise should be in the thick also.

Notre Dame and Louisville are the best in overall sports in the Big East.
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(09-01-2012 09:24 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  UConn and Louisviile are the best basketball programs in 2013 Big East Basketllball with Memphis moving in to be the third.

Cincinnati, Louisville,UConn and Rutgers are the Best football programs and Boise should be in the thick also.

Notre Dame and Louisville are the best in overall sports in the Big East.

Correction:

UCONN is by far the best basketball program in the BE. Take our women's basketball into consideration, that's not a contest.

ND is the best Olympic sports in the BE. UL and UCONN are second to ND. Minor sports are difficult to calculate since not all the teams sponsor all the sports.

In sports that are popular:

Men's basketball: UCONN, UL
Women's basketball: UCONN, ND is distant second.
Soccer: UCONN for men's and women's
FB: UCONN, UL and Cincy have won championships.
Baseball: UCONN, UL, St Johns
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Husky, much of your post is pure opinion despite posting as if your lead teams by sport are fact. As just one example, for soccer the league has many teams ranked nearly every year. What exactly did UConn do to be the supposed leader? Especially considering UofL is the only BE team to recently make the men's soccer national title game.
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(09-01-2012 09:33 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(09-01-2012 09:24 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  UConn and Louisviile are the best basketball programs in 2013 Big East Basketllball with Memphis moving in to be the third.

Cincinnati, Louisville,UConn and Rutgers are the Best football programs and Boise should be in the thick also.

Notre Dame and Louisville are the best in overall sports in the Big East.

Correction:

UCONN is by far the best basketball program in the BE. Take our women's basketball into consideration, that's not a contest.

ND is the best Olympic sports in the BE. UL and UCONN are second to ND. Minor sports are difficult to calculate since not all the teams sponsor all the sports.

In sports that are popular:

Men's basketball: UCONN, UL
Women's basketball: UCONN, ND is distant second.
Soccer: UCONN for men's and women's
FB: UCONN, UL and Cincy have won championships.
Baseball: UCONN, UL, St Johns

Well, the Sears CUP and Directors CUp all rank Notre Dame and Louisvile ahead of UConn and you cannot twist that away! 03-idea
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(09-01-2012 09:44 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Husky, much of your post is pure opinion despite posting as if your lead teams by sport are fact. As just one example, for soccer the league has many teams ranked nearly every year. What exactly did UConn do to be the supposed leader? Especially considering UofL is the only BE team to recently make the men's soccer national title game.

For starters, UCONN men's soccer team actually won 3 national championships and is currently ranked #5. How many national championships have UL's men's soccer won?

UCONN Men's soccer

NCAA Tournament Appearances: 28
Last NCAA Appearance: 2010
National Championships: (3) 1948, 1981, 2000
College Cups: (5) 1981, 1982, 1983, 1999, 2000
All-Americans: 33
National Players of the Year: 3
Big East Regular Season Championships: (11) 1985, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007, 2009
Big East Tournament Championships: (7) 1983, 1984, 1989, 1999, 2004, 2005, 2007
MLS Draft Picks: 14

UCONN women's soccer:

Most Victories: 23 in 1997
NCAA Tournament Appearances: 28
Last NCAA Appearance: 2010
NCAA Championship Game Appearances: (4) 1984, 1990, 1997, 2003
College Cups: (7) 1982, 1983, 1984, 1990, 1994, 1997, 2003
All-Americans: 26 Players Awarded 44 Times
Big East Regular Season Championships: (8) 1995,1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005
Big East Tournament Championships: (2) 2002, 2004
All-Big East Selections: 81

Show me UL's.
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Thank you for finally explaining how to rate teams historically! I honestly now understand how you manage to have UConn #1 in every sport.

Your approach is to look at all time historical when it better suits UConn (soccer) but then refuse to discuss anything that happened beyond 15 years ago in other sports if that better suits UConn (men's basketball). As long as you are consistently inconsistent I guess that works for you!
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(09-01-2012 10:06 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Thank you for finally explaining how to rate teams historically! I honestly now understand how you manage to have UConn #1 in every sport.

Your approach is to look at all time historical when it better suits UConn (soccer) but then refuse to discuss anything that happened beyond 15 years ago in other sports if that better suits UConn (men's basketball). As long as you are consistently inconsistent I guess that works for you!

Most UCONN soccer's accomplishments were in the last 30 years.

I don't care you rate last 30 years or last 50 years for basketball, UCONN is still ahead. We got 3 national championships in men's basketball and you got 2. That's the most important record. Elite 8 or final 4 in years where they only got 16 in the tournament is not the same as Elite 8 or Final 4 with 64 teams. Oh yeah, we also put out way more NBA players than UL LOL. Until you match our NC total, you are not our equal.
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No need to argue it is really simple, the revenue generating sports (men's bball and football) have been and going forward will be anchored by Cincinnati, UConn and Louisville, the others aren't even close.
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(09-01-2012 10:22 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  No need to argue it is really simple, the revenue generating sports (men's bball and football) have been and going forward will be anchored by Cincinnati, UConn and Louisville, the others aren't even close.

Amen, there are plenty of accomplishments in the past and going forward in the future to need a pissing contest. We are all good at what We do. Challange the ACC, Big, SEC, Big12 fans.04-cheers
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Agree...it looks at this time like UofL, UC, and UCONN will be the big three in regards to FB/men's hoops

yes, boise will be good in fb, memphis good in hoops, etc. but I mean football AND hoops, taken together it looks like it will UofL, UC, and UCONN in the near future.

things can and do change however.
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The three strongest All Sports Schools are in no particular order Louisville, Cincinnati & UConn.

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