If Aresco and Bevilacqua can get somewhere between ACC money and Pac 12 money . . .

Does BYU come for all sports?

BYU has a decent TV deal for football, but the WCC has a terrible TV deal for their others sports.

If we could offer them ~$17M a year for all sports, wouldn't they come? They'd be much closer to keeping up with the Jones, err Utes.

I guess the Sunday play issue could be a problem, but isn't offering all sports with a great TV deal the best chance the Big East has to get BYU?

(08-21-2012 10:09 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  If Aresco and Bevilacqua can get somewhere between ACC money and Pac 12 money . . .

Does BYU come for all sports?

BYU has a decent TV deal for football, but the WCC has a terrible TV deal for their others sports.

If we could offer them ~$17M a year for all sports, wouldn't they come? They'd be much closer to keeping up with the Jones, err Utes.

I guess the Sunday play issue could be a problem, but isn't offering all sports with a great TV deal the best chance the Big East has to get BYU?

While it would be nice to get BYU on board, we should work the TV deal with the goals of long term stability, not to entice any one team to join.

BYU would be a home run, but the upsides of having AFA or Fresno would be just as good in the long run

(08-21-2012 10:09 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  If Aresco and Bevilacqua can get somewhere between ACC money and Pac 12 money . . .

Does BYU come for all sports?

BYU has a decent TV deal for football, but the WCC has a terrible TV deal for their others sports.

If we could offer them ~$17M a year for all sports, wouldn't they come? They'd be much closer to keeping up with the Jones, err Utes.

I guess the Sunday play issue could be a problem, but isn't offering all sports with a great TV deal the best chance the Big East has to get BYU?

I doubt all-sports membership would be very attractive to either party. I suspect that BYU is very pleased with their Olympic sports in the WCC. The WCC is mostly made up of faith based institutions and has been more than happy to work around BYU's no Sunday play policy. On the other hand, i do tend to think a BYU football only membership is a very strong possibility.

(08-21-2012 10:19 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:09 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  If Aresco and Bevilacqua can get somewhere between ACC money and Pac 12 money . . .

Does BYU come for all sports?

BYU has a decent TV deal for football, but the WCC has a terrible TV deal for their others sports.

If we could offer them ~$17M a year for all sports, wouldn't they come? They'd be much closer to keeping up with the Jones, err Utes.

I guess the Sunday play issue could be a problem, but isn't offering all sports with a great TV deal the best chance the Big East has to get BYU?

I doubt all-sports membership would be very attractive to either party. I suspect that BYU is ver happy with their Olympic sports in the WCC. The WCC is mostly made up of faith based institutions and has been more than happy to work around BYU's no Sunday play policy. On the other hand, i do tend to think a BYU football only membership is a very strong possibility.

Would Air Force want an all sports deal?

It will be BYU either as a Football only, or I could see a Football/Basketball only membership with them leaving all other sports in the WCC.

The BE could play a 19 team (18 Conferene games playing everyone once) schedule. Play the Semi-Final Conference Tournament games on Saturday, and then play the Big East Basketball Tournamnet Championship Game on.....Monday.

Football only is fine. If you're in the Rockies or west all-sports makes no sense.

(08-21-2012 10:09 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  If Aresco and Bevilacqua can get somewhere between ACC money and Pac 12 money . . .

Does BYU come for all sports?

BYU has a decent TV deal for football, but the WCC has a terrible TV deal for their others sports.

If we could offer them ~$17M a year for all sports, wouldn't they come? They'd be much closer to keeping up with the Jones, err Utes.

I guess the Sunday play issue could be a problem, but isn't offering all sports with a great TV deal the best chance the Big East has to get BYU?

Yes, it's possible, just not likely.

(08-21-2012 10:32 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:19 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:09 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  If Aresco and Bevilacqua can get somewhere between ACC money and Pac 12 money . . .

Does BYU come for all sports?

BYU has a decent TV deal for football, but the WCC has a terrible TV deal for their others sports.

If we could offer them ~$17M a year for all sports, wouldn't they come? They'd be much closer to keeping up with the Jones, err Utes.

I guess the Sunday play issue could be a problem, but isn't offering all sports with a great TV deal the best chance the Big East has to get BYU?

I doubt all-sports membership would be very attractive to either party. I suspect that BYU is ver happy with their Olympic sports in the WCC. The WCC is mostly made up of faith based institutions and has been more than happy to work around BYU's no Sunday play policy. On the other hand, i do tend to think a BYU football only membership is a very strong possibility.

Would Air Force want an all sports deal?

I don't think Air Force has changed its mind about the Big East invite and will prefer to stay in the MWC to be with Colorado State and Wyoming. The money means little to them as they have a wealthy uncle to care for their needs. But I agree BYU might be interested in the nBE for football-only, but only under the following conditions:

1. if the media money is there
2. the BE will accomodate their objections for Sunday play
3. the BE has access to a major bowl
4. and allowing BYU to keep certain television rights.

Number 4 was the deal breaker last November. BYU wanted the rebroadcast rights to its home football games for its own TV network, and the BE wouldn't allow that. I would think that there might be a "what if BYU" clause is in the new media contract that could accomodate that issue as a carrot for the Mormon school. They are really so incessant about it because the Mormon heirachy thinks BYU football is a great way to spread the word and recruit new church members. So, how far is the BE willing to go to get them?

(08-21-2012 10:48 AM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  It will be BYU either as a Football only, or I could see a Football/Basketball only membership with them leaving all other sports in the WCC.

The BE could play a 19 team (18 Conferene games playing everyone once) schedule. Play the Semi-Final Conference Tournament games on Saturday, and then play the Big East Basketball Tournamnet Championship Game on.....Monday.

No freaking way BE would adjust our BET schedule for....BYU.

I rather have Fresno to be honest. I think those guys would blow up in a power conference. Their potential is huge.

I agree that the travel costs involved for the Olympic sports would make it less likely for the western schools to come in for all sports.

(08-21-2012 10:59 AM)Road Apple Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:32 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:19 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:09 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  If Aresco and Bevilacqua can get somewhere between ACC money and Pac 12 money . . .

Does BYU come for all sports?

BYU has a decent TV deal for football, but the WCC has a terrible TV deal for their others sports.

If we could offer them ~$17M a year for all sports, wouldn't they come? They'd be much closer to keeping up with the Jones, err Utes.

I guess the Sunday play issue could be a problem, but isn't offering all sports with a great TV deal the best chance the Big East has to get BYU?

I doubt all-sports membership would be very attractive to either party. I suspect that BYU is ver happy with their Olympic sports in the WCC. The WCC is mostly made up of faith based institutions and has been more than happy to work around BYU's no Sunday play policy. On the other hand, i do tend to think a BYU football only membership is a very strong possibility.

Would Air Force want an all sports deal?

I don't think Air Force has changed its mind about the Big East invite and will prefer to stay in the MWC to be with Colorado State and Wyoming. The money means little to them as they have a wealthy uncle to care for their needs. But I agree BYU might be interested in the nBE for football-only, but only under the following conditions:

1. if the media money is there
2. the BE will accomodate their objections for Sunday play
3. the BE has access to a major bowl
4. and allowing BYU to keep certain television rights.

Number 4 was the deal breaker last November. BYU wanted the rebroadcast rights to its home football games for its own TV network, and the BE wouldn't allow that. I would think that there might be a "what if BYU" clause is in the new media contract that could accomodate that issue as a carrot for the Mormon school. They are really so incessant about it because the Mormon heirachy thinks BYU football is a great way to spread the word and recruit new church members. So, how far is the BE willing to go to get them?

the rivalry stuff me thinks is a red herring -the real issue is they thought it'd be easy to plop their other wretched sports somewhere and couldn't.

(08-21-2012 10:50 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Football only is fine. If you're in the Rockies or west all-sports makes no sense.

Yeah...WCC makes the most sense...as many of BYU's Olympic sport teams can easily play 2 games/matches with just 1 short flight...as the WCC has 3 teams in the Bay Area...plus 3 more teams in Southern California.

(08-21-2012 11:20 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:50 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Football only is fine. If you're in the Rockies or west all-sports makes no sense.

Yeah...WCC makes the most sense...as many of BYU's Olympic sport teams can easily play 2 games/matches with just 1 short flight...as the WCC has 3 teams in the Bay Area...plus 3 more teams in Southern California.

Go Santa Clara Broncos! I only wish my other alma mater has nearly the same success as UCONN. It is a small conference full of religious private schools. BYU sort of fit but they are a big fish. Both St. Marys and Zags have been really good. Santa Clara was good when Steve Nash was there, but that was a while ago.

I do agree for BYU this is a good fit for them. WCC also just added Pacific and they are not too far from the Bay Area either in Stockton area.

(08-21-2012 11:28 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 11:20 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:50 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Football only is fine. If you're in the Rockies or west all-sports makes no sense.

Yeah...WCC makes the most sense...as many of BYU's Olympic sport teams can easily play 2 games/matches with just 1 short flight...as the WCC has 3 teams in the Bay Area...plus 3 more teams in Southern California.

Go Santa Clara Broncos! I only wish my other alma mater has nearly the same success as UCONN. It is a small conference full of religious private schools. BYU sort of fit but they are a big fish. Both St. Marys and Zags have been really good. Santa Clara was good when Steve Nash was there, but that was a while ago.

I do agree for BYU this is a good fit for them. WCC also just added Pacific and they are not too far from the Bay Area either in Stockton area.

Yes it is a good fit. Their objections to Sunday sports play is solved and they are content to be with the WCC for other reasons including the economic factor in sending all their sport teams across the continent to play on the east coast. That is why they would be a natural fit for the nBE as a football-only team. They would have good regional travel partners in BSU and SDSU, two teams they have some kind of history with.

All that said, I have to agree with what Kurciff said in post #2, BYU would be a home run, but the upsides of having AF or Fresno State would be just about as good in the long run. For stability if nothing else.

I would like to see BYU bu they have to come without any strings attached other than not playing on Sundays. Otherwise it just opens the door for every school in the league to put their hand out for a 'special' arrangement or circumstances. BYU brings brand recognition, devoted fanbase, good football and a bonafide TV market they own.....but its all for not if they don't play by the same rules. They don't have the clout or influence of Notre Dame to make it worth while.

tired of waiting for BYU to make up their mind

(08-21-2012 12:33 PM)Road Apple Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 11:28 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 11:20 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-21-2012 10:50 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Football only is fine. If you're in the Rockies or west all-sports makes no sense.

Yeah...WCC makes the most sense...as many of BYU's Olympic sport teams can easily play 2 games/matches with just 1 short flight...as the WCC has 3 teams in the Bay Area...plus 3 more teams in Southern California.

Go Santa Clara Broncos! I only wish my other alma mater has nearly the same success as UCONN. It is a small conference full of religious private schools. BYU sort of fit but they are a big fish. Both St. Marys and Zags have been really good. Santa Clara was good when Steve Nash was there, but that was a while ago.

I do agree for BYU this is a good fit for them. WCC also just added Pacific and they are not too far from the Bay Area either in Stockton area.

Yes it is a good fit. Their objections to Sunday sports play is solved and they are content to be with the WCC for other reasons including the economic factor in sending all their sport teams across the continent to play on the east coast. That is why they would be a natural fit for the nBE as a football-only team. They would have good regional travel partners in BSU and SDSU, two teams they have some kind of history with.

All that said, I have to agree with what Kurciff said in post #2, BYU would be a home run, but the upsides of having AF or Fresno State would be just about as good in the long run. For stability if nothing else.

Actually, my issue with Air Force is there is no potential for future growth there. They are about as good as they can be. Given thier recruiting restrictions and liablilites, they are not ever going to be a potential national championship team. BYU and Fresno do have the room to grow into potential national contenders down the road (as do all the other schools in the the Big East).

(08-21-2012 01:35 PM)Gopper Wrote:  tired of waiting for BYU to make up their mind

The BE is in no rush. Don't need #14 until 2015. And BYU is waiting to see our new TV contract.

I hope they go with Fresno St. I think they are waiting for that opportunity to be in the Big League. Plus Big East will add another school in a great market. 2 schools each in Texas, Cali and Florida.

Great facilities and support is there.. they just need some motivation, i can see this being a good addition..without all the drama (byu)


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(08-21-2012 01:35 PM)Gopper Wrote:  tired of waiting for BYU to make up their mind

They've already made up their mind