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Wonder how much this type stuff *really* exists in the DoD
Quote:Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

At issue is an article in the respected Small Wars Journal titled “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future.” It was written by retired Army Col. Kevin Benson of the Army's University of Foreign Military and Cultural Studies at Fort Leavenworth], Kan., and Jennifer Weber, a Civil War expert at the University of Kansas. It posits an “extremist militia motivated by the goals of the ‘tea party’ movement” seizing control of Darlington, S.C., in 2016, “occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council and placing the mayor under house arrest.” The rebels set up checkpoints on Interstate 95 and Interstate 20 looking for illegal aliens. It’s a cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012...r-of-2016/
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The military won't take up arms against the American people, especially not anyone that holds the same views as the tea party. These Commie Progs? I could see it happening.
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I saw this on Drudge earlier and thought it was interesting.
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(08-13-2012 12:28 PM)Rebel Wrote:  The military won't take up arms against the American people, especially not anyone that holds the same views as the tea party.

I'm not so sure.

Once you brand someone a troublemaker and accuse them of threatening our way of life, it isn't hard to imagine slingin' a few elbows at the rabble-rousers in defense of "liberty".
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I can't believe this garbage was published in a professional military journal.

No way the US Military would supersede State/Local jurisdiction on something like this.
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Why the Tea Party? Why the assumption they're the only ones with guns?
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(08-13-2012 12:28 PM)Rebel Wrote:  The military won't take up arms against the American people, especially not anyone that holds the same views as the tea party. These Commie Progs? I could see it happening.

I don't know Rebel. Remeber soldiers are trained to follow orders or face punishment. You might have some that desert the army rather than take action against an fellow American but they do take an oath to protect America from all enemies both foreign and doemstic. All the American government would have to do is brand the rebels as domestic terrorists and declare marshal law.
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(08-13-2012 02:46 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Why the Tea Party? Why the assumption they're the only ones with guns?

Why Darlington, SC? I have to assume it takes place the weekend of the NASCAR race as well.
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(08-13-2012 03:13 PM)Bluedawg10 Wrote:  
(08-13-2012 12:28 PM)Rebel Wrote:  The military won't take up arms against the American people, especially not anyone that holds the same views as the tea party. These Commie Progs? I could see it happening.

I don't know Rebel. Remeber soldiers are trained to follow orders or face punishment. You might have some that desert the army rather than take action against an fellow American but they do take an oath to protect America from all enemies both foreign and doemstic. All the American government would have to do is brand the rebels as domestic terrorists and declare marshal law.

I'm pretty sure Reb knows what soldiers are trained to do. I'm sure there are hundreds of more of these types of scenarios that have been thought out in different parts of the country with various factions. Hell, we plan for aliens, we sure as hell are gonna plan for what we're gonna do if the military does get called up against its own people. And we've already had the discussion on what would likely happen if the military was called to respond to some sort of martial law situation.
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Was just watching an episode of How the States Got Their Shapes... S Carolina has a long reputation for being rebellious. Good job in that Battle of Charleston.
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(08-13-2012 05:57 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  
(08-13-2012 03:13 PM)Bluedawg10 Wrote:  
(08-13-2012 12:28 PM)Rebel Wrote:  The military won't take up arms against the American people, especially not anyone that holds the same views as the tea party. These Commie Progs? I could see it happening.

I don't know Rebel. Remeber soldiers are trained to follow orders or face punishment. You might have some that desert the army rather than take action against an fellow American but they do take an oath to protect America from all enemies both foreign and doemstic. All the American government would have to do is brand the rebels as domestic terrorists and declare marshal law.

I'm pretty sure Reb knows what soldiers are trained to do. I'm sure there are hundreds of more of these types of scenarios that have been thought out in different parts of the country with various factions. Hell, we plan for aliens, we sure as hell are gonna plan for what we're gonna do if the military does get called up against its own people. And we've already had the discussion on what would likely happen if the military was called to respond to some sort of martial law situation.

We even had a Contingency Plan to pull the Nuclear Launch codes away from a President, which may or may not have been implemented with Nixon.

If you are carrying the Football while Nixon walked through the White House talking to portraits of the Presidents... what would you do?
08-13-2012 09:53 PM
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(08-13-2012 12:28 PM)Rebel Wrote:  The military won't take up arms against the American people, especially not anyone that holds the same views as the tea party. These Commie Progs? I could see it happening.

Rebel, you missed the story about the president having the military do training exercises in downtown St. Louis for "insurrection control", I take it?

Honestly though, I can't see the military taking up arms against US citizens, orders or not.
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(08-13-2012 09:44 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Was just watching an episode of How the States Got Their Shapes... S Carolina has a long reputation for being rebellious. Good job in that Battle of Charleston.

Yes..That was an interesting show. I thought the Palmetto palm was just a quirky symbol for SC. I had no idea of it's historical tie.
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(08-13-2012 09:53 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(08-13-2012 05:57 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  
(08-13-2012 03:13 PM)Bluedawg10 Wrote:  
(08-13-2012 12:28 PM)Rebel Wrote:  The military won't take up arms against the American people, especially not anyone that holds the same views as the tea party. These Commie Progs? I could see it happening.

I don't know Rebel. Remeber soldiers are trained to follow orders or face punishment. You might have some that desert the army rather than take action against an fellow American but they do take an oath to protect America from all enemies both foreign and doemstic. All the American government would have to do is brand the rebels as domestic terrorists and declare marshal law.

I'm pretty sure Reb knows what soldiers are trained to do. I'm sure there are hundreds of more of these types of scenarios that have been thought out in different parts of the country with various factions. Hell, we plan for aliens, we sure as hell are gonna plan for what we're gonna do if the military does get called up against its own people. And we've already had the discussion on what would likely happen if the military was called to respond to some sort of martial law situation.

We even had a Contingency Plan to pull the Nuclear Launch codes away from a President, which may or may not have been implemented with Nixon.

If you are carrying the Football while Nixon walked through the White House talking to portraits of the Presidents... what would you do?

Slowly slink away.... Of course, you probably don't follow the president around the White House.
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