Feds are out of control. But that is what it is all about - control.

You Texans have probably heard about this story. Man owns small Trucking business. Gets a call telling him that one of his trucks (supposed to be in the shop) was used and one of his drivers killed in a botched DEA sting operation - done without his knowledge.

DEA Gone Wild

Quote:In short, the DEA here commandeered private property from a law-abiding businessman and ineptly deployed it in an operation that got a man killed and now endangers a family that had nothing to do with the case. There is a term for what the DEA did with that truck: grand theft auto.

The DEA is running neck-and-neck with the ATF for the title of most dangerous federal law-enforcement agency; in my view, both should be dissolved and their responsibilities handed over to some more responsible party, such as a group of drunken rodeo clowns or ADD-addled teen-agers.

Whoever approved this operation belongs in a jail cell next to whoever approved Fast and Furious.

Thank Goodness Obama will put a stop to things like this... Most open administration ever, lets drain that swamp!

Funny, I was having a conversation the other day w/ a couple of co-workers who asked me about my small gov't opinions. I brought up the ATF, and then the DEA.

I still have absolutely no idea why we have a ATF...seems like a long outdated vestige of the prohibition days.

These co-workers weren't too keen on legalizing drugs (they had first-hand experience in the matter, I don't so I defer to them) but they couldn't figure out the ATF either.

(07-31-2012 11:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Funny, I was having a conversation the other day w/ a couple of co-workers who asked me about my small gov't opinions. I brought up the ATF, and then the DEA.

I still have absolutely no idea why we have a ATF...seems like a long outdated vestige of the prohibition days.

These co-workers weren't too keen on legalizing drugs (they had first-hand experience in the matter, I don't so I defer to them) but they couldn't figure out the ATF either.

I agree... There is *nothing* the ATF does that should not be a part of the FBI. As to the DEA, well some of their crap should go to the FBI and some to the CIA I suppose.

Your tax dollars at work.

(07-31-2012 11:52 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Thank Goodness Obama will put a stop to things like this... Most open administration ever, lets drain that swamp!

So Obama should/could have done what to prevent this?????

(07-31-2012 01:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 11:52 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Thank Goodness Obama will put a stop to things like this... Most open administration ever, lets drain that swamp!

So Obama should/could have done what to prevent this?????

I don't know I just had *HOPE* that he was going to *CHANGE* things... You know like direct the law enforcement agencies under him to act in an ethical manner.

Than again give the fact the ATF falls under Justice I guess something like this was inevitable.

(07-31-2012 01:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 11:52 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Thank Goodness Obama will put a stop to things like this... Most open administration ever, lets drain that swamp!

So Obama should/could have done what to prevent this?????

ATF--Justice Department--Executive

So, where SHOULD the buck stop, Tom?

Wasn't the ATF changed to the ATB? I thought I've seen that change on the ones who used to walk around UCF campus during tailgates (which makes sense, given that firearm regulation shouldn't be handled by the same who handle alcohol and tobacco).