(07-30-2012 10:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Bull...relax...you constantly want to put words into my mouth. When did I ever call or characterize Israel as evil?

And I know you said citizens and I get all that...but Israel could certainly handle the Palestine situation a little better IMO.

So you cant argue that Israel is the closest thing to a democracy over there and one that treats minorities better than anyone else?

BTW can you acknowledge that perhaps the Palestinians could stop firing rockets into Israel?

Israel was ready to sign a two state solution years ago, giving Palestinians a ton of what they were asking for before the PLO backed down. The Jews are ready for some two state solution. The Palestinians and their puppet masters in Tehran, not so much.

(07-30-2012 10:25 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-29-2012 09:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I took pause in hearing his comments today in Israel. He repeatedly made the statement that "We would never abandon Israel." I guess he speaks for all Americans now?

I don't see anything wrong with saying that. Besides, what's the alternative? "We might abandon Israel sometime in the future." That probably wouldn't play well over here. But you are correct that he spoke for all Americans when the left would rather side with Palestine instead of Israel.

The alternative...."If elected as POTUS...I will support the past policies of the US in regard to Israel."

(07-30-2012 10:29 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 10:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Bull...relax...you constantly want to put words into my mouth. When did I ever call or characterize Israel as evil?

And I know you said citizens and I get all that...but Israel could certainly handle the Palestine situation a little better IMO.

So you cant argue that Israel is the closest thing to a democracy over there and one that treats minorities better than anyone else?

BTW can you acknowledge that perhaps the Palestinians could stop firing rockets into Israel?

Israel was ready to sign a two state solution years ago, giving Palestinians a ton of what they were asking for before the PLO backed down. The Jews are ready for some two state solution. The Palestinians and their puppet masters in Tehran, not so much.

So you are saying Israel doesn't/didn't do anything to provoke them firing rockets?

I don't give a particular f*** about Israel, but you have to massage their backs a little when you speak of them or else you won't win. That's the game.

Of all the issues out there this is the one people are picking out? Really?

The unemployment rate is 8.2%
Our national debt is over 16 trillion dollars
The President imposed Executive Privilege to cover up his administrations failed attempt to impose gun control
We are being forced to implement a new healthcare plan that a majority of Americans don't want and our leaders don't understand
Our economy is slowing down to the point of near recession and may be there by Q2 of next year
We have the MOST divisive president in American history inciting class warfare
More people are on food stamps than at any point in US history
Free speech is being threatened at every level (see chick fil a thread)
Being a Christian and supporter of Israel now makes me a bigot and a war warmongering neocon
Supporting capitalism makes me want poor people to die in the streets
Gun control is right around the corner
Cap and trade is being enacted by the EPA
Millions of ILLEGAL aliens have been granted amnesty
THOUSANDS of drones are spying on Americans every day or soon will be
Being a fan of Liberty makes me a domestic terrorist

WHAT THE FUC%!!!


And what O'Romney says in Israel is what people want to talk about?

Carry on.

(07-30-2012 12:28 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I don't give a particular f*** about Israel, but you have to massage their backs a little when you speak of them or else you won't win. That's the game.

Especially when you're collecting millions in doing so!

(07-30-2012 12:36 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Of all the issues out there this is the one people are picking out? Really?

The unemployment rate is 8.2%
Our national debt is over 16 trillion dollars
The President imposed Executive Privilege to cover up his administrations failed attempt to impose gun control
We are being forced to implement a new healthcare plan that a majority of Americans don't want and our leaders don't understand
Our economy is slowing down to the point of near recession and may be there by Q2 of next year
We have the MOST divisive president in American history inciting class warfare
More people are on food stamps than at any point in US history
Free speech is being threatened at every level (see chick fil a thread)
Being a Christian and supporter of Israel now makes me a bigot and a war warmongering neocon
Supporting capitalism makes me want poor people to die in the streets
Gun control is right around the corner
Cap and trade is being enacted by the EPA
Millions of ILLEGAL aliens have been granted amnesty
THOUSANDS of drones are spying on Americans every day or soon will be
Being a fan of Liberty makes me a domestic terrorist

WHAT THE FUC%!!!


And what O'Romney says in Israel is what people want to talk about?

Carry on.

(07-30-2012 12:36 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Of all the issues out there this is the one people are picking out? Really? Ummm, NO!

The unemployment rate is 8.2%
Our national debt is over 16 trillion dollars WRONG!
The President imposed Executive Privilege to cover up his administrations failed attempt to impose gun control WRONG!
We are being forced to implement a new healthcare plan that a majority of Americans don't want and our leaders don't understand WRONG!
Our economy is slowing down to the point of near recession and may be there by Q2 of next year
We have the MOST divisive president in American history inciting class warfare WRONG!
More people are on food stamps than at any point in US history
Free speech is being threatened at every level (see chick fil a thread) WRONG!
Being a Christian and supporter of Israel now makes me a bigot and a war warmongering neocon WRONG!
Supporting capitalism makes me want poor people to die in the streets WRONG!
Gun control is right around the corner WRONG!
Cap and trade is being enacted by the EPA WRONG!
Millions of ILLEGAL aliens have been granted amnesty WRONG!
THOUSANDS of drones are spying on Americans every day or soon will be WRONG!
Being a fan of Liberty makes me a domestic terrorist WRONG!

WHAT THE FUC%!!!


And what O'Romney says in Israel is what people want to talk about?

Carry on.

Thanks for letting us know how absolutely clueless you are.

Carry on.

(07-30-2012 12:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:36 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Of all the issues out there this is the one people are picking out? Really?

The unemployment rate is 8.2%
Our national debt is over 16 trillion dollars WRONG!
The President imposed Executive Privilege to cover up his administrations failed attempt to impose gun control WRONG!
We are being forced to implement a new healthcare plan that a majority of Americans don't want and our leaders don't understand WRONG!
Our economy is slowing down to the point of near recession and may be there by Q2 of next year
We have the MOST divisive president in American history inciting class warfare WRONG!
More people are on food stamps than at any point in US history
Free speech is being threatened at every level (see chick fil a thread) WRONG!
Being a Christian and supporter of Israel now makes me a bigot and a war warmongering neocon WRONG!
Supporting capitalism makes me want poor people to die in the streets WRONG!
Gun control is right around the corner WRONG!
Cap and trade is being enacted by the EPA WRONG!
Millions of ILLEGAL aliens have been granted amnesty WRONG!
THOUSANDS of drones are spying on Americans every day or soon will be WRONG!
Being a fan of Liberty makes me a domestic terrorist WRONG!

WHAT THE FUC%!!!


And what O'Romney says in Israel is what people want to talk about?

Carry on.

Thanks for letting us know how absolutely clueless you are.

Carry on.

Prove it.

(07-30-2012 12:46 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:36 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Of all the issues out there this is the one people are picking out? Really?

The unemployment rate is 8.2%
Our national debt is over 16 trillion dollars WRONG!
The President imposed Executive Privilege to cover up his administrations failed attempt to impose gun control WRONG!
We are being forced to implement a new healthcare plan that a majority of Americans don't want and our leaders don't understand WRONG!
Our economy is slowing down to the point of near recession and may be there by Q2 of next year
We have the MOST divisive president in American history inciting class warfare WRONG!
More people are on food stamps than at any point in US history
Free speech is being threatened at every level (see chick fil a thread) WRONG!
Being a Christian and supporter of Israel now makes me a bigot and a war warmongering neocon WRONG!
Supporting capitalism makes me want poor people to die in the streets WRONG!
Gun control is right around the corner WRONG!
Cap and trade is being enacted by the EPA WRONG!
Millions of ILLEGAL aliens have been granted amnesty WRONG!
THOUSANDS of drones are spying on Americans every day or soon will be WRONG!
Being a fan of Liberty makes me a domestic terrorist WRONG!

WHAT THE FUC%!!!


And what O'Romney says in Israel is what people want to talk about?

Carry on.

Thanks for letting us know how absolutely clueless you are.

Carry on.

Prove it.

NO, you see, people who make outlandish claims are responsible for proving them. That's how it works. I don't have to prove to you that I didn't rape and kill that 12-year old. Geez, you're dense some times...lol

But for starters, the national debt is NOT over 16 trillion. I'ts 15.894 trillion. And yes, 106 billion dollars is still a lot of money.

(07-30-2012 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:46 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:36 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Of all the issues out there this is the one people are picking out? Really?

The unemployment rate is 8.2%
Our national debt is over 16 trillion dollars WRONG!
The President imposed Executive Privilege to cover up his administrations failed attempt to impose gun control WRONG!
We are being forced to implement a new healthcare plan that a majority of Americans don't want and our leaders don't understand WRONG!
Our economy is slowing down to the point of near recession and may be there by Q2 of next year
We have the MOST divisive president in American history inciting class warfare WRONG!
More people are on food stamps than at any point in US history
Free speech is being threatened at every level (see chick fil a thread) WRONG!
Being a Christian and supporter of Israel now makes me a bigot and a war warmongering neocon WRONG!
Supporting capitalism makes me want poor people to die in the streets WRONG!
Gun control is right around the corner WRONG!
Cap and trade is being enacted by the EPA WRONG!
Millions of ILLEGAL aliens have been granted amnesty WRONG!
THOUSANDS of drones are spying on Americans every day or soon will be WRONG!
Being a fan of Liberty makes me a domestic terrorist WRONG!

WHAT THE FUC%!!!


And what O'Romney says in Israel is what people want to talk about?

Carry on.

Thanks for letting us know how absolutely clueless you are.

Carry on.

Prove it.

NO, you see, people who make outlandish claims are responsible for proving them. That's how it works. I don't have to prove to you that I didn't rape and kill that 12-year old. Geez, you're dense some times...lol

But for starters, the national debt is NOT over 16 trillion. I'ts 15.894 trillion. And yes, 106 billion dollars is still a lot of money.

LOL...you got me. I was wrong on the debt one.

But you're wrong about it being a lot of money. To the Fed's that's a rounding error.

(07-30-2012 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  NO, you see, people who make outlandish claims are responsible for proving them. That's how it works. I don't have to prove to you that I didn't rape and kill that 12-year old. Geez, you're dense some times...lol

So when you say republicans want dirty air and water, tea partiers are violent racists, etc, you mean you don't really believe that?

(07-30-2012 12:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  NO, you see, people who make outlandish claims are responsible for proving them. That's how it works. I don't have to prove to you that I didn't rape and kill that 12-year old. Geez, you're dense some times...lol

So when you say republicans want dirty air and water, tea partiers are violent racists, etc, you mean you don't really believe that?

If I ever said that, sure.

Hey...look...I found IMATY's true identity!


6-year-old spouts Tea Party talking points as to why people should not vote for President Obama

(07-30-2012 12:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  NO, you see, people who make outlandish claims are responsible for proving them. That's how it works. I don't have to prove to you that I didn't rape and kill that 12-year old. Geez, you're dense some times...lol

So when you say republicans want dirty air and water, tea partiers are violent racists, etc, you mean you don't really believe that?

I have a Rain Soft water softener that purifies every drop of water that enters my house so I don't care about dirty water. It's good not being poor. I flush my toilet with water cleaner than some people can buy....talking to you Robert.

(07-30-2012 01:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Hey...look...I found IMATY's true identity!


6-year-old spouts Tea Party talking points as to why people should not vote for President Obama

Sounds like this kid has good parents who love America.

(07-30-2012 01:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Hey...look...I found IMATY's true identity!

Hey Red, is this you and two more of your Islamic boy scouts? I'm sure they allow gays and Jews to join their group.

These last posts are pretty funny.

(07-30-2012 09:23 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Yeah, cause Obama NEVER said anything like that when he went to Israel as a candidate.

Quote:Today I had a series of productive discussions with many of Israel's key leaders about how to address the broad range of security threats that Israel faces and the broad threats that all of us face. I look forward to continuing these consultations with Prime Minister Olmert this evening, and I'm also looking forward to consulting closely with our European allies about Iran and other challenges in the days ahead.

Wow, look at him pick out those drapes. I bet he had a the new couch in mind he was putting in the Oval Office.

Quote:Now let me just close by saying that I bring to Sderot, an unshakeable commitment to Israel's security. The state of Israel faces determined enemies who seek its destruction. But it also has a friend and ally in the United States that will always stand by the people of Israel.

HORRIBLE!!!! HORRIBLE I SAY!!! WHO DID OBAMA THINK HE WAS? Setting policy in this way?!!! He hadn't won anything!!!

We aren't talking about Obama. We are discussing Romney. Stay on topic.

(07-30-2012 12:36 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Of all the issues out there this is the one people are picking out? Really?

The unemployment rate is 8.2%
Our national debt is over 16 trillion dollars
The President imposed Executive Privilege to cover up his administrations failed attempt to impose gun control
We are being forced to implement a new healthcare plan that a majority of Americans don't want and our leaders don't understand
Our economy is slowing down to the point of near recession and may be there by Q2 of next year
We have the MOST divisive president in American history inciting class warfare
More people are on food stamps than at any point in US history
Free speech is being threatened at every level (see chick fil a thread)
Being a Christian and supporter of Israel now makes me a bigot and a war warmongering neocon
Supporting capitalism makes me want poor people to die in the streets
Gun control is right around the corner
Cap and trade is being enacted by the EPA
Millions of ILLEGAL aliens have been granted amnesty
THOUSANDS of drones are spying on Americans every day or soon will be
Being a fan of Liberty makes me a domestic terrorist

WHAT THE FUC%!!!


And what O'Romney says in Israel is what people want to talk about?

Carry on.

My OP was just to point out what pretty much all politicians do in regard to pandering and speaking out of school. It is not an issue with me. I already have no respect for ANY of them. I understand they are all power hunger Dbags that want to control my life and spend the fruits of my labor on things that I do not want or need.

For the record....I have no problem with the state of Israel or Jews.