Interesting that you pulled that 40 years number out.

How'd that whole Great Society thing work out?

I'd say Johnson got his ass kicked in his war on poverty.

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  1.) Everybody that works and/or spends money pays taxes.

Almost everyone that works and a lot of people don't work. Illegals don't pay income taxes, welfare queens, gang gangers, prisoners, General Electric, .........is there an echo in here?

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 05:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 04:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Wow, a semantic gymnast in our midst.

Now, while you're on a roll, tell me the difference between voluntary and coerced.

To these fools there is no difference. They feel it is their "duty" to allow the government to redistribute their incomes to others.

News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

How does the government take from people who pay no taxes?

1.) Everybody that works and/or spends money pays taxes.

2.) When gov't allows companies to send jobs over seas while selling products here with no penalty, the gov't just took from the people.

You are so focused on the less fortunate, when over the past 40 years they have gotten poorer.

Fool, you don't know poor.

(06-30-2012 08:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 05:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 04:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Wow, a semantic gymnast in our midst.

Now, while you're on a roll, tell me the difference between voluntary and coerced.

To these fools there is no difference. They feel it is their "duty" to allow the government to redistribute their incomes to others.

News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

How does the government take from people who pay no taxes?

Who doesn't pay taxes?

Oh...Come on Robbie....You know you get yourself one of those "earned income tax credits"...

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 05:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 04:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Wow, a semantic gymnast in our midst.

Now, while you're on a roll, tell me the difference between voluntary and coerced.

To these fools there is no difference. They feel it is their "duty" to allow the government to redistribute their incomes to others.

News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

OK...Now I know you are just f'ng with us. Good work!!

(06-30-2012 08:52 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 05:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  To these fools there is no difference. They feel it is their "duty" to allow the government to redistribute their incomes to others.

News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

How does the government take from people who pay no taxes?

Who doesn't pay taxes?

Illegals, welfare queens, gang bangers, prisoners, etc don't pay income taxes but get a free ride on ours. Also, illegals and many other groups utilize black market services and don't pay sales taxes.

I'm willing to be you pay less taxes than a guy who makes a million bucks but use more government services than he does.

And THIS is another reason we should install a national sales tax and do away with the current system of theft. The moochers, evaders and criminals... will either contribute or starve.

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 05:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 04:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Wow, a semantic gymnast in our midst.

Now, while you're on a roll, tell me the difference between voluntary and coerced.

To these fools there is no difference. They feel it is their "duty" to allow the government to redistribute their incomes to others.

News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

How does the government take from people who pay no taxes?

1.) Everybody that works and/or spends money pays taxes.

2.) When gov't allows companies to send jobs over seas while selling products here with no penalty, the gov't just took from the people.

You are so focused on the less fortunate, when over the past 40 years they have gotten poorer.

Please try to keep up FB...The discussion is about Federal taxation. We all understand that everyone pays state sales tax and a a few taxes on the federal level like the gas tax. You do understand that the poor actually receive back refunds in excess of what they pay in?..If not? You need to educate yourself.

I find it sad that you support a party that installed "the great society" to help the poor and less fortunate and yet.. it is a TOTAL failure on almost every level. Good work. So much for making people slaves to poverty. You should be ashamed that you support modern slavery.

(06-30-2012 09:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You are so focused on the less fortunate, when over the past 40 years they have gotten poorer.

No they haven't.

Correct...I see these MOFO's everywhere with smartphones and bluetooth yapping away about "Baby Daddy not paying child support".

(06-30-2012 09:10 PM)maximus Wrote:  Shovel ready infrastructure jobs

Have heard that **** too many times.

and student loans are a trillion dollar bubble. the sad thing is the return on all those dollars is bunch of the useless classes taken

I must give Barry cred and approval for the "shovel ready sh!t". If I am going to be stolen from...at least some damn roads are being fixed with it.

(06-30-2012 10:15 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 05:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  To these fools there is no difference. They feel it is their "duty" to allow the government to redistribute their incomes to others.

News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

How does the government take from people who pay no taxes?

Who doesn't pay taxes?

Oh...Come on Robbie....You know you get yourself one of those "earned income tax credits"...

Actually, I don't. I don't have a government cell phone, recieve food stamps or medicaid either. I make too much money.

(06-30-2012 10:18 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 05:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 04:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Wow, a semantic gymnast in our midst.

Now, while you're on a roll, tell me the difference between voluntary and coerced.

To these fools there is no difference. They feel it is their "duty" to allow the government to redistribute their incomes to others.

News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

OK...Now I know you are just f'ng with us. Good work!!

In your deluded fantasy world that isn't happening.

(06-30-2012 10:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:52 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  News Flash: Gov't has already been redistributing wealth from poor to rich for a while.

How does the government take from people who pay no taxes?

Who doesn't pay taxes?

Illegals, welfare queens, gang bangers, prisoners, etc don't pay income taxes but get a free ride on ours. Also, illegals and many other groups utilize black market services and don't pay sales taxes.

I'm willing to be you pay less taxes than a guy who makes a million bucks but use more government services than he does.

And THIS is another reason we should install a national sales tax and do away with the current system of theft. The moochers, evaders and criminals... will either contribute or starve.

I can't believe that you still think that would work.

(06-30-2012 10:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You are so focused on the less fortunate, when over the past 40 years they have gotten poorer.

No they haven't.

Correct...I see these MOFO's everywhere with smartphones and bluetooth yapping away about "Baby Daddy not paying child support".

Maury Povich/Jerry Springer shows aren't a majority of the country.

(07-01-2012 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 10:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:52 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 08:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  How does the government take from people who pay no taxes?

Who doesn't pay taxes?

Illegals, welfare queens, gang bangers, prisoners, etc don't pay income taxes but get a free ride on ours. Also, illegals and many other groups utilize black market services and don't pay sales taxes.

I'm willing to be you pay less taxes than a guy who makes a million bucks but use more government services than he does.

And THIS is another reason we should install a national sales tax and do away with the current system of theft. The moochers, evaders and criminals... will either contribute or starve.

I can't believe that you still think that would work.

Are these people suddenly going to stop buying things? You already have made the point that everyone pays sales tax now. Why is this unworkable at the national level? Let's not forget that ONLY individuals actually pay taxes anyway. Businesses include this burden in the price of their goods and services. Why not just eliminate this unnecessary nonsense of even having to file a tax return? Make the system totally transparent instead of allowing loopholes and tax breaks to those that do not need them or deserve them. Just think about what you could do with the money that is being extracted from your paycheck. YOU would get to have at least some choice of how, where and when you pay this tax. Hell...you could just choose to save it, earn dividends on the money you would lost to the government and defer those taxes until later.

(07-01-2012 12:44 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 10:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You are so focused on the less fortunate, when over the past 40 years they have gotten poorer.

No they haven't.

Correct...I see these MOFO's everywhere with smartphones and bluetooth yapping away about "Baby Daddy not paying child support".

Maury Povich/Jerry Springer shows aren't a majority of the country.

I don't know...I see these people all over the place. I saw a guy yesterday wearing a shirt that read...."This is what awesome is all about". There was nothing even slightly awesome about this Gomer.

(06-30-2012 08:03 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 06:55 AM)TOGC Wrote:  Hey conservatives:

How about one of you be honest and openly admit that you don't give a f*ck about America or anyone else but yourself? I would at least have some respect for your honesty.
I'm waiting.

Which is why do many join the military service to protect it.

Try again, moron.

For you, it was either that or flipping burgers. Surprised they let you in.

(06-30-2012 10:12 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Dude, you're the one who doesn't respect the Constitution, wants Americans relaced with Latinos and Muslims, apologies for America, and is trying to kill the economic and industrial machine that made this country great. Conservatives want none of that crap.

I keep forgetting that conservatives are racist ba$tards.

(06-30-2012 09:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  1.) Everybody that works and/or spends money pays taxes.

Almost everyone that works and a lot of people don't work. Illegals don't pay income taxes, welfare queens, gang gangers, prisoners, General Electric, .........is there an echo in here?

America has no welfare queens. It was another Reagan lie.

(07-01-2012 02:48 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 10:12 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Dude, you're the one who doesn't respect the Constitution, wants Americans relaced with Latinos and Muslims, apologies for America, and is trying to kill the economic and industrial machine that made this country great. Conservatives want none of that crap.

I keep forgetting that conservatives are racist ba$tards.

So wanting to keep my country from becoming North Mexico with sharia law is racist?

(07-01-2012 02:49 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:13 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  1.) Everybody that works and/or spends money pays taxes.

Almost everyone that works and a lot of people don't work. Illegals don't pay income taxes, welfare queens, gang gangers, prisoners, General Electric, .........is there an echo in here?

America has no welfare queens. It was another Reagan lie.

You might be right, queens usually have some value, some worth.