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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 12:05 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 11:46 AM)CougarRed Wrote: If the 5 "contract" leagues tie up 5 slots out of 12, and have a virtual deathgrip most years on the 4 semifinal spots, then the remaining 3 at-large spots MUST go to other conference champs ranked in the Top 12-16 FIRST before distributed to 3rd place teams from the Big 10, etc.
Or else there will be a massive lawsuit.
SOS is going to be a factor along with being a conference champ.
That should kill any SEC team from consideration. Nobody plays an easier OOC schedule than SEC teams, at least 3 cupcakes.
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 12:08 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:05 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 11:46 AM)CougarRed Wrote: If the 5 "contract" leagues tie up 5 slots out of 12, and have a virtual deathgrip most years on the 4 semifinal spots, then the remaining 3 at-large spots MUST go to other conference champs ranked in the Top 12-16 FIRST before distributed to 3rd place teams from the Big 10, etc.
Or else there will be a massive lawsuit.
SOS is going to be a factor along with being a conference champ.
That should kill any SEC team from consideration. Nobody plays an easier OOC schedule than SEC teams, at least 3 cupcakes.
Let me know how that works out.
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curtis0620
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 12:10 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:08 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:05 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 11:46 AM)CougarRed Wrote: If the 5 "contract" leagues tie up 5 slots out of 12, and have a virtual deathgrip most years on the 4 semifinal spots, then the remaining 3 at-large spots MUST go to other conference champs ranked in the Top 12-16 FIRST before distributed to 3rd place teams from the Big 10, etc.
Or else there will be a massive lawsuit.
SOS is going to be a factor along with being a conference champ.
That should kill any SEC team from consideration. Nobody plays an easier OOC schedule than SEC teams, at least 3 cupcakes.
Let me know how that works out.
Yes, SOS is only applied to the BE and other lower conferences.
If anybody says that there is no bias to the SEC, then you are a liar.
(This post was last modified: 06-28-2012 12:14 PM by curtis0620.)
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 12:13 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:10 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:08 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:05 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 11:46 AM)CougarRed Wrote: If the 5 "contract" leagues tie up 5 slots out of 12, and have a virtual deathgrip most years on the 4 semifinal spots, then the remaining 3 at-large spots MUST go to other conference champs ranked in the Top 12-16 FIRST before distributed to 3rd place teams from the Big 10, etc.
Or else there will be a massive lawsuit.
SOS is going to be a factor along with being a conference champ.
That should kill any SEC team from consideration. Nobody plays an easier OOC schedule than SEC teams, at least 3 cupcakes.
Let me know how that works out.
Yes, SOS is only applied to the BE and other lower conferences.
If anybody says that there is no bias to the SEC, then you are a liar.
I guess based on your definition that makes me a liar....or maybe the past 6 national championship games had something to do with my (and most others) thoughts on the quality of football in the SEC.
I agree with your first statement although it will be interesting to see how the ACC is considered......especially if they lose teams to the B12.
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curtis0620
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 12:17 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:13 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:10 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:08 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:05 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: SOS is going to be a factor along with being a conference champ.
That should kill any SEC team from consideration. Nobody plays an easier OOC schedule than SEC teams, at least 3 cupcakes.
Let me know how that works out.
Yes, SOS is only applied to the BE and other lower conferences.
If anybody says that there is no bias to the SEC, then you are a liar.
I guess based on your definition that makes me a liar....or maybe the past 6 national championship games had something to do with my (and most others) thoughts on the quality of football in the SEC.
I agree with your first statement although it will be interesting to see how the ACC is considered......especially if they lose teams to the B12.
OK St should have played LSU.
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 12:20 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:17 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:13 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:10 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:08 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: That should kill any SEC team from consideration. Nobody plays an easier OOC schedule than SEC teams, at least 3 cupcakes.
Let me know how that works out.
Yes, SOS is only applied to the BE and other lower conferences.
If anybody says that there is no bias to the SEC, then you are a liar.
I guess based on your definition that makes me a liar....or maybe the past 6 national championship games had something to do with my (and most others) thoughts on the quality of football in the SEC.
I agree with your first statement although it will be interesting to see how the ACC is considered......especially if they lose teams to the B12.
OK St should have played LSU.
I agree. however in a 4 team playoff, Alabama should be in.
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 12:21 PM)stever20 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:20 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:17 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:13 PM)curtis0620 Wrote: (06-28-2012 12:10 PM)EerMeNow Wrote: Let me know how that works out.
Yes, SOS is only applied to the BE and other lower conferences.
If anybody says that there is no bias to the SEC, then you are a liar.
I guess based on your definition that makes me a liar....or maybe the past 6 national championship games had something to do with my (and most others) thoughts on the quality of football in the SEC.
I agree with your first statement although it will be interesting to see how the ACC is considered......especially if they lose teams to the B12.
OK St should have played LSU.
I agree. however in a 4 team playoff, Alabama should be in.
I Agree for last year.
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RE: Question re: "Contract" Bowls
There will be anywhere from 3 - 7 at large teams per year. For example, let's say the Champions bowl hosts a semi-final, and the SEC and Big 12 have 2 of the top 4 teams. Let's say they happen to meet in the Champions bowl semi-final. In that case you would have at least 5 at large teams. Now, chances are, another SEC and B12 team would be chosen as an at large for another bowl, but it's not gauranteed.
In this scenario you would have:
Champions Bowl (semifinal) : SEC vs. B12
Orange Bowl (Semifinal): Team A vs. Team B from any other conf. But let's say ACC vs. ND
Rose: B10 vs Pac12
Fiesta: At large vs. at large
Bowl X: At large vs. at large
Bowl Y: At large vs at large
In this scenario, you have all the conferences with contractual tie ins playing in a "BCS Bowl", but you still have 6 slots available (many of which will be taken by SEC, Big 10, etc.).
Whether there are 3 or 7 at large spots will be determined by if a contractual bowl also hosts the semifinal and has one of their contracted conferences teams playing in it
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 11:46 AM)CougarRed Wrote: If the 5 "contract" leagues tie up 5 slots out of 12, and have a virtual deathgrip most years on the 4 semifinal spots, then the remaining 3 at-large spots MUST go to other conference champs ranked in the Top 12-16 FIRST before distributed to 3rd place teams from the Big 10, etc.
Or else there will be a massive lawsuit.
Why?
What is any different than now? It will be based on merit, when there is no basis if they aren't ranked higher, or market value, when there still is no basis.
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RE: Question re: "Contract" Bowls
It will be based on the selection committee's decisions, apparently. There apparently will be no formal "ranking" of teams that the committee must follow, only some non-binding ranking of all teams that they use as they wish, like the alleged RPI-with-secret-sauce that the basketball selection committee has.
Suing over a selection committee's decisions will be no more successful than an NIT team suing over not getting an invitation to the NCAA tournament.
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 02:06 PM)Wedge Wrote: It will be based on the selection committee's decisions, apparently. There apparently will be no formal "ranking" of teams that the committee must follow, only some non-binding ranking of all teams that they use as they wish, like the alleged RPI-with-secret-sauce that the basketball selection committee has.
Suing over a selection committee's decisions will be no more successful than an NIT team suing over not getting an invitation to the NCAA tournament.
Your correct. No transparancy. The idea is to make it as black boxish as possible so they cant be questioned. Of course AP and USA Today will keep putting out a poll, so the crooked little committee will still be exposed. They just wont really care.
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RE: Question "Contract" Bowls
(06-28-2012 02:06 PM)Wedge Wrote: It will be based on the selection committee's decisions, apparently. There apparently will be no formal "ranking" of teams that the committee must follow, only some non-binding ranking of all teams that they use as they wish, like the alleged RPI-with-secret-sauce that the basketball selection committee has.
Suing over a selection committee's decisions will be no more successful than an NIT team suing over not getting an invitation to the NCAA tournament.
They're apparently going to publish rankings during the season. There will be plenty of time to move the "right" teams up and the "right" teams down--if they want to go against the AP poll, they'll have telegraphed that long in advance that, say, AP #5 Houston is #15 in the Committee rankings.
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