I know that may sound crazy and off the wall, but look at the state now. The state has a total of 12 FBS Schools, is it just me or does it just make since for them and other larger states to have their own conferences? This is totally off the wall but I just curious what everyone thought about this.

(06-22-2012 03:09 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  I know that may sound crazy and off the wall, but look at the state now. The state has a total of 12 FBS Schools, is it just me or does it just make since for them and other larger states to have their own conferences? This is totally off the wall but I just curious what everyone thought about this.

Nope, won't work. The old SWC went away because it was basically an all Texas conference plus Arkansas. Gotta be a little broader than just one state for a successful conference.

(06-22-2012 03:09 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  I know that may sound crazy and off the wall, but look at the state now. The state has a total of 12 FBS Schools, is it just me or does it just make since for them and other larger states to have their own conferences? This is totally off the wall but I just curious what everyone thought about this.

Texas was not in favor of being in the same conference as TCU, you think they want anything to do with UNT, SMU, UTEP, UTSA, Rice, Houston, or Texas State?

I know Texas thinks they are superior to pretty much every D1 school in the state of Texas. Do you think how much publicity would generate in Texas? It would be a civil war in the state!!!

(06-22-2012 03:26 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  I know Texas thinks they are superior to pretty much every D1 school in the state of Texas. Do you think how much publicity would generate in Texas? It would be a civil war in the state!!!

Actually UT has the wealthiest and most profitable college sports program in the entire country.

No.

You could never get most of the Texas schools to agree. A Texas only conference would be too regional. That is the problem the SWC had after Arkansas left.

(06-22-2012 03:09 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  I know that may sound crazy and off the wall, but look at the state now. The state has a total of 12 FBS Schools, is it just me or does it just make since for them and other larger states to have their own conferences? This is totally off the wall but I just curious what everyone thought about this.

Even the state of Texas isn't big enough for all those egos to be crammed into one place.

This work great back before TV took over things..

you can split Texas teams up and get more $$$$ but less together....

I like it better to have teams split up.. even though we were the lone Texas team in the MWC I always wanted one more To join..

But I love for TCU to play all Texas team and love watching others play..

Texas would implode! Brother would turn on sister and so forth.

Texas teams do play each other, but to try and have them all in the same just wouldn't work. UNT has played every FBS team in the state and I'm sure the others have also.

I don't know how much the other schools outside of Texas would like this either.

According to the bleacher report (yeah, I know... they are a joke, but really... how bad can they screw up hard numbers?), from 2006-2011, Texas produced the second most number of top 150 recruits and had 6 top 10 recruits. That's crazy high numbers that (in theory) most schools wouldn't really have access to if they aren't playing a Texas school or playing in Texas often.

(06-22-2012 03:42 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 03:26 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  I know Texas thinks they are superior to pretty much every D1 school in the state of Texas. Do you think how much publicity would generate in Texas? It would be a civil war in the state!!!

Actually UT has the wealthiest and most profitable college sports program in the entire country.

Proving once again that Texas thinks they are superior to every D1 school anywhere -- and probably superior to the Dallas Cowboys.

(06-24-2012 12:28 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 03:42 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 03:26 PM)trojanblood Wrote:  I know Texas thinks they are superior to pretty much every D1 school in the state of Texas. Do you think how much publicity would generate in Texas? It would be a civil war in the state!!!

Actually UT has the wealthiest and most profitable college sports program in the entire country.

Proving once again that Texas thinks they are superior to every D1 school anywhere -- and probably superior to the Dallas Cowboys.

How is that proving anything? I think he just stated facts. I hate UT but to argue the invalidity of thei athletic department's superiority is fruitless, they are and will continue to be the wealthiest of any university out there for quite some time.

If any 2 states could pull off a "State of" confrence it would be Texas and Florida.

Florida would need a couple to move up, but it could be done.

UF
FSU
UM
USF
UCF
FAU
FIU
FAMU

There's already an almost all Texas conference in D-II.

(06-25-2012 11:49 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  If any 2 states could pull off a "State of" confrence it would be Texas and Florida.

Florida would need a couple to move up, but it could be done.

UF
FSU
UM
USF
UCF
FAU
FIU
FAMU

Cal could do it. USC, UCLA, Stanford, California, Fresno St, San Jose State, and San Diego State, you'd only need one move up, probably like Cal State Fullerton.

I also didn't realize, Ohio has enough already to be an FBS conference. They have Ohio State, Ohio, Cincinnati, Kent State, Miami of Ohio, Toledo, Akron, and Bowling Green. Sadly, most of those teams are already in a conference with each other.

the problem is that it is only exciting to play other teams when those other teams have a history of being good

when you have 12 teams from the same state you will have at least 5 of those teams that totally and completely suck.....over time that starts to stick and it is next to impossible for a team to dig their way out of it as recruits refuse to go there and as fans refuse to show up or support the program

there were times in the SWC that every team was able to be competitive, but with only 11 games being played and only 7 conference games (after Arkansas left) it was possible for some teams to win most if not all of their OOC games and them sneak in a few wins in conference and have a decent win......this was also back in a time when college athletes were not all "goin' uh da proz!!" and they actually cared about the education they were getting for free so they still made a choice to choose some schools because of academics like Rice, SMU, Baylor, or TCU or because a school had academics and was close to home as well

with 12 teams and 8 in conference games you will have a few very good teams, a bunch of 7-5 and 6-6 and 5-7 and a bunch of crap or you will have a few more pretty good teams and a ton of crap and since 50% of D1-A athletes probably can't spell education much less care about one it quickly becomes a case where the crap stays at the bottom and eventually some schools are carrying the others or people just don't care about playing others because it is always a win and not competitive and the entire conference starts to suffer......that is why there were so many recruits going out of state at the end of the SWC because they were either going to UT, TAMU, or having to try and decide of UH or Tech or perhaps Baylor was going to be competitive while they were there and if not then they went elsewhere

part of the reason that TCU was able to climb back up and do so well is because they decided to offer something different.....instead of being one of 5 Texas teams in CUSA with several of them beating up on others each year they decided they would go somewhere they could offer something different and once they were able to start winning that became appealing to many recruits not going to Big 12 schools VS playing the guessing game of what one of the CUSA schools might be good while they were there

4 is the MAX number of Texas teams that a conference can take before it starts to become a detriment to those schools and the conference......with the Big 12 at only 10 teams and only 3 OOC games 4 might be one too many, but we will see

UH and SMU should benefit from being able to offer something different and from being able to have a Texas rivalry while both of them can have the opportunity beat up in the OOC and then face each other with a decent record

TAMU would benefit from the SEC, but they keep hiring the wrong guy at the wrong time and the SEC is tough and TAMU is moving into the SEC on another of their downward slides which might be hard to climb out of if the Big 12 teams in Texas remain competitive and if SMU and UH can keep improving

not to mention what has already been said about a total and complete lack of national appeal to 12 Texas teams all beating up on each other......probably part of the reason many of the Ohio schools have never really been able to break out.......you are either OSU or you are MAC for the most part

and probably part of the reason the FLA schools have been able to keep some success and some of them have moved up.....one in the SEC, two in the BE then ACC, then one in the BE, then two in the BE and two in the belt now one in the belt and one in CUSA....teams had a chance to get traction and play each other for an in state rival with decent records VS a sifting of teams to the top and bottom perpetually with no national appeal

(06-25-2012 01:35 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the problem is that it is only exciting to play other teams when those other teams have a history of being good

when you have 12 teams from the same state you will have at least 5 of those teams that totally and completely suck.....over time that starts to stick and it is next to impossible for a team to dig their way out of it as recruits refuse to go there and as fans refuse to show up or support the program

there were times in the SWC that every team was able to be competitive, but with only 11 games being played and only 7 conference games (after Arkansas left) it was possible for some teams to win most if not all of their OOC games and them sneak in a few wins in conference and have a decent win......this was also back in a time when college athletes were not all "goin' uh da proz!!" and they actually cared about the education they were getting for free so they still made a choice to choose some schools because of academics like Rice, SMU, Baylor, or TCU or because a school had academics and was close to home as well

with 12 teams and 8 in conference games you will have a few very good teams, a bunch of 7-5 and 6-6 and 5-7 and a bunch of crap or you will have a few more pretty good teams and a ton of crap and since 50% of D1-A athletes probably can't spell education much less care about one it quickly becomes a case where the crap stays at the bottom and eventually some schools are carrying the others or people just don't care about playing others because it is always a win and not competitive and the entire conference starts to suffer......that is why there were so many recruits going out of state at the end of the SWC because they were either going to UT, TAMU, or having to try and decide of UH or Tech or perhaps Baylor was going to be competitive while they were there and if not then they went elsewhere

part of the reason that TCU was able to climb back up and do so well is because they decided to offer something different.....instead of being one of 5 Texas teams in CUSA with several of them beating up on others each year they decided they would go somewhere they could offer something different and once they were able to start winning that became appealing to many recruits not going to Big 12 schools VS playing the guessing game of what one of the CUSA schools might be good while they were there

4 is the MAX number of Texas teams that a conference can take before it starts to become a detriment to those schools and the conference......with the Big 12 at only 10 teams and only 3 OOC games 4 might be one too many, but we will see

UH and SMU should benefit from being able to offer something different and from being able to have a Texas rivalry while both of them can have the opportunity beat up in the OOC and then face each other with a decent record

TAMU would benefit from the SEC, but they keep hiring the wrong guy at the wrong time and the SEC is tough and TAMU is moving into the SEC on another of their downward slides which might be hard to climb out of if the Big 12 teams in Texas remain competitive and if SMU and UH can keep improving

not to mention what has already been said about a total and complete lack of national appeal to 12 Texas teams all beating up on each other......probably part of the reason many of the Ohio schools have never really been able to break out.......you are either OSU or you are MAC for the most part

and probably part of the reason the FLA schools have been able to keep some success and some of them have moved up.....one in the SEC, two in the BE then ACC, then one in the BE, then two in the BE and two in the belt now one in the belt and one in CUSA....teams had a chance to get traction and play each other for an in state rival with decent records VS a sifting of teams to the top and bottom perpetually with no national appeal

Good write up.. its better to have Texas team in other conference but even though we were lone team in Texas we keep SMU so you need at lease one Texas school play each year...

Hell A&M Still wants to play Texas... and being in the SEC West they should be glad Texas giving it a break, they still have got other Texas schools to play so all well...