(06-09-2012 10:43 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-09-2012 10:41 PM)ShockerBob Wrote:  Can someone tell me wtf North Texas has done the last 80 years in College Football..

FIFY

Nothing. I never claimed to have a superior football team, did I? We have a better stadium, equal academics, a better basketball team but an embarrassingly bad football team. Point being? I told you why I picked UNT over UH and you got offended.

(06-09-2012 10:41 PM)ShockerBob Wrote:  Can someone tell me wtf North Texas has done the last 20 years in College Football..

They had a semi-decent run in the early 2000's but they were playing the Sunbelt that consisted of a bunch of tiny budget FBS move ups. Before and after that (within the 20 yr span) UNT hasn't done much. Houston had a great run the past 5 years. 15 years prior to that Houston was pretty horrible. Recent and ancient history strongly favors UH.

I try not to move threads, but this one was overdue.

(06-09-2012 10:47 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2012 10:41 PM)ShockerBob Wrote:  Can someone tell me wtf North Texas has done the last 20 years in College Football..

They had a semi-decent run in the early 2000's but they were playing the Sunbelt that consisted of a bunch of tiny budget FBS move ups. Before and after that (within the 20 yr span) UNT hasn't done much. Houston had a great run the past 5 years. 15 years prior to that Houston was pretty horrible. Recent and ancient history strongly favors UH.

North Texas was pretty good in the 70s. Things would probably have gone a bit differently had we beaten Texas under Hayden Fry. But, yeah, football strongly favors UH. Obviously.

Wow, this thing actually took a "he started it" turn a few pages back. Here's a thought: outclass these guys and be a respectful poster who doesn't need rankings and article snippets to prove his worth. Nobody I work with questions whether North Texas grads can be successful or upwardly mobile. Carry yourself as such and move on, just my opinion.

Now if we want to talk sports, we do have a game against Houston coming up this fall. Honestly, I expect the game to be closer than our last meeting. We will still be heavy underdogs, but I expect the team to play two full halves this time around. It's too bad we don't play in basketball next year.

(06-09-2012 10:51 PM)PerryGreen Wrote:  Wow, this thing actually took a "he started it" turn a few pages back. Here's a thought: outclass these guys and be a respectful poster who doesn't need rankings and article snippets to prove his worth. Nobody I work with questions whether North Texas grads can be successful or upwardly mobile. Carry yourself as such and move on, just my opinion.

Now if we want to talk sports, we do have a game against Houston coming up this fall. Honestly, I expect the game to be closer than our last meeting. We will still be heavy underdogs, but I expect the team to play two full halves this time around. It's too bad we don't play in basketball next year.

I expect a win.

(06-09-2012 10:48 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  I try not to move threads, but this one was overdue.

Thank you sir!!

(06-09-2012 10:20 PM)meangreener Wrote:  Actually, yup. Programs are ranked similarly, not to mention UNT has a lower acceptance rate and a higher 4 year graduation rate. So, you aspire to Tech's heights? Good luck with the Raider Rash. We're similar, but on opposite sides of the spectrum. UH is more of a mechanical school, UNT more liberal. Thus the difference in endowment money, it's no secret that liberal arts don't make as much money as engineering and math.

acceptance % is a meaningless stat.....it assumes that a university has control over the number of applicants and the quality of those applicants

if 1,000 students apply to a university with a 4.0 GPA and a 1350 SAT and all 1,000 are accepted then that school would have a 100% acceptance rate

while another school might have 5,000 applicants and 1,000 of them are accepted with a 3.25 GPA and a 1000 SAT and that school would have a 20% acceptance rate even though the school with the 100% acceptance rate had much better students

if you don't believe that acceptance % is meaningless go to this link and tell everyone that the schools with a lower acceptance rate are better than North Texas State-Denton

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...esult/TX+y

I look forward to you admitting that Texas Southern, PVAMU, UH-Victoria, and Paul Quinn are all better than North Texas State-Denton

and North Texas State Denton has a better graduation rate at the 4 and 5 year mark, but UH is ahead at the 6 year mark which means that over time (6 years) UH graduates more of their total student body than North Texas State-Denton does....while sooner to graduate can pay off for some the goal is to get the degree overall

here are the 6 year rates from 2008-2010 from the THECB

North Texas state-Denton

67.2% 68.7% 70.6%

UH

69.5% 68.9% 71.4%

(06-09-2012 10:31 PM)meangreener Wrote:  UH continues to beat their chest and talk about Tier 1 as if the only thing that matters is endowment.

Not true.

Anyway, Texas has made it clear that they are now making Tier 1 much wider than it formerly was. So, you are still not in the elite A&M, UT group and even if you hit Tier 1, same deal, buddy. Because it's highly likely that when UH hits Tier 1, that TTU, TSSM, UTD, UNT, and UTSA will also get tier 1 funding.

From the mouth of another UH grad I know: "We're Tier 1, but everyone still knows we're just UH." Apathetic graduates, man.

endowment is only 1 criteria for getting NRUF funding.....UH met 4 criteria and the restricted research criteria and UH and Texas Tech are getting NRUF funding starting next year

North Texas State-Denton did not meet the restricted research criteria and they only met one of the other 6 criteria so North Texas state-Denton will not be getting NRUF funding any time soon and in fact the "goal" for North Texas State-Denton to get NRUF funding is 2018 and they are already behind on their "goals" for growing restricted research to make the 2018 "goal"

and Texas did not make the criteria "wider" they elevated TxState to emerging research based on TxState meeting the criteria to be classified as an emerging research university, but the criteria for NRUF funding remain the same......45 million in restricted research and then also meeting 4 out of 6 criteria

UH also enrolls a larger % of students in the top 10% of their HS class....and since UH is a larger university and since students in the top 10% of their HS class have a choice of any public university in Texas (other than UT currently and possibly TAMU in the future) that means that students in the top 10% of their HS class make a CHOICE to attend UH over North Texas State-Denton

here are the %s from 2007-2011

North Texas State-Denton

15.5% 16.4% 16.5% 17.7% 18.7%

UH

17.7% 15.9% 17.6% 18.6% 27.9%

North Texas State Denton was ahead a single year, but UH still moved ahead again the next year and put a great deal of distance on North Texas State-Denton in 2011

and it is funny you accuse UH of putting diversity ahead of academics when it is actually North Texas State-Denton that decided to not increase enrollment requirements for 2012 or 2013 while UH has increased theirs over North Texas State-Denton since 2011 and they will increase them again in the next two years

http://www.uh.edu/admissions/apply/apply.../index.php

http://www.unt.edu/vwbk/admission.htm

UH also has higher admissions for engineering, their ranked college of business, and their ranked college of hotel restaurant management

you say UH is a "mechanical" school (whatever that is), but you leave out their ranked college of business, their ranked hotel restaurant programs, their natural sciences, their architecture, their pharmacy, and their optometry programs

(06-09-2012 10:39 PM)meangreener Wrote:  We meet three. Our endowment is increasing at a rapid pace; it already will increase by an astronomical $90 million at the start of the 2012 fall semester. Who knows, we may hit the PhD one soon, we're pretty close.

this is incorrect....North Texas State-Denton met a single criteria out of the 6.....they are a member of Phi Kappa Phi.......and every one of the emerging research universities met that criteria except for TxState.....at the time of the report UTSA did not meet that criteria, but since then UTSA is now listed on the Phi Kappa Phi website as a member and I am sure TxState will be sooner than later

that particular criteria could have been met 3 ways......member of Phi Beta Kappa, member of Phi Kappa Phi, or a national research library........Texas Tech was all 3 and UH was a member of PKP and an NRL.......all of the others met that criteria by being a member of PKP

so North Texas State-Denton tied with UTSA meeting a single criteria out of 6 while UTA and UTEP met two and UTD met three with UH and Texas Tech meeting 4

North Texas State-Denton is dead last behind even TxState in the first criteria that must be met (45 million in restricted research) and they are behind their "planned goals" by several million dollars just a year into that "plan"

(06-09-2012 10:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  North Texas was pretty good in the 70s. Things would probably have gone a bit differently had we beaten Texas under Hayden Fry. But, yeah, football strongly favors UH. Obviously.

sure if you consider 5 losing seasons, 4 winning seasons, and one 5-5 season as "good" along with 52-55 overall

and UH has actually beaten Texas 7 out of 23 times while North Texas State-Denton is 0-9 (1-8 if you give them "the refs stoleded dat won!!")

North Texas is so awesome.

North Texas in a pissing contest with Houston?

Mean Green fans better get a booster seat and a ladder.

Good lord this thread is being ruined by UNT fans. I have a degree from Tech as well as pursuing a 2nd degree from UNT. UH has made tremendous strides in the last few years and their fans are showing up in record numbers. UNT would be lucky to have the support UH has now.

Before I get neg repped, I know the difference. UH isn't the same "coog high" as many of our friends in Lubbock, Waco, College Station and Austin like to call them. They aren't "Tier 1" like their administration claims but their academics have improved. I have enjoyed spending a few semesters on the UNT campus and appreciate the Profs. The new Business Leadership Building is amazing and provides a great opportunity for future students. Since I'm graduating in the fall, I was forced to take their stupid Business Policy class and the Professor preached to us that we needed to give back to the University and that UT, A&M, Tech aren't better than us.

I kinda laughed at that considering UNT's endowment and general lack of support from the student body. I heard 1 student ***** that he had to give $10 to the Alumni association when he turned in his graduation packet.

I have given UH fans a ton of crap over TV markets and Tier 1 but when UNT can get in the same ballpark as Tech and UH, I will then consider UNT to be an equal and this is coming from a future UNT fall 2012 grad.

(06-10-2012 12:30 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(06-09-2012 10:20 PM)meangreener Wrote:  Actually, yup. Programs are ranked similarly, not to mention UNT has a lower acceptance rate and a higher 4 year graduation rate. So, you aspire to Tech's heights? Good luck with the Raider Rash. We're similar, but on opposite sides of the spectrum. UH is more of a mechanical school, UNT more liberal. Thus the difference in endowment money, it's no secret that liberal arts don't make as much money as engineering and math.

acceptance % is a meaningless stat.....it assumes that a university has control over the number of applicants and the quality of those applicants

if 1,000 students apply to a university with a 4.0 GPA and a 1350 SAT and all 1,000 are accepted then that school would have a 100% acceptance rate

while another school might have 5,000 applicants and 1,000 of them are accepted with a 3.25 GPA and a 1000 SAT and that school would have a 20% acceptance rate even though the school with the 100% acceptance rate had much better students

if you don't believe that acceptance % is meaningless go to this link and tell everyone that the schools with a lower acceptance rate are better than North Texas State-Denton

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...esult/TX+y

I look forward to you admitting that Texas Southern, PVAMU, UH-Victoria, and Paul Quinn are all better than North Texas State-Denton

and North Texas State Denton has a better graduation rate at the 4 and 5 year mark, but UH is ahead at the 6 year mark which means that over time (6 years) UH graduates more of their total student body than North Texas State-Denton does....while sooner to graduate can pay off for some the goal is to get the degree overall

here are the 6 year rates from 2008-2010 from the THECB

North Texas state-Denton

67.2% 68.7% 70.6%

UH

69.5% 68.9% 71.4%

(06-09-2012 10:31 PM)meangreener Wrote:  UH continues to beat their chest and talk about Tier 1 as if the only thing that matters is endowment.

Not true.

Anyway, Texas has made it clear that they are now making Tier 1 much wider than it formerly was. So, you are still not in the elite A&M, UT group and even if you hit Tier 1, same deal, buddy. Because it's highly likely that when UH hits Tier 1, that TTU, TSSM, UTD, UNT, and UTSA will also get tier 1 funding.

From the mouth of another UH grad I know: "We're Tier 1, but everyone still knows we're just UH." Apathetic graduates, man.

endowment is only 1 criteria for getting NRUF funding.....UH met 4 criteria and the restricted research criteria and UH and Texas Tech are getting NRUF funding starting next year

North Texas State-Denton did not meet the restricted research criteria and they only met one of the other 6 criteria so North Texas state-Denton will not be getting NRUF funding any time soon and in fact the "goal" for North Texas State-Denton to get NRUF funding is 2018 and they are already behind on their "goals" for growing restricted research to make the 2018 "goal"

and Texas did not make the criteria "wider" they elevated TxState to emerging research based on TxState meeting the criteria to be classified as an emerging research university, but the criteria for NRUF funding remain the same......45 million in restricted research and then also meeting 4 out of 6 criteria

UH also enrolls a larger % of students in the top 10% of their HS class....and since UH is a larger university and since students in the top 10% of their HS class have a choice of any public university in Texas (other than UT currently and possibly TAMU in the future) that means that students in the top 10% of their HS class make a CHOICE to attend UH over North Texas State-Denton

here are the %s from 2007-2011

North Texas State-Denton

15.5% 16.4% 16.5% 17.7% 18.7%

UH

17.7% 15.9% 17.6% 18.6% 27.9%

North Texas State Denton was ahead a single year, but UH still moved ahead again the next year and put a great deal of distance on North Texas State-Denton in 2011

and it is funny you accuse UH of putting diversity ahead of academics when it is actually North Texas State-Denton that decided to not increase enrollment requirements for 2012 or 2013 while UH has increased theirs over North Texas State-Denton since 2011 and they will increase them again in the next two years

http://www.uh.edu/admissions/apply/apply.../index.php

http://www.unt.edu/vwbk/admission.htm

UH also has higher admissions for engineering, their ranked college of business, and their ranked college of hotel restaurant management

you say UH is a "mechanical" school (whatever that is), but you leave out their ranked college of business, their ranked hotel restaurant programs, their natural sciences, their architecture, their pharmacy, and their optometry programs

(06-09-2012 10:39 PM)meangreener Wrote:  We meet three. Our endowment is increasing at a rapid pace; it already will increase by an astronomical $90 million at the start of the 2012 fall semester. Who knows, we may hit the PhD one soon, we're pretty close.

this is incorrect....North Texas State-Denton met a single criteria out of the 6.....they are a member of Phi Kappa Phi.......and every one of the emerging research universities met that criteria except for TxState.....at the time of the report UTSA did not meet that criteria, but since then UTSA is now listed on the Phi Kappa Phi website as a member and I am sure TxState will be sooner than later

that particular criteria could have been met 3 ways......member of Phi Beta Kappa, member of Phi Kappa Phi, or a national research library........Texas Tech was all 3 and UH was a member of PKP and an NRL.......all of the others met that criteria by being a member of PKP

so North Texas State-Denton tied with UTSA meeting a single criteria out of 6 while UTA and UTEP met two and UTD met three with UH and Texas Tech meeting 4

North Texas State-Denton is dead last behind even TxState in the first criteria that must be met (45 million in restricted research) and they are behind their "planned goals" by several million dollars just a year into that "plan"

(06-09-2012 10:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  North Texas was pretty good in the 70s. Things would probably have gone a bit differently had we beaten Texas under Hayden Fry. But, yeah, football strongly favors UH. Obviously.

sure if you consider 5 losing seasons, 4 winning seasons, and one 5-5 season as "good" along with 52-55 overall

and UH has actually beaten Texas 7 out of 23 times while North Texas State-Denton is 0-9 (1-8 if you give them "the refs stoleded dat won!!")

EPIC post is EPIC.

Good job on laying out the facts and putting all the bullsh*t to bed.

...Here goes TodgeRodge.

What's hilarious is that he's famous for being a very bitter UNT failure. He flunked from UNT and now attends TSSM after attending about 3 other schools. He follows us around and is quite possibly the most hilariously pathetic excuse for a human being troll, ever.

He once argued that TSSM was a superior school because they had more beds for students. No joke.

His stats and arguments are hilarious and irrelevant.

He once got told off by a UNT professor for being a complete troll ******* on just about everything UNT. He literally Googles "UNT Tier 1" just to post stupid, irrelevant and opinionated posts on anything UNT. He's just bitter because he flunked from his dear North Texas State-Denton and now attends Southwest Texas State Party School in San Marcos. I have done my research and buddy, I even have your transcript.

Kind of creepy, eh? I just did some digging to prove that you are just a bitter lost soul.

Please don't rely your arguments on his pathetic, innate logic. It just proves my point. Because, as usual, his poorly worded, poorly grammatically constructed comments are not backed up by statistics.

(06-10-2012 11:07 PM)meangreener Wrote:  ...Here goes TodgeRodge.

What's hilarious is that he's famous for being a very bitter UNT failure. He flunked from UNT and now attends TSSM after attending about 3 other schools. He follows us around and is quite possibly the most hilariously pathetic excuse for a human being troll, ever.

He once argued that TSSM was a superior school because they had more beds for students. No joke.

His stats and arguments are hilarious and irrelevant.

He once got told off by a UNT professor for being a complete troll ******* on just about everything UNT. He literally Googles "UNT Tier 1" just to post stupid, irrelevant and opinionated posts on anything UNT. He's just bitter because he flunked from his dear North Texas State-Denton and now attends Southwest Texas State Party School in San Marcos. I have done my research and buddy, I even have your transcript.

Kind of creepy, eh? I just did some digging to prove that you are just a bitter lost soul.

Please don't rely your arguments on his pathetic, innate logic. It just proves my point. Because, as usual, his poorly worded, poorly grammatically constructed comments are not backed up by statistics.

I did not fail out of North Texas State-Denton that is what idiots like you say to try and deflect from the reality that I post

I have never been a student at TxState though I did consider graduate school there

I say that TxState is a better school because they have a much higher graduation % at the 4, 5 and 6 year mark than North Texas State-Denton

and because TxState does more total research and more restricted research while offering way fewer PhD programs than North Texas State-Denton

Also TxState is able to start engineering programs and get them ABET accredited in time for their first graduating classes in those departments to qualify for taking the EIT....North Texas State-Denton fails to get their engineering programs accreditation in a timely fashion and they get their CS department placed on ABET accreditation probation and they have dropped engineering technology programs at a time when those degrees are in demand......they restarted the same department again and then considered dropping it yet again 8 or so years later putting the future of students in that program in jeopardy of having to find a new university......UH on the other hand has started a petroleum engineering undergrad program, a biomedical engineering program, and a subsea engineering program in the same time period.......North Texas State-Denton did start a "peace studies" program though that was the pet project of the now fired former president.......more of that artsy VS "mechanical" stuff......or really more of that supersize it VS get a real job stuff

the number of beds on campus was a comparison for North Texas State-Denton BSers trying to call every other school a commuter school when the reality is that North Texas State-Denton is still as much or more a commuter school than anywhere and that shows when the number of full time equivalents are compared as well VS part time students.......TxState undergrads take a slightly higher number of hours on average than North Texas state-Denton which is an indication of them having fewer part time and commuter students

I have no clue what you are talking about being told off by any North Texas State-Denton professor

you have no idea who I am or anything else about me......you make up BS about me to try and deflect from the reality of your crappy, apathy filled, commuter school filled with students that wish they were somewhere else and run by administrators that have more interest in the dallas ghetto than the Denton campus

the only digging you have done is in your ass and you have never seen my transcripts and it is creepy that you try and toss such BS out there to try and make you and your university not look like a joke....even creepier is that someone that claims to have access to college transcripts would put their job in jeopardy by claiming to have accessed a students records for personal reasons not related to academics and then posting about it on the WWW......if I even thought that was reality your job would be over and you would be in great legal jeopardy and your career in academia would be done for.......it would be as simple as having a lawyer contact North Texas state-Denton and asking them to see who was the last to access those records since there would not have been anyone having a reason to access them for years.....but I know you have not done that because I know you are full of **** just like all GMGers so I just laugh at you and your stupid attempts to deflect from proven REALITY with made up BS

you are a true idiot and a reflection of a true idiot university

(06-10-2012 11:39 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(06-10-2012 11:07 PM)meangreener Wrote:  ...Here goes TodgeRodge.

What's hilarious is that he's famous for being a very bitter UNT failure. He flunked from UNT and now attends TSSM after attending about 3 other schools. He follows us around and is quite possibly the most hilariously pathetic excuse for a human being troll, ever.

He once argued that TSSM was a superior school because they had more beds for students. No joke.

His stats and arguments are hilarious and irrelevant.

He once got told off by a UNT professor for being a complete troll ******* on just about everything UNT. He literally Googles "UNT Tier 1" just to post stupid, irrelevant and opinionated posts on anything UNT. He's just bitter because he flunked from his dear North Texas State-Denton and now attends Southwest Texas State Party School in San Marcos. I have done my research and buddy, I even have your transcript.

Kind of creepy, eh? I just did some digging to prove that you are just a bitter lost soul.

Please don't rely your arguments on his pathetic, innate logic. It just proves my point. Because, as usual, his poorly worded, poorly grammatically constructed comments are not backed up by statistics.

I did not fail out of North Texas State-Denton that is what idiots like you say to try and deflect from the reality that I post

I have never been a student at TxState though I did consider graduate school there

I say that TxState is a better school because they have a much higher graduation % at the 4, 5 and 6 year mark than North Texas State-Denton

and because TxState does more total research and more restricted research while offering way fewer PhD programs than North Texas State-Denton

the number of beds on campus was a comparison for North Texas State-Denton BSers trying to call every other school a commuter school when the reality is that North Texas State-Denton is still as much or more a commuter school than anywhere and that shows when the number of full time equivalents are compared as well VS part time students.......TxState undergrads take a slightly higher number of hours on average than North Texas state-Denton which is an indication of them having fewer part time and commuter students

I have no clue what you are talking about being told off by any North Texas State-Denton professor

you have no idea who I am or anything else about me......you make up BS about me to try and deflect from the reality of your crappy, apathy filled, commuter school filled with students that wish they were somewhere else and run by administrators that have more interest in the dallas ghetto than the Denton campus

the only digging you have done is in your ass and you have never seen my transcripts and it is creepy that you try and toss such BS out there to try and make you and your university not look like a joke....even creepier is that someone that claims to have access to college transcripts would put their job in jeopardy by claiming to have accessed a students records for personal reasons not related to academics and then posting about it on the WWW......if I even thought that was reality your job would be over and you would be in great legal jeopardy and your career in academia would be done for.......it would be as simple as having a lawyer contact North Texas state-Denton and asking them to see who was the last to access those records since there would not have been anyone having a reason to access them for years.....but I know you have not done that because I know you are full of **** just like all GMGers so I just laugh at you and your stupid attempts to deflect from proven REALITY with made up BS

you are a true idiot and a reflection of a true idiot university

nice try wealthy banker.

http://www.ntdaily.com/?p=64495

stop deferring and posting opinions masquerading as facts, my "unT" dropout.

clearly you got called out for being a twat.

it's quite easy to track someone down, especially when I was a member of the NTDaily and you willing gave us your information, and thus we tracked you down

attended UNT as a music major, dropped out, submitted a transcript request at TCC, UTSA, then Texas State...

strange coincidence that GL2greatness, TodgeRodge and WealthyBanker all share the same poorly worded paragraphs (like this one) with the same poorly thought out evidence and statistics? nah, too much of a coincidence.

next time don't threaten professors and students and we won't have to go to such extremes to expose a troll

(06-10-2012 11:44 PM)meangreener Wrote:  [quote='TodgeRodge' pid='7978196' dateline='1339389556']
[quote='meangreener' pid='7978166' dateline='1339387673']

nice try wealthy banker.

http://www.ntdaily.com/?p=64495

stop deferring and posting opinions masquerading as facts, my "unT" dropout.

clearly you got called out for being a twat.

it's quite easy to track someone down, especially when I was a member of the NTDaily and you willing gave us your information, and thus we tracked you down

attended UNT as a music major, dropped out, submitted a transcript request at TCC, UTSA, then Texas State...

strange coincidence that GL2greatness, TodgeRodge and WealthyBanker all share the same poorly worded paragraphs (like this one) with the same poorly thought out evidence and statistics? nah, too much of a coincidence.

next time don't threaten professors and students and we won't have to go to such extremes to expose a troll

you are cleary an idiot and not very good at the "internets"

how would someone making a post with a screen name on the NTDaily website "give you their information"

IP addresses are not like a home address or a phone number.......they are not trackable to an individual, they are handed out randomly by the DHCP Server (unless someone pays extra to have a static IP) of the ISP the person is using and they are renewed on a "lease" every so often.......that is why forums can't effectively ban people by using an IP address because in a few days or weeks (or as soon as the subscriber takes their network gateway off line for a few hours to a day) that IP address will be handed out to a different customer of that ISP and the person they were trying to ban based on an IP address would have a different IP address and would be right back viewing the forum

and ISPs do not keep records of who was using a particular IP at a particular point in time for very long and even if they did have those records they do not hand that information out to anyone without a warrant and a probable court case to go along with it

and I can barely play the radio much less an instrument so there was no chance I was ever a music major at North Texas State-Denton

and I never went to Tarrant County College because I have never lived in Tarrant County and I have been to UTSA several times, but never as a student and I have been to TxState more times than that, but never as a student

here is the real deal you moron......you have already been caught BSing about how many of the criteria that North Texas State-Denton qualified for in the last NRUF report so you are a proven liar in this thread, the other information that I posted is factual and clearly supported on the WWW from many reputable sources......no one in this thread cares anything about me personally because if they did they would be asking and now you have been proven so desperate to discredit someone that presented facts and backed them up with easy to find sources that you have gone and spewed more BS about me personally thinking that anyone in this thread cares......much less that anyone with a brain would know again you are proving yourself a fool by claiming that you somehow figured out who I am because of a post made in a comment section on a student news paper and from that you were able to find out who I am personally and then access my transcripts.....much less that if you did have a position to have access to transcripts that you would be such an idiot as to state you had used that position to access those transcripts to try and discredit someone that posted factual information in the WWW about a university

and that professor sounds like a real idiot just like you......what a great idea to mess with gas wells because you are against fracking even though the fracking is over after the well is producing

you are a dolt and a joke thanks for the laughs

(06-08-2012 03:27 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 03:11 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 04:11 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 03:31 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  I'm a UH alum and I also feel like it was a stupid move. I didn't like it from the start. I think it's a decision that UH, SMU, Memphis and UCF will regret. They knew schools were looking for a way out of the BE when all this happened. Hindsight is 20/20, but it seems to me that they really weren't thinking about the shifting that could occur over the next year, maybe even over the next couple of months. Who knows, but it's very possible the Big East collapses to the ACC. Boise State and SDSU could easily return to the MWC if they had to. I don't know what's going to happen, but if the BE loses two more of it's top schools (Louisiville, Cincinatti, Rutgers or UConn), it's over. It's all fools gold.

One more thing. Over the past several years I've enjoyed driving to Tulsa, New Orleans and Hattiesburg for road games. I can't do that anymore. They obviously weren't thinking about the fans either when they made this decision. I can't afford to fly all over America to see my favorite team play. We could be in CUSA right now with 7 or 8 other regional rivals that are all within driving distance. I hope this all works out for the best, but I'm not holding my breath and neither should any other UH fan.

Just remember back to when the decision to leave was made. Plenty of schools were looking to bail out of CUSA at the time (ECU had actually sent in an application for membership in the Big East that has not been recinded to this day that I know of). At least one of the regional games that Houston has (SMU) was going away as SMU was going to the Big East. At that time, UTSA, UNT, and LaTech were not part of the conference. At that time, CUSA was about to merge to form a nationwide conference with Mountain West teams...we were about to be less regional. More travel was going to be required either way we went. The TV contract was uncertain with either conference.

Just saying, when you put it in context, much of what you like about CUSA appeared to be going away. In the end, the opposite happened---CUSA actually got more regional, but that very well may not have occurred had we stayed.

Bottom line---The school had a chance to move to a conference that will pay more (which is needed at Houston) and will likely offer more opportunity and exposure. If we hadnt done it, one of our conference mates (perhaps ECU or your Tulsa road trip) would have simply taken our place. Of course, the move is not without risk----but nothing worthwhile ever is.

I remember conference presidents and athletic directors in the MWC and CUSA making it clear that their desire was to have an alliance/merger that created a national profile, while at the same time one that preserves and promotes geographic rivalries. The original plan was to have divisions that consisted of 6 or 7 schools from each region of the country. We all knew that.
Also, I don't believe the Big East would have even considered Tulsa due to their small fan base and market.

There's no loyalty anymore in college football. Everyone is chasing the dollar without thinking about the consequences to student-athletes and fans. If no one in CUSA or the MWC had even entertained a BE offer, we would all be together in one national conference making television money that the BE thinks/hopes it can make, while also being within divisions that make geographic sense. The BE would have folded.

I really hope all of this doesn't blow up in our face and make us look stupid. If the ACC is raided by the SEC and Big12, it's over and we'll be crawling back to CUSA, embarassed and with our tails between our legs.

I think we will be fine. I think it will end up being a pretty interesting conference. If a complete meltdown of the Big East occurrs, we will either create a new conference using the remaining leftovers as a core or we (SMU and Houston) might move to the Mountain West with Boise and SDSU. I dont see a return to CUSA for Houston or SMU as likley (multiple teams in the same markets really doesnt make alot of sense).

For what its worth, I think the changes in the conference may be a great thing for Rice. With UNT, UTEP, UTSA, and LaTech all being close driveable games---Rice may see increased attendance and a better game day experience than its had since the days of the SWC. Its too bad CUSA didnt add Texas St---there would have been an almost mini-Southwest Conference feel to the western division with 5 Texas teams and two next door neighbor schools in Latech and Tulsa. I think thier future addition would be an excellent idea.

Agree completely on both points. If the BE were to lose so much that it didn't make any sense for us and SMU to stay, I think CUSA and the MWC would agree that the two schools could rejoin the Alliance under the condition that they go to the MWC. The MWC badly needs representatives in Texas and CUSA would already have three. It also would be good for UH and Rice to not have the same teams coming in to play, week after week. The variety would be good for the average sports fan in Houston. Attendance at both schools would benefit.

At Rice, this may be the best situation they have been in since the SWC. The geographic friendliness of CUSA West should allow more fans to be able to travel to road games, therefore increasing attendance and interest.

This is one of the worst threads in a long time.