(06-01-2012 11:06 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  It's step one in cleansing America of the fatties.

All things equal, I hire fit people over obese. If you obviously can't maintain a basic healthy lifestyle, I'm less likely to trust you to handle anything that I need done.

Step one of cleansing America of the fatties is explaining to them the FDA and USDA have fed them a load of bull**** about fat being the enemy in their diet, and that they should keep consuming 200 ... 300 ... 400+ grams of highly processed grain base carbohydrates every day.

While I personally think pop should never be part of someone's diet, who am I to tell someone what to drink? I have a beer or two on occasion and there are people that think that is dangerous. I would just continue to raise insurance rates on fat people till they get their act together. I lost quite a bit of weight in the past year, it isn't impossible.

(06-01-2012 10:38 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 09:00 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 08:57 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 08:52 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  I'm OK with taxing vices, not OK with banning them.

It's a sad day when soda is a 'vice'.

Next up Chicken wings, pizza, .....

Nope, there is a massive difference between sodas which have absolutely no nutritional value and pizza/wings. I know you want to use the slippery slope argument, but that doesn't fly.

And soda is a vice when you consider its effects on the obesity rate and the costs deferred onto our healthcare system because of it, *FAR* more than marijuana at the very least. Tax it to cover the costs of it, but I still don't agree with the banning of drink sizes except for kids meals, or meals specifically advertised towards children under the age of 12 or so. If you want to drink that much, feel free, but you'll pay into the system for it.

Funny when they went after joe camel and people said next up.... Slippery slope.. And yet here we are... He'll blooie already tried salt.. F ing salt! Salt, btw has nutritional value..

Let's take a look at the 800 pound gorilla in the room, literally. From the Office of Minority Health. There are more good stats on that site.

But I guess it's racist to point out the health problems of a particular ragce/gender so we'll just wrap everyone up in a nice, neat bundle for PC sake.

Quote:African American women have the highest rates of being overweight or obese compared to other groups in the U.S. About four out of five
African American women are overweight or obese.

In 2010, African Americans were 1.4 times as likely to be obese as Non- Hispanic Whites.

In 2010, African American women were 70% more likely to be obese than Non-Hispanic White women.

In 2007-2010, African American girls were 80% more likely to be overweight than Non-Hispanic White girls.

http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/...px?ID=6456

(06-01-2012 03:10 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Let's take a look at the 800 pound gorilla in the room, literally. From the Office of Minority Health. There are more good stats on that site.

But I guess it's racist to point out the health problems of a particular ragce/gender so we'll just wrap everyone up in a nice, neat bundle for PC sake.

Quote:African American women have the highest rates of being overweight or obese compared to other groups in the U.S. About four out of five
African American women are overweight or obese.

In 2010, African Americans were 1.4 times as likely to be obese as Non- Hispanic Whites.

In 2010, African American women were 70% more likely to be obese than Non-Hispanic White women.

In 2007-2010, African American girls were 80% more likely to be overweight than Non-Hispanic White girls.

http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/...px?ID=6456

Your post lost credibility with the gorilla joke.

(06-01-2012 02:50 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 10:38 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 09:00 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 08:57 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 08:52 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  I'm OK with taxing vices, not OK with banning them.

It's a sad day when soda is a 'vice'.

Next up Chicken wings, pizza, .....

Nope, there is a massive difference between sodas which have absolutely no nutritional value and pizza/wings. I know you want to use the slippery slope argument, but that doesn't fly.

And soda is a vice when you consider its effects on the obesity rate and the costs deferred onto our healthcare system because of it, *FAR* more than marijuana at the very least. Tax it to cover the costs of it, but I still don't agree with the banning of drink sizes except for kids meals, or meals specifically advertised towards children under the age of 12 or so. If you want to drink that much, feel free, but you'll pay into the system for it.

Funny when they went after joe camel and people said next up.... Slippery slope.. And yet here we are... He'll blooie already tried salt.. F ing salt! Salt, btw has nutritional value..

lol I'm well aware of the basic requirements the human body has for sodium chloride in a persons diet, along with their need for iodine which usually accompanies table salt. I'd like to see a link about the salt issue though, I'm guessing it was in regards to certain food items which have well over 100% of ones daily sodium intake in a single serving. At that level, sodium is actually borderline dangerous to the wrong people.

However, I don't at all see how cigarettes fit in here.

(06-01-2012 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The odd thing for me, is why a city is taking this on? Do they (New York City) really have that much of a fiscal burden due to health issues of city residents and visitors?

Seems like it needs to be a state issue to have any real impact.

And Bloombergs' admission to just now buy two smaller drinks is laughable at best.

Good point. Imagine soda kiosks set up just on the other side of the Hudson... Lol

Actually the more I think about it, the funnier it gets

Brooke's is on a roll. Humor AND ideas. I'm "all-in"

Wasn't dr pepper invented by an actual doctor?

Lots of awful things were invented by doctors.

Soda or pizza isn't the problem it is the lack of exercise and vast over eating. Back in the day 1700's-1800's folks living on the farm
consumed double the calories that the average man does today, but they worked hard. Life wasn't automated. They also consumed
much more beer/cider than water.

(06-01-2012 11:06 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 11:03 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  How does the city stand to benefit?

It's step one in cleansing America of the fatties.

All things equal, I hire fit people over obese. If you obviously can't maintain a basic healthy lifestyle, I'm less likely to trust you to handle anything that I need done.

Ahhh... The tolerance of the left.
If someone had put white people over black people he would explode!!! But, because the hypocrite is is prejudiced against overweight people, it is OK.
Prick.
I will work you under the table any day.

Case in point why I hate liberals, 99% are just a bunch of hypocrites, and elitist snobs.

(06-01-2012 01:41 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 11:06 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  It's step one in cleansing America of the fatties.

All things equal, I hire fit people over obese. If you obviously can't maintain a basic healthy lifestyle, I'm less likely to trust you to handle anything that I need done.

Step one of cleansing America of the fatties is explaining to them the FDA and USDA have fed them a load of bull**** about fat being the enemy in their diet, and that they should keep consuming 200 ... 300 ... 400+ grams of highly processed grain base carbohydrates every day.

^^^THIS^^^

(06-01-2012 03:36 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  lol I'm well aware of the basic requirements the human body has for sodium chloride in a persons diet, along with their need for iodine which usually accompanies table salt

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Why is it that anytime someone states a common fact, one that any 12th grader should know, you get both defensive and arrogant at the same time...

I was being sardonic when I pointed out salt is a requirement, not trying to enlighten you as to what my 5yo knows..

Quote:I'd like to see a link about the salt issue though, I'm guessing it was in regards to certain food items which have well over 100% of ones daily sodium intake in a single serving.

Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=n...v_NovKZYoU

Quote:Sodium content is so high in ordinary foods that a deli sandwich alone may contain the total daily recommended amount for older adults, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene said today in a statement. Under the proposed reduction, a quarter-pound cheeseburger would have about a fourth of the daily recommended salt. The burger contains more than a third of the allotment now.

So a Burger would go form 33% of your salt intake to 25% of your salt intake.. Is that worth it?

Now notice I posted the Bloomberg article which will treat the NY mayor very favorably.. Hell Bloomie even wants to ban food wit too much salt being donated to homeless shelters!

Of course this is reasonable right... No way a slippery slope exist... Damn

"No owner or operator of a restaurant in this state shall use salt in any form in the preparation of any food for consumption by customers of such restaurant, including food prepared to be consumed on the premises of such restaurant or off of such premises," the bill, A. 10129 , states in part.

The legislation, which Assemblyman Felix Ortiz , D-Brooklyn, introduced on March 5, would fine restaurants $1,000 for each violation.

Quote:"The consumer needs to make their own health choices. Just as doctors and the occasional visit to a hospital can't truly control how a person chooses to maintain their health, neither can chefs nor the occasional visit to a restaurant," said Jeff Nathan, the executive chef and co-owner of Abigael's on Broadway. "Modifying trans fats and sodium intake needs to be home based for optimal health. Regulating restaurants will not solve this health issue."

"No owner or operator of a restaurant in this state shall use salt in any form in the preparation of any food for consumption by customers of such restaurant, including food prepared to be consumed on the premises of such restaurant or off of such premises," -- The legislation, which Assemblyman Felix Ortiz , D-Brooklyn, introduced on March 5, would fine restaurants $1,000 for each violation.

Sometimes you ar eon a slope and sometimes that slope is slippery...

Quote:At that level, sodium is actually borderline dangerous to the wrong people.

The same can be said for *ANYTHING* Hell drinking too much water can kill you.. So how is it unreasonable to see them going after fatty foods next...

What % of your daily allotment of fat does a cheese steak have? does anyone really need that much fat? is it food for you..

Quote:However, I don't at all see how cigarettes fit in here.

That was the camels nose in the tent (pun intended). Once we let the govt demonize a legal product like that, sin tax it, outlaw its advertising then any crisis will be enouhg of a reason to do it to something else..

(06-02-2012 05:31 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Soda or pizza isn't the problem it is the lack of exercise and vast over eating. Back in the day 1700's-1800's folks living on the farm
consumed double the calories that the average man does today, but they worked hard. Life wasn't automated. They also consumed
much more beer/cider than water.

Don't worry were just getting warmed up comrade!

(06-02-2012 09:05 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 11:06 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-01-2012 11:03 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  How does the city stand to benefit?

It's step one in cleansing America of the fatties.

All things equal, I hire fit people over obese. If you obviously can't maintain a basic healthy lifestyle, I'm less likely to trust you to handle anything that I need done.

Ahhh... The tolerance of the left.
If someone had put white people over black people he would explode!!! But, because the hypocrite is is prejudiced against overweight people, it is OK.
Prick.
I will work you under the table any day.

Case in point why I hate liberals, 99% are just a bunch of hypocrites, and elitist snobs.

Hey, don't be mad at me just because you're fat, I just treat people like they treat themselves. I get it though, I'd be pissed too if I couldn't see my own genitals.

Ahhhhhhhhhh...... more tolerance from the left. Liberal ******.

(06-01-2012 10:46 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  Put a little vitamin B12 in Dr. Pepper and start calling it a nutritional supplement. Problem solved!

And you could use it to kill a bad LSD trip!