Looking at Wiki, I'm shocked so many states have an age of consent of 16. That's messed up.

(05-31-2012 11:20 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Looking at Wiki, I'm shocked so many states have an age of consent of 16. That's messed up.

We welcome your authoritarian control on all our lives, oh wise one. [/sarcasm]

(05-31-2012 11:20 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Looking at Wiki, I'm shocked so many states have an age of consent of 16. That's messed up.

How is that messed up? If two 15 year olds wanna bang why should that be against the law and turn them both into rapists. I'm not saying they should be sexually active, but there is no need to turn any teenager into a rapist due to some awful age of consent law.

I have no problem with it being 16 just as long as it's a free decision. If kids are having kids and are able to drop out of school at that age they should be able to get married I guess.

(05-31-2012 11:53 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I have no problem with it being 16 just as long as it's a free decision. If kids are having kids and are able to drop out of school at that age they should be able to get married I guess.

But max hates that word above.

I should clarify. I meant it's messed up that an adult can bang 16 year olds, not that 16 year olds can bang each other. The latter isn't great but at least there's no power imbalance.

I believe in having an age of consent for sex and contracts because a young person's mental faculties aren't fully developed to appreciate the weight of such potentially life changing decisions, and so they aren't really capable of giving fully informed "consent". There comes a point when they become an adult and capable of making weighty decisions, and 18 seems fair to me. 16 though seems too young.

(05-31-2012 12:01 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I should clarify. I meant it's messed up that an adult can bang 16 year olds, not that 16 year olds can bang each other. The latter isn't great but at least there's no power imbalance.

I believe in having an age of consent for sex and contracts because a young person's mental faculties aren't fully developed to appreciate the weight of such potentially life changing decisions, and so they aren't really capable of giving fully informed "consent". There comes a point when they become an adult, and 18 seems fair to me. 16 though seems too young.

I don't think that it's ideal either but 18 is just an arbitrary number. But the 16 year old requirement is usually coupled with the fact that the older person can't be more that two years older. I wouldn't agree with a 21 year old and a 16 year old. That's just gross.

(05-31-2012 12:01 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I should clarify. I meant it's messed up that an adult can bang 16 year olds, not that 16 year olds can bang each other. The latter isn't great but at least there's no power imbalance.

I believe in having an age of consent for sex and contracts because a young person's mental faculties aren't fully developed to appreciate the weight of such potentially life changing decisions, and so they aren't really capable of giving fully informed "consent". There comes a point when they become an adult and capable of making weighty decisions, and 18 seems fair to me. 16 though seems too young.

Frankly there is little difference between a 21 year old banging a 16 yo and a 30 yo banging a 21 yo

Quote:Frankly there is little difference between a 21 year old banging a 16 yo and a 30 yo banging a 21 yo

I really disagree with this (even though my personal experience tells me 21 y/os are completely insane). From what I gather, a 21 year old's brain is much closer to full maturation than at 16, when the frontal lobe is still developing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe

Quote:In humans, the frontal lobe reaches full maturity around only after the 20s,[1] marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood.

(05-31-2012 01:20 PM)Max Power Wrote:  

Quote:Frankly there is little difference between a 21 year old banging a 16 yo and a 30 yo banging a 21 yo

I really disagree with this (even though my personal experience tells me 21 y/os are completely insane). From what I gather, a 21 year old's brain is much closer to full maturation than at 16, when the frontal lobe is still developing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe

Quote:In humans, the frontal lobe reaches full maturity around only after the 20s,[1] marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood.

Of course you would... That's exactly why I posted it...

But most agree the brain is not 'fully mature' until the very late 20's or the early 30's so I would again bet that the difference between a 21yo's brain and a 30 yo's brain is on par with the difference between a 21/16...

(05-31-2012 10:12 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  You think that child-rape is in muslim values and teachings?

nice attempt at deflection there

bringing Muslims into this doesn't make the OP any less valid

Thinking like an adult comes with being raised to be an adult. In the past (and present in some countries) boys and girls were raised to actually grow up and they did. The ages of adulthood have always been arbitrary. Even here it was as young as 10 when fathers sent their sons to apprentice with someone and provide income for the family. The depression was famous for parents sending their sons to work out of grade 6 to work. The Jewish and Muslim cultures still consider it to be 13. India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and some Nigerian kingdoms believe that children are eligible to work like adults when they learn to walk and talk all depending on caste. Those kids are actually well prepared to live like adults from an early age.

I know that our situation over the last 70 years has allowed us to be able to say that we need to extend childhood out into 18 and beyond, but that is just a decision made by a culture because our conditions allowed us to be soft. If we raised our kids to be fully responsible at 16, they could very well be.

(05-31-2012 01:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Thinking like an adult comes with being raised to be an adult. In the past (and present in some countries) boys and girls were raised to actually grow up and they did. The ages of adulthood have always been arbitrary. Even here it was as young as 10 when fathers sent their sons to apprentice with someone and provide income for the family. The depression was famous for parents sending their sons to work out of grade 6 to work. The Jewish and Muslim cultures still consider it to be 13. India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and some Nigerian kingdoms believe that children are eligible to work like adults when they learn to walk and talk all depending on caste. Those kids are actually well prepared to live like adults from an early age.

I know that our situation over the last 70 years has allowed us to be able to say that we need to extend childhood out into 18 and beyond, but that is just a decision made by a culture because our conditions allowed us to be soft. If we raised our kids to be fully responsible at 16, they could very well be.

+2

Exactly

(05-31-2012 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:58 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah...Max...you're totally wrong. Those things never happended nor were they condonded by anyone!

And simply pointing out the hypocrisy clearly shows your apathy toward the abused.

If you must continue to follow me and post on my threads, then use some intelligence. Your constant ineptitude and ignorance are an embarrassment, but even they pale in the humiliation you bring yourself when you feign the intelligence you so sorely lack.

So this is your thread...ohhhh that's right...everything here is your thread! I forgot about your diagnosis. Clearly the help is not working. May I suggest a different counselor?

What a poor pathetic little man you are.

BTW - Still waiting for your explanation of your expertise of military weaponry.

And you ripped me for meaningless posts.