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Ah, freedoms from Arab Spring
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3083/e...bute-leave

Quote:"They need to know that conquest is coming, that Egypt will be Islamic, and that they must pay jizya or emigrate," Morsi reportedly said.

I expect this will happen in Detroit in the not distant future.
05-31-2012 09:09 AM
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The thought of having someone convert against their will is about insane as anything I've ever heard. Christians be might forced to act like Muslims outwardly, but how do you control their thoughts? This is going to happen country by country and then it will start happening here. Thanks Obama
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(05-31-2012 02:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The thought of having someone convert against their will is about insane as anything I've ever heard. Christians be might forced to act like Muslims outwardly, but how do you control their thoughts? This is going to happen country by country and then it will start happening here. Thanks Obama

Wait, either the left hates religion or it doesn't. You can't have both.
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(05-31-2012 03:22 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 02:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The thought of having someone convert against their will is about insane as anything I've ever heard. Christians be might forced to act like Muslims outwardly, but how do you control their thoughts? This is going to happen country by country and then it will start happening here. Thanks Obama

Wait, either the left hates religion or it doesn't. You can't have both.

No...the left hates Christians. They embrace Islam.
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(05-31-2012 03:22 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 02:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The thought of having someone convert against their will is about insane as anything I've ever heard. Christians be might forced to act like Muslims outwardly, but how do you control their thoughts? This is going to happen country by country and then it will start happening here. Thanks Obama

Wait, either the left hates religion or it doesn't. You can't have both.

The left uses religion for control. It hates the Judeo-Christian God and freedom. It's happy w/ religion, which is why it creates so many of them.
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(05-31-2012 04:35 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 03:22 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 02:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The thought of having someone convert against their will is about insane as anything I've ever heard. Christians be might forced to act like Muslims outwardly, but how do you control their thoughts? This is going to happen country by country and then it will start happening here. Thanks Obama

Wait, either the left hates religion or it doesn't. You can't have both.

The left uses religion for control. It hates the Judeo-Christian God and freedom. It's happy w/ religion, which is why it creates so many of them.

Well that's a new one.
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(05-31-2012 05:06 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 04:35 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 03:22 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 02:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The thought of having someone convert against their will is about insane as anything I've ever heard. Christians be might forced to act like Muslims outwardly, but how do you control their thoughts? This is going to happen country by country and then it will start happening here. Thanks Obama

Wait, either the left hates religion or it doesn't. You can't have both.

The left uses religion for control. It hates the Judeo-Christian God and freedom. It's happy w/ religion, which is why it creates so many of them.

Well that's a new one.

Not really.
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RE: Ah, freedoms from Arab Spring
I believe it is more of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of thinking on the left.

They embrace, or perhaps a better word is tolerate Islam (and defend it) because they both like the total control of people and both are anti-Christian. Totalitarians love others with values and policies like themselves.
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(05-31-2012 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 05:06 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 04:35 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 03:22 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 02:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The thought of having someone convert against their will is about insane as anything I've ever heard. Christians be might forced to act like Muslims outwardly, but how do you control their thoughts? This is going to happen country by country and then it will start happening here. Thanks Obama

Wait, either the left hates religion or it doesn't. You can't have both.

The left uses religion for control. It hates the Judeo-Christian God and freedom. It's happy w/ religion, which is why it creates so many of them.

Well that's a new one.

Not really.

Hush your mouth. UCF has a higher IQ than we!
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(05-31-2012 06:19 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Hush your mouth. UCF has a higher IQ than we!

I'll reserve judgement on that until I see it demonstrated here. Have seen no evidence yet.

As for the left and religion, why do you think that Marxists and Communists feel the need to destroy religion? Because they wish to install their OWN religion, worship of the state. Those deities just get in the way, along with their belief systems.

The worldwide assault on Christians by Islam has been accelerating the past few years but few here know about it. One in this country who only watches TV news (over the air or cable channels) or reads the few remaining newspapers would have virtually no idea that it is happening and especially on the scale that it is. There are a few websites that catalog all the incidents worldwide and they are numerous, from Iraq, to Nigeria.

I'm talking about the burning down of churches, often with people inside, to outright massacres of Christians like happened this past week in a village in Nigeria. The driving out of all the Christians is the goal. The methods used don't matter to the fanatics. While the world is rightly obsessed with the slaughter going on in Syria, our media is silent on the destruction and sometimes outright slaughter of many historic Christian communities in the middle east and around the world.

Our media does not want to talk about it at all because it hits too close to home as far as the attitudes on the left go. Also, it would be an eye opener to those paying attention to things like HHS mandating that religious organizations and schools must pay for things that go against their religious beliefs. While it is an assault on religious freedom, the left claims it is a 'war on women.' Only silly, immature young single women believe that line of B.S. More telling are the actions of our government in attacks on religion, once again using regulatory agencies (HHS) and "rule making." Why was there scant mention in the U.S. News media of the 43 lawsuits filed against the government last week by Catholic and religious organizations? You know the answer. BO's team has over-reached again and likely the court will strike that one down, too.

Commies also believe that the family unit must be destroyed, as well. They continually seek to trample parents' rights and assert that the state has parental rights. They attempt to undermine parents and keep them in the dark about what left wing "social justice" crap is being fed to their kids. Educating children through propaganda will be much easier and less messy with no parents to butt in and object.
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I'm sure Max is thrilled with this development. Though in truth I'm sure he's hoping they don't convert so he can cheer their being attacked.
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Funny, I've never once heard a mention of any of this from any liberal I know.
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(05-31-2012 08:03 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Funny, I've never once heard a mention of any of this from any liberal I know.

That's because we don't associate with insane nutjobs like DrT or SMN.. they live their lives afraid of everything that isn't them. It's pretty pathetic.
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(05-31-2012 08:03 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Funny, I've never once heard a mention of any of this from any liberal I know.

Interesting. You seem to frequently relay your personal experiences as overarching evidence for your point of view. You've met a few home school kids who, in your opinion, were maladjusted socially so that in turn must be true of the majority. Their parents just can't bare the idea of them off the tit, so that must be true of the majority of them. The rights of Christians in Muslim dominated countries doesn't come up as a topic of conversation with you and your liberal friends, so it must not be an issue? But I know you understand that it is an issue because in other posts you have mentioned the dangers faced by Coptic Christians in Egypt. Which is why I find your above statement puzzling.

Are you of the opinion that your sphere of interactions, limited by any measure when considered in the context of the number of people in the world, are somehow an accurate representation of the world at large?
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(06-01-2012 06:55 AM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 08:03 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Funny, I've never once heard a mention of any of this from any liberal I know.

That's because we don't associate with insane nutjobs like DrT or SMN.. they live their lives afraid of everything that isn't them. It's pretty pathetic.

So you would travel to a Middle Eastern and proudly display your (pick one):

Christianity
Homosexuality
Tolerance for women's rights
Freedom of speech
Sexual freedom

Would you be afraid of doing any of that? Or are would you defend their right to be intolerant?
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(06-01-2012 10:01 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(06-01-2012 06:55 AM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 08:03 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Funny, I've never once heard a mention of any of this from any liberal I know.

That's because we don't associate with insane nutjobs like DrT or SMN.. they live their lives afraid of everything that isn't them. It's pretty pathetic.

So you would travel to a Middle Eastern and proudly display your (pick one):

Christianity
Homosexuality
Tolerance for women's rights
Freedom of speech
Sexual freedom

Would you be afraid of doing any of that? Or are would you defend their right to be intolerant?

husky84 isn't the guy to ask that. He thinks Middle East is Indiana.
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(06-01-2012 07:05 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 08:03 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Funny, I've never once heard a mention of any of this from any liberal I know.

Interesting. You seem to frequently relay your personal experiences as overarching evidence for your point of view. You've met a few home school kids who, in your opinion, were maladjusted socially so that in turn must be true of the majority. Their parents just can't bare the idea of them off the tit, so that must be true of the majority of them. The rights of Christians in Muslim dominated countries doesn't come up as a topic of conversation with you and your liberal friends, so it must not be an issue? But I know you understand that it is an issue because in other posts you have mentioned the dangers faced by Coptic Christians in Egypt. Which is why I find your above statement puzzling.

Are you of the opinion that your sphere of interactions, limited by any measure when considered in the context of the number of people in the world, are somehow an accurate representation of the world at large?

I am well aware that anecdotal evidence isn't a substitution for quantitative analysis, but when people claim that 'liberals' feel a certain way, and I have yet to run into a single one who's said anything near that, I tend to question their accuracy. I'm sure there are liberals out there who feel the way you claim, just like there are conservatives out there who want Obama out of office for no other reason than the fact they 'hate n*ggers' (actually run into this one before, reeeeeal classy). However, unlike the posters on this board I don't attribute that view to 'conservatives', I contribute that view to 'crazy f*cking racists whose views just happen to coincide with other, rational human beings viewpoints on a few issues'.

That's the difference.

And I've yet to ever discuss the world opinion at large, in any legitimate depth, so I'm not sure where that's coming from. The original statement was aimed towards 'the left'.
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