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Article on Davidson's options in conference expansion
This is an article that lays out Davidson's options when looking at moving to the CAA - continue to be the big fish in a little pond or try to elevate their profile by moving to a bigger league. I think Davidson should stay put.

I also thought these quotes were interesting and applicable to much of the back and forth on this board -

"Here's why it's so tough, from a basketball standpoint: Davidson is the "name" program of the SoCon, but the SoCon has never sent an at-large team to the NCAA tournament. Not even in 1995-96, when the Wildcats went 14-0 in conference and 25-5 overall. Not even in 2008-09, Curry's final college season, when they went 18-2 in league play and 27-8 overall, and the general public was clamoring to see Steph back in the bracket. If you don't win the SoCon tournament, you're not getting in the NCAAs -- and even when you do, your seed ceiling seems to be at 13*.

(*Yes, the '07-08 Curry team earned a No. 10, but as McKillop said, having a Lottery Pick on the roster was a "once-in-a-lifetime" scenario. The great, non-Curry squads topped out at 13.)"

"You have to ask yourself, how do you get that at-large bid?" McKillop said. "Do you depend on a conference to be the platform for it, or do you roll up your sleeves like Gonzaga did and create the kind of schedule that gives you the opportunity for not just an [at-large] bid, but for a high seed as well? Gonzaga, to me, is a tremendous story about a team elevating the status of a conference."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/wr...ndex.html?
05-30-2012 03:55 PM
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RE: Article on Davidson's options in conference expansion
Good for them all. Bottom line, the Stanton-Millins model promised that ETSU would be at least at the Davidson and/or Charleston level in basketball by now. If the promise had of been kept, the CAA would be talking to ETSU as a replacement for VCU at this juncture. That model has been a grand failure and we're now reaping the consequences. All Buc fans should be furious over this and be demanding the firing of Dave Mullins. How long will Noland let this crap continue???
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RE: Article on Davidson's options in conference expansion
(05-30-2012 03:55 PM)LetsgoBucs Wrote:  (*Yes, the '07-08 Curry team earned a No. 10, but as McKillop said, having a Lottery Pick on the roster was a "once-in-a-lifetime" scenario. The great, non-Curry squads topped out at 13.)"

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ETSU got a 10 seed without a lottery pick, in fact no draft picks period.
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RE: Article on Davidson's options in conference expansion
(05-30-2012 03:55 PM)LetsgoBucs Wrote:  This is an article that lays out Davidson's options when looking at moving to the CAA - continue to be the big fish in a little pond or try to elevate their profile by moving to a bigger league. I think Davidson should stay put.

I also thought these quotes were interesting and applicable to much of the back and forth on this board -

"Here's why it's so tough, from a basketball standpoint: Davidson is the "name" program of the SoCon, but the SoCon has never sent an at-large team to the NCAA tournament. Not even in 1995-96, when the Wildcats went 14-0 in conference and 25-5 overall. Not even in 2008-09, Curry's final college season, when they went 18-2 in league play and 27-8 overall, and the general public was clamoring to see Steph back in the bracket. If you don't win the SoCon tournament, you're not getting in the NCAAs -- and even when you do, your seed ceiling seems to be at 13*.

(*Yes, the '07-08 Curry team earned a No. 10, but as McKillop said, having a Lottery Pick on the roster was a "once-in-a-lifetime" scenario. The great, non-Curry squads topped out at 13.)"

"You have to ask yourself, how do you get that at-large bid?" McKillop said. "Do you depend on a conference to be the platform for it, or do you roll up your sleeves like Gonzaga did and create the kind of schedule that gives you the opportunity for not just an [at-large] bid, but for a high seed as well? Gonzaga, to me, is a tremendous story about a team elevating the status of a conference."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/wr...ndex.html?

Yes Davidson should follow the lead of ETSU. They should promote their tennis coach to athletic director. Then spend most of their budget on only minor sports and never worry about winning at football, basketball or baseball again. Wonder why they are not doing that?
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RE: Article on Davidson's options in conference expansion
The interesting thing is that McKillop has been with Davidson since 1989. It seems like programs garner a lot of success/attention the longer a head coach sticks around. (Maybe everyone will love Murry in another 10 years!) I remembered this list from a couple of seasons ago. McKillop is #12 and Rick Byrd, interestingly enough, is #7.

Copied from Rivals.com:
Entering the 2010-11 season, 14 Division I basketball coaches have been at their programs for at least 20 seasons.

1. Jim Boeheim, Syracuse
First season: 1976-77

2. Dave Bike, Sacred Heart
First season: 1978-79

3. Mike Krzyzewski, Duke
First season: 1980-81

4. Don Maestri, Troy
First season: 1982-83

5. Greg Kampe, Oakland
First season: 1984-85

6. L. Vann Pettaway, Alabama A&M
First season: 1986-87

7. Rick Byrd, Belmont
First season: 1986-87

8. Jim Calhoun, Connecticut
First season: 1986-87

9. Fang Mitchell, Coppin State
First season: 1986-87

10. Bob Thomason, Pacific
First season: 1988-89

11. Homer Drew, Valparaiso
First season: 1988-89

12. Bob McKillop, Davidson
First season: 1989-90

13. Gary Williams, Maryland
First season: 1989-90

14. Dave Loos, Austin Peay
First season: 1990-91
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RE: Article on Davidson's options in conference expansion
(05-30-2012 07:19 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  
(05-30-2012 03:55 PM)LetsgoBucs Wrote:  This is an article that lays out Davidson's options when looking at moving to the CAA - continue to be the big fish in a little pond or try to elevate their profile by moving to a bigger league. I think Davidson should stay put.

I also thought these quotes were interesting and applicable to much of the back and forth on this board -

"Here's why it's so tough, from a basketball standpoint: Davidson is the "name" program of the SoCon, but the SoCon has never sent an at-large team to the NCAA tournament. Not even in 1995-96, when the Wildcats went 14-0 in conference and 25-5 overall. Not even in 2008-09, Curry's final college season, when they went 18-2 in league play and 27-8 overall, and the general public was clamoring to see Steph back in the bracket. If you don't win the SoCon tournament, you're not getting in the NCAAs -- and even when you do, your seed ceiling seems to be at 13*.

(*Yes, the '07-08 Curry team earned a No. 10, but as McKillop said, having a Lottery Pick on the roster was a "once-in-a-lifetime" scenario. The great, non-Curry squads topped out at 13.)"

"You have to ask yourself, how do you get that at-large bid?" McKillop said. "Do you depend on a conference to be the platform for it, or do you roll up your sleeves like Gonzaga did and create the kind of schedule that gives you the opportunity for not just an [at-large] bid, but for a high seed as well? Gonzaga, to me, is a tremendous story about a team elevating the status of a conference."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/wr...ndex.html?

Yes Davidson should follow the lead of ETSU. They should promote their tennis coach to athletic director. Then spend most of their budget on only minor sports and never worry about winning at football, basketball or baseball again. Wonder why they are not doing that?

Or, why is ETSU the only Division I state regional university in the nation to be doing this since 2003? Really makes us look stupid
05-31-2012 07:15 AM
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