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I did this on C-USAbbs because my Knights are still in the conference, but I figure I might try my hand at a Big East prediction because very soon, Syracuse and Pittsburgh will be gone. But...here we go, we start with OOC games, then overall:

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USF Bulls - 4-1 (wins: Chattanooga, @Nevada, @Ball State, Florida State --- losses: @Miami)

> The Bulls know better than any current Big East team what it is like to completely lose focus and tank after a strong start. Going undefeated OOC did not phase Pittsburgh, but you have to give the Bulls credit: they played most every game within a score. What we need to see from B.J. Daniel's offense is willpower late in the game. The pass rush must gain a killer instinct like we saw against Notre Dame.

> USF will clean up its schedule and come up short of winning the Big East. Final record: 8-4 (4-3) *BOWL*


Connecticut Huskies - 3-2 (wins: Massachusetts, @Maryland, Buffalo --- losses: NC State, @Western Michigan)

> UConn knows close games. Heck, the entire Big East knows how gritty competition gets. Since losing Randy Edsall, this Connecticut team has lost vision. They have skilled players without a skilled leader to steer them in a proper direction. I'm wondering if true freshman Casey Cochran can inspire confidence again...

> I don't think this is quite the year where the Huskies get back on track. They'll stick around for games, but disappoint. They take one from Pittsburgh, but nothing else. Final record: 4-8 (1-6)


Pittsburgh Panthers - 3-2 (wins: Youngstown State, Gardner-Webb, @Buffalo --- losses: Virginia Tech, @Notre Dame)

> Pittsburgh scheduled weak this year. This being their last year as a Big East football member, they are going to heap a ton of pressure on Ray Graham to perform and stay healthy the whole way. Looking at the inconsistencies in the passing game with Tino Sunseri, however, the outlook is not very good for their exit parade.

> The blue and gold will struggle all year long, and won't leave the Big East without first becoming 'black and blue' instead. Final record: 7-5 (4-3) *BOWL*


Syracuse Orangemen - 4-1 (wins: Northwestern, Stony Brook, @Minnesota, @Missouri --- losses: USC)

> The Orangemen have what some refer to as 'the perfect storm' forming around this particular squad. If we see Ryan Nassib improve to making fewer than 6 interceptions, the 'Cuse will leave the Big East with their heads held high. The offensive line has injury issues that I think will become remedied after we see the USC game played out.

> The Orange plays against the current late and ties USF, Pittsburgh, and Rutgers in the end. Final record: 8-4 (4-3) *BOWL*


Rutgers Scarlet Knights - 3-2 (wins: @Tulane, Howard, Army --- losses: @Arkansas, Kent State)

> Chas Dodd and Gary Nova are still contending for that starting job, and both appear identical. One problem I foresee with Rutgers is efficiency with passing, especially in the turnover department. If neither of these two prospective QBs can get control over their precision, I don't see a good season like the Rutgers faithful foresee.

> Rutgers will win against teams they should, but will not shine bright enough to pull out the title. Final record: 7-5 (4-3) *BOWL*


Temple Owls - 1-3 (wins: Villanova --- losses: Maryland, @Penn State, @Army)

> Bernard Pierce, Temple's leading rusher from last season, led Temple to its first bowl victory and first bowl game in 32 years. Pierce is now with the Baltmore Ravens, and without him, the Temple offense is back to square zero.

> Without a consistent QB under center, I have one thing to say to Temple: welcome to the Big East! Final record: 2-9 (1-6)


Louisville Cardinals - 3-2 (wins: Kentucky, Missouri State, North Carolina --- losses: @FIU, @Southern Miss)

> Louisville brings in a ton of senior talent in the secondary, and with most of their OOC opponents relying heavily on the pass (Kentucky, UNC, Southern Miss), I think Louisville will manage to put together a good season.

> Teddy Bridgewater stepped into a leadership role early, getting his shoes wet, and really made the most of his first season, and I think the progress continues with a 2nd straight bowl appearance. Final record: 6-6 (3-4) *BOWL*


Cincinnati Bearcats - 5-0 (wins: Delaware State, Virginia Tech, Miami (OH), Fordham, @Toledo)

> Remember this name: Brendon Kay. If he is 100% and ready to go all the way through the summer and can keep up with Munchie Legaux, he may just become a household name in the annals of UC football history. Start him. He is someone this entire squad can get behind.

> With Brendon Kay under center, and a team packed with junior talent that will carry over into next season, Cincinnati will once again stand atop the Big East, alone. Final record: 12-0 (7-0) *BOWL - SUGAR BOWL*

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Final Standings:
1. Cincinnati*** - (12-0) (7-0)
2. Pittsburgh* - (7-5) (4-3)
3. Rutgers* - (7-5) (4-3)
4. USF* - (8-4) (4-3)
5. Syracuse* (8-4) (4-3)
6. Louisville* (6-6) (3-4)
7. Temple (2-9) (1-6)
8. Connecticut (4-8) (1-6)

*** - Sugar Bowl v. SEC
* - bowl berths


ENJOY! 04-cheers
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Tampa Knight I appreciate the work you did and admire anyone who displays their predictions for public perusal.

With that said, there is no way Louisville loses to FIU next season or go 3-4 in the Big East.

Last season Louisville did have some obvious hiccups (Marshal and FIU), but they were an extremely young team and they improved dramatically as the season went on. We changed Offensive coordinators and QBs during the season and often times played with as many as seven freshman on the offensive side of the ball alone.

But my real confidence comes from what I saw at the spring practices and the Spring game recently. Our QB Teddy Bridgewater is playing phenomenal and our defensive line will have an explosive season this year.

Louisville could lose @SMiss and maybe against a Rut, Cincy, or USF but I really believe the Cards will be the dominate team in the Big East this season.
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dude, love what you are smokin
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(05-29-2012 02:05 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  dude, love what you are smokin

Save a hit for me too 03-cloud9 But, I'd rather be overly respected than disrespected anyday.
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I don't know what you are drinking, but can I have some? I love my Bearcats, but this is a little over the top for this comming season. Tks, Mr.P.3242
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Do not like saying it, but the UoL will win the BE in 2012.
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Let me redo Temple for you. You got Temple all wrong. Temple did go to a bowl game last season and win in a convincing manner. The Owls defense was terrific and held teams to very low scores. BP was indeed the featured player for Temple but not the only weapon on offense. The other RB Matt Brown also gained 1000 yards. Although smaller than Peirce, he is more durable and hard to tackle due to his small size. The team also showed two other backs in the scrimmage game who may just as good or better. Temple's running game will be intact for 2012. The MVP of the bowl game was the QB Chis Coyer who looks like he will only be getting better as his career progresses. There are alot of Tim Tebow comparisons with this kid. Temple gets a boost with the QB situation. Coyer likes to run and also is fairly accurate with passes. Temple also has two more running style QBs as backup. We will probably see them in certain situations.

From what I can tell, Temple should be on their way to a 4th straight winning season. This team will be as good as last years. It's hard to predict which BE teams will be the toughest foes for Temple. The Owls were only able to schedule four OCC games due to the conf switch. I see them going 4-1 OCC. The PSU game may be very competitive this year due to all of the turmoil up there.
I am going to be very conservative in my prediction and go with an overall record of 6-5. That's good enough for a bowl trip. But the talent is there for a 8-3 record.
Things are looking up for Temple with the completion of a $10 million practice facility upgrade in three months. Big East membership will help recruiting and generate fan interest. Already donations have hit a record high. Revenue is key to Temple's continued success. Coming off of a bowl victory the Temple fans are enjoying some really good vibes. Expectations are high. Fans expect another bowl trip....
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(05-29-2012 12:47 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  Temple Owls - 1-3 (wins: Villanova --- losses: Maryland, @Penn State, @Army)

> Bernard Pierce, Temple's leading rusher from last season, led Temple to its first bowl victory and first bowl game in 32 years. Pierce is now with the Baltmore Ravens, and without him, the Temple offense is back to square zero.

> Without a consistent QB under center, I have one thing to say to Temple: welcome to the Big East! Final record: 2-9 (1-6)

Wow, I dont know where to start.

First, if you're going to trash us, at least get the idiom correctly. It's 'back to square one'.

Second, although he's very small, Matt Brown is a damn good RB, and significantly tougher than Bernard.

It was not our first Bowl Game in 32 years, we lost to UCLA in the EagleBank Bowl (now the Military Bowl) in 2009.

As far as our OOC games, we absolutely massacred Maryland at their place last year. No doubt in my mind Matt Brown can run all over them like Bernard did. We beat Army 42-14 last year, and could've put up 70 if we wanted to show up a Military institution.

You clearly know nothing about us, because QB is probably the position with the least question marks. In fact, Chris Coyer was the most efficient QB in the entire country last year: Click me

There are several reasons we could struggle that you could've mentioned. You failed to mention any of them. Nice job!
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UConn may have the best defense in the conference and the OP has them at 1-6 in the Big East? WTF?

The only thing the Huskies need is a decent QB. If we just got mediocre QB play last year, we would have been 8-4 instead of 5-7. We have two good incoming QB's .... I expect us to be 7-5 this year, in the worst case scenario. We could be 9-3.
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(05-29-2012 05:37 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn may have the best defense in the conference and the OP has them at 1-6 in the Big East? WTF?

While I don't agree with much in the overall projections, I was curious about the bolded comment. How many starters return from the UConn D? I'm assuming most are returning and are expected to improve, just because UConn was 2nd to last in scoring D in league play last season, and only 2 points out from being last. There was a pretty big split down the middle in defense last season. Rutgers, UofL, Pitt, and Cincy all gave up 20-22 points a game in league play. Then USF, Cuse, UConn, and WVU all gave up 28-29 points a game. I wasn't sure what is the most likely cause to move UConn into that upper half, or best in the conference.
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I dont know too much about BE teams beyond the basics, but I thought UL was supposed to be the best D.
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(05-29-2012 05:43 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  
(05-29-2012 05:37 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn may have the best defense in the conference and the OP has them at 1-6 in the Big East? WTF?

While I don't agree with much in the overall projections, I was curious about the bolded comment. How many starters return from the UConn D? I'm assuming most are returning and are expected to improve, just because UConn was 2nd to last in scoring D in league play last season, and only 2 points out from being last. There was a pretty big split down the middle in defense last season. Rutgers, UofL, Pitt, and Cincy all gave up 20-22 points a game in league play. Then USF, Cuse, UConn, and WVU all gave up 28-29 points a game. I wasn't sure what is the most likely cause to move UConn into that upper half, or best in the conference.

UConn has nine returning starters on defense. UConn was #4 in the nation last year against the run, and #113 against the pass. But there were a ton of "issues" in the secondary (injuries, etc.). I think the secondary will be much improved and the run defense will be just as good as it was last year.

I don't know if UConn will have the "best" defense in the conference; I can't say that. But they'll definitely be in the top two or three - no question about it.

The two problems UConn had last year were QB and a decimated secondary. It appears both of those problems will be solved this year. I just can't see us going 1-6. Maybe 3-4 if all goes wrong.
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(05-29-2012 07:38 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(05-29-2012 05:43 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  
(05-29-2012 05:37 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn may have the best defense in the conference and the OP has them at 1-6 in the Big East? WTF?

While I don't agree with much in the overall projections, I was curious about the bolded comment. How many starters return from the UConn D? I'm assuming most are returning and are expected to improve, just because UConn was 2nd to last in scoring D in league play last season, and only 2 points out from being last. There was a pretty big split down the middle in defense last season. Rutgers, UofL, Pitt, and Cincy all gave up 20-22 points a game in league play. Then USF, Cuse, UConn, and WVU all gave up 28-29 points a game. I wasn't sure what is the most likely cause to move UConn into that upper half, or best in the conference.

UConn has nine returning starters on defense. UConn was #4 in the nation last year against the run, and #113 against the pass. But there were a ton of "issues" in the secondary (injuries, etc.). I think the secondary will be much improved and the run defense will be just as good as it was last year.

I don't know if UConn will have the "best" defense in the conference; I can't say that. But they'll definitely be in the top two or three - no question about it.

The two problems UConn had last year were QB and a decimated secondary. It appears both of those problems will be solved this year. I just can't see us going 1-6. Maybe 3-4 if all goes wrong.

Thanks for the info. It sounds like UConn is primed for a good defense even though I suspect they'll have plenty of competition for top 2/3 in the league. I agree with you though, I don't see you guys down at 1-6.
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Louisville will win the Big East with a 10-2 record...6-1 in the Big East....UC & Rutgers will be good. Temple will be better then what you think and Pitt & Cuse will get the beatings they deserve....USF & Uconn will be mid pack teams. Im ready for football!
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I just don't see, granted, I haven't seen enough of him to really make a good judgement but the one game I did watch UL vs FIU, Strong was out coached by Cristobal big time.
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03-phew:phew:YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT UNDRESTIMATE TEMPLE. they play uconn in storrs early an theyr'e very well coached.............

there is a lot of parity in the league, uconn got a real good qb, jc transfer as does louville, rutgers, syracuse, cinci, usf,.
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(05-29-2012 12:47 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I did this on C-USAbbs because my Knights are still in the conference, but I figure I might try my hand at a Big East prediction because very soon, Syracuse and Pittsburgh will be gone. But...here we go, we start with OOC games, then overall:

Louisville Cardinals - 3-2 (wins: Kentucky, Missouri State, North Carolina --- losses: @FIU, @Southern Miss)

> Louisville brings in a ton of senior talent in the secondary, and with most of their OOC opponents relying heavily on the pass (Kentucky, UNC, Southern Miss), I think Louisville will manage to put together a good season.

> Teddy Bridgewater stepped into a leadership role early, getting his shoes wet, and really made the most of his first season, and I think the progress continues with a 2nd straight bowl appearance. Final record: 6-6 (3-4) *BOWL*
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Final Standings:
1. Cincinnati*** - (12-0) (7-0)
2. Pittsburgh* - (7-5) (4-3)
3. Rutgers* - (7-5) (4-3)
4. USF* - (8-4) (4-3)
5. Syracuse* (8-4) (4-3)
6. Louisville* (6-6) (3-4)
7. Temple (2-9) (1-6)
8. Connecticut (4-8) (1-6)

*** - Sugar Bowl v. SEC
* - bowl berths

ENJOY! 04-cheers

Something tells me "someone" didn't watch much BIG EAST Football.

A couple of corrections, Louisville only starts 1 Sr. Adrian Bushell in the secondary and also Louisville is going to it 3rd straight Bowl appearence. Everyone returns that starts in their secondary.

Also, FTR the over/under total win total for Louisville is 9.5 in Las Vegas...guess you are taking the under.

Here is the wise guys picks for the BIG EAST:

Big East Champion

Louisville +180
South Florida +300
Cincinnati +350
Rutgers +400
Pittsburgh +500
Syracuse +1200
Temple +1500
Connecticut +1500

http://beyondthebets.com/2012/04/18/who-...itle-odds/
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(05-30-2012 01:16 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  03-phew:phew:YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT UNDRESTIMATE TEMPLE. they play uconn in storrs early an theyr'e very well coached.............

there is a lot of parity in the league, uconn got a real good qb, jc transfer as does louville, rutgers, syracuse, cinci, usf,.

Chris Coyer was the most efficient QB in the country last year.
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UConn won't lose to Western Michigan unless their D gets way better. They beat us last year because of terrific receiver play...Ravenall, Arnheim, and White have all graduated. NCSU is certainly a lose-able game. Overall, I won't rule out 4-8, but that is a worst case scenario for us.

Don Brown's defenses typically improve leaps and bounds from year one to year two. I expect UConn's defense to make that jump, much as Maryland's defense did in 2010. Not sold on the offense, mostly because I'm not sold on DeLeone as either an OC or an OL coach.
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