Or maybe not....

http://www.nypost.com/video?freewheel=90...D=23628151

She still needs some sort of punishment. Maybe 6 months. Being drunk is not a legal defense for committing a crime, and getting shot by the people you are violating is not a punishment. Intent and prior history should be a factor, but again at 3X the legal limit there needs to be a lesson taught here.

I have mixed feelings about this. But if this happened in California, the home owners would be in jail and the kid would be the states newest lottery winner.

Lessons for all.
Lock your doors.
Watch how much you consume.


If that good looking girl wouldve walked into my bedroom, my lady would've shot me (thinking I had something to do with it).

1 year's probation seems fair to me.

(05-28-2012 04:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have mixed feelings about this. But if this happened in California, the home owners would be in jail and the kid would be the states newest lottery winner.

Half of your posts are just non-existent examples which you come up with simply to assert that the other side would act in a worse way, which of course is just your projection of their views and not necessarily an indication of reality. It's sorta sad, actually.

(05-28-2012 07:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 04:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have mixed feelings about this. But if this happened in California, the home owners would be in jail and the kid would be the states newest lottery winner.

Half of your posts are just non-existent examples which you come up with simply to assert that the other side would act in a worse way, which of course is just your projection of their views and not necessarily an indication of reality. It's sorta sad, actually.

What, I can't contrast the differences between the states?

(05-28-2012 07:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 07:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 04:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have mixed feelings about this. But if this happened in California, the home owners would be in jail and the kid would be the states newest lottery winner.

Half of your posts are just non-existent examples which you come up with simply to assert that the other side would act in a worse way, which of course is just your projection of their views and not necessarily an indication of reality. It's sorta sad, actually.

What, I can't contrast the differences between the states?

But you're not quoting actual legislation or past similar occurrences, you're simply making up a scenario and deciding it would result in a way that would upset you. So, you're not contrasting the differences between the states, what you're truly doing contrasting your own projection of the differences between the states.

(05-28-2012 07:53 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 07:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 07:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 04:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have mixed feelings about this. But if this happened in California, the home owners would be in jail and the kid would be the states newest lottery winner.

Half of your posts are just non-existent examples which you come up with simply to assert that the other side would act in a worse way, which of course is just your projection of their views and not necessarily an indication of reality. It's sorta sad, actually.

What, I can't contrast the differences between the states?

But you're not quoting actual legislation or past similar occurrences, you're simply making up a scenario and deciding it would result in a way that would upset you. So, you're not contrasting the differences between the states, what you're truly doing contrasting your own projection of the differences between the states.

No, I'm telling you what would happen in California. I lived there for 21 years and doing anything with a gun will get you in trouble, big trouble. And I'm sorry for not posting the exaxt legislation, newspapers and TV news don't often quote the exact law that was broken.

No, you're absolutely not telling me 'what would happen', you're telling me what you think would happen. And of course, that's filtered through your own personal opinion on the state and it's legislation/view on guns in general. You can't argue this point with me, because that's literally what's occurring here; you fabricated a scenario and stated what you think would occur.

This same scenario actually happened to a kid I went to law school with. My third year of law school, he was really drunk and got dropped off at his apartment complex by some of his law school buddies. He'd always leave the sliding glass door to his apartment unlocked. Apparently, this night, he went in the wrong apartment which just happened to have a sliding glass door unlocked and the guy who lived their shot him in the head and killed him. No prosecution was possible because of the castle doctrine. It was a tragedy. Just wish he got dropped off one building over. Or that the guy locked his door.

Can't blame home-owners though. They've got to be terrified because someone is in their house in the middle of the night.

I hope they drop the charges on this girl. Just give her a deferred agreement to keep it off her record.

(05-28-2012 08:23 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  No, you're absolutely not telling me 'what would happen', you're telling me what you think would happen. And of course, that's filtered through your own personal opinion on the state and it's legislation/view on guns in general. You can't argue this point with me, because that's literally what's occurring here; you fabricated a scenario and stated what you think would occur.

OK. Prove me wrong, go to California and shoot someone.

Sadly, I think that might be easier than you just no longer relying on th illogical thought process I'm pointing out.

(05-28-2012 08:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Sadly, I think that might be easier than you just no longer relying on th illogical thought process I'm pointing out.

If I said that speeding will get you a ticket, you would argue that I can't possibly know that. And then you'd want the exact ordinance that was broken.

If I say up, you say down. Why are you ******* stalkimg me?

I'm fascinated by ignorance, what can I say?

(05-28-2012 08:52 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I'm fascinated by ignorance, what can I say?

Well if you want fascination beyond your wildest dreams, study liberals.

Both sides are pretty sad in that regards, really.

(05-28-2012 07:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 04:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have mixed feelings about this. But if this happened in California, the home owners would be in jail and the kid would be the states newest lottery winner.

Half of your posts are just non-existent examples which you come up with simply to assert that the other side would act in a worse way, which of course is just your projection of their views and not necessarily an indication of reality. It's sorta sad, actually.

For crying out loud, just read it like hyperbole. He may not mean it that way but it'll be a lot easier on your blood pressure. And for the record, he's generally correct. CA's version of castle law requires forceable entry AND great fear of bodily harm before you can use deadly force. Coupled with the generally anti-gun sentiment in the most populated counties in this state, it's a fair bet that the homeowners would be prosecuted. And sued.

On another note, does anybody beside me think calling a law the "Make my Day" law is problematic?

(05-29-2012 10:17 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 07:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 04:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I have mixed feelings about this. But if this happened in California, the home owners would be in jail and the kid would be the states newest lottery winner.

Half of your posts are just non-existent examples which you come up with simply to assert that the other side would act in a worse way, which of course is just your projection of their views and not necessarily an indication of reality. It's sorta sad, actually.

For crying out loud, just read it like hyperbole. He may not mean it that way but it'll be a lot easier on your blood pressure. And for the record, he's generally correct. CA's version of castle law requires forceable entry AND great fear of bodily harm before you can use deadly force. Coupled with the generally anti-gun sentiment in the most populated counties in this state, it's a fair bet that the homeowners would be prosecuted. And sued.

On another note, does anybody beside me think calling a law the "Make my Day" law is problematic?

That's not the official name of the law is it? Probably a nickname. Here in Florida the Stand Your Ground law is nicknamed the "Wild Wild West Law" lol.

(05-28-2012 08:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 08:52 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I'm fascinated by ignorance, what can I say?

Well if you want fascination beyond your wildest dreams, study liberals.

UCF is a f'ing ignorant troll just like Roberta and like Roberta is a school dropout, sorts facts based on perception and is a shelia.

(05-30-2012 08:57 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 08:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 08:52 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I'm fascinated by ignorance, what can I say?

Well if you want fascination beyond your wildest dreams, study liberals.

UCF is a f'ing ignorant troll just like Roberta and like Roberta is a school dropout, sorts facts based on perception and is a shelia.

I'm a school dropout? That's weird, I guess I really shouldn't have just taken that OChem test then.

(05-30-2012 09:43 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 08:57 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 08:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 08:52 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I'm fascinated by ignorance, what can I say?

Well if you want fascination beyond your wildest dreams, study liberals.

UCF is a f'ing ignorant troll just like Roberta and like Roberta is a school dropout, sorts facts based on perception and is a shelia.

I'm a school dropout? That's weird, I guess I really shouldn't have just taken that OChem test then.

Taking it and passing it are two different things. How'd ya do on it?