(05-28-2012 10:46 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  If FSU Board of Trustee members look at that map, then realize they'd be logging alot of mileage -- especially for their Title IX programs -- and still decide to jump for what looks like green pastures, then...



"Bye" -- Good luck negotiating with Texas and T. Boone Pickens.

The vast majority of Olympic sports do not play a traditional conference schedule. I'd suggest you take a minute to pry yourself away from UNC basketball highlights and take a look at the actual schedules of Olympic sports teams.

(05-28-2012 03:50 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 10:46 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  If FSU Board of Trustee members look at that map, then realize they'd be logging alot of mileage -- especially for their Title IX programs -- and still decide to jump for what looks like green pastures, then...



"Bye" -- Good luck negotiating with Texas and T. Boone Pickens.

The vast majority of Olympic sports do not play a traditional conference schedule. I'd suggest you take a minute to pry yourself away from UNC basketball highlights and take a look at the actual schedules of Olympic sports teams.

+1

(05-28-2012 03:26 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 03:18 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 03:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 02:57 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 12:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  We don't fit the CUSA profile ....

True...

In 11 seasons of CUSA Basketball, ECU's highest finish was a tie for 7th and NEVER had a winning season in CUSA play.

In 11 years of CUSA Basketball, ECU has just a 47-115 conf record.

In football, ECU has been a member of CUSA for 15 seasons...and contrary to what ECU fans want you to believe, ECU has won just 2 conf titles in 15 years.

Over the last 10 years, ECU Football has just a 56-69 overall record.

I was refering to ECU's fan support ......

Ah....and I guess that doesn't count basketball fan support, right?
I get soooo confused when discussing which facts ECU fans want others to know...as they certainly seem to run and hide when their basketball and even football results get printed.

It's pretty average for CUSA standards. It's no secret that ECU hasn't really given a damn about basketball. It's the only place I've ever seen that demands more of baseball than basketball. We've finally got an AD that gets basketball and despite what you believe it's going to improve.

You do realize that ECU hired their "BASKETBALL AD" (former ACC Virginia Head Coach Terry Holland EIGHT YEARS AGO in 2004!!!

Everyone "thought" he was going to focus/improve ECU Hoops starting in 2004...especially because of his background and connections in the coaching community...and here it is...almost 8 years later...and ECU is coming off another dismal basketball season.

(05-28-2012 03:20 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 02:41 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 01:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-27-2012 06:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  Looking at the map just shows what a stupid idea it is.

Pretty much.

Agree...

Why? Since my school is Big East? Well, because think about ladies' hoops, golf, softball, and every other sport having to travel that. It's EASY to do it long-range with your football team on a charter-plane, it's HELL to do it for all the other sports. San Diego St & Boise are FB-only Big East.


WVU/T-Tech will be one I'll watch for sure in football, since the feeling of the entire rest of the conference will be that their gameday fans "deserve each other."

It actually isn't hell for Boise at all when it comes to traveling and I am gonna assume every other University.
Boise State (As well as WSU,The Portland Timbers, Seattle Seahawks,ect), have a sponsorship deal with Alaskan Airlines and Delta. They get discounts and can basically fly a whole team for less that $750 so I am told. A friend of mine works in Billing at The University of Tennessee and they fly for less than that.
Also,If you ever get stuck at an airport because of weather or delay the Airline puts you in a hotel. The reason is the Airline and hotel have benefit packages the airline has for those occasions that they can write off at the end of the year. The hotel gets the cash and the Airline does not have to worry about paying for it. So on away games teams like BSU get a discount. At UT they paid around $7 a room.
The only thing it really effects is the fanbase for the away team and not the team itself. Also- At Boise State the band and cheerleaders run on a different budget, that is why we do not always take the band on away games.
So this travel budget talk is a crock unless Boise State and UT are special.
For the record I am flying to Knoxville,TN in 7 weeks. $323 round trip. This was on an 8 week notice with no discounts or anything. Not hard to imagine a University planning a year or more in advance with some advertising getting even better discounts than a Boise could do. The whole travel issue is more message board fodder for angry fans than anything else.
You will see 2 of these at Gowen field anytime you go to the Airport. They have 4 of them. Two are for the University and there are 2 more for everyday travel for normal day to day flights around the country. Planes are different sizes as well.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-...0-bsu.aspx

If what you say is true, than I wouldn't have run into the golf team, and ladies' hoops, and Tennis... flying COMMERCIAL in various airports around the West over the last 3-4 years. They charter SOME for non-revenue sports, but not most or all here. Tennessee may well do them all, but they can afford it. Discounted commercial-air options are cheaper than chartering with a Q400 for many athletic events, when you look at the travel-budget.

(05-28-2012 04:12 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 03:20 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 02:41 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  

(05-28-2012 01:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-27-2012 06:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  Looking at the map just shows what a stupid idea it is.

Pretty much.

Agree...

Why? Since my school is Big East? Well, because think about ladies' hoops, golf, softball, and every other sport having to travel that. It's EASY to do it long-range with your football team on a charter-plane, it's HELL to do it for all the other sports. San Diego St & Boise are FB-only Big East.


WVU/T-Tech will be one I'll watch for sure in football, since the feeling of the entire rest of the conference will be that their gameday fans "deserve each other."

It actually isn't hell for Boise at all when it comes to traveling and I am gonna assume every other University.
Boise State (As well as WSU,The Portland Timbers, Seattle Seahawks,ect), have a sponsorship deal with Alaskan Airlines and Delta. They get discounts and can basically fly a whole team for less that $750 so I am told. A friend of mine works in Billing at The University of Tennessee and they fly for less than that.
Also,If you ever get stuck at an airport because of weather or delay the Airline puts you in a hotel. The reason is the Airline and hotel have benefit packages the airline has for those occasions that they can write off at the end of the year. The hotel gets the cash and the Airline does not have to worry about paying for it. So on away games teams like BSU get a discount. At UT they paid around $7 a room.
The only thing it really effects is the fanbase for the away team and not the team itself. Also- At Boise State the band and cheerleaders run on a different budget, that is why we do not always take the band on away games.
So this travel budget talk is a crock unless Boise State and UT are special.
For the record I am flying to Knoxville,TN in 7 weeks. $323 round trip. This was on an 8 week notice with no discounts or anything. Not hard to imagine a University planning a year or more in advance with some advertising getting even better discounts than a Boise could do. The whole travel issue is more message board fodder for angry fans than anything else.
You will see 2 of these at Gowen field anytime you go to the Airport. They have 4 of them. Two are for the University and there are 2 more for everyday travel for normal day to day flights around the country. Planes are different sizes as well.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-...0-bsu.aspx

If what you say is true, than I wouldn't have run into the golf team, and ladies' hoops, and Tennis... flying COMMERCIAL in various airports around the West over the last 3-4 years. They charter SOME for non-revenue sports, but not most or all here. Tennessee may well do them all, but they can afford it. Discounted commercial-air options are cheaper than chartering with a Q400 for many athletic events, when you look at the travel-budget.

Why would a school use a whole plane to take 2 coaches and 3 to 5 tennis players across the country?
Honestly, basketball team flies by itself. Next time you see a player on campus ask them.
I doubt any school will fly a few players to a golf Tournament but I bet they get the same discount the other sports get.

Notre Dame is flying its football team and just about everyone else you can imagine to Dublin, Ireland for its opening game.

It will fly those same people out to Los Angeles for its last regular season game.

The team flies out to California every season (rotating USC/Stanford).

Its baseball team travels every spring to Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Texas and Louisiana for its first 15 or so games every February/early March.

Its basketball team travels as far east as UConn and as far south as USF to play conference basketball games. Sometimes, they travel to UCLA to play an out of conference game.

Of all of the "issues" regarding realignment, I think that travel costs are the last thing on the Pro/Con list.

(05-28-2012 04:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Knightlight........Football expansion was still the #1 priority to generate revenue first. You've got to have the money to improve facilities. Our other facilities (sans baseball) were in terrible shape and we pretty much had no choice in the order we upgraded. Why don't you just worry about UCF? All this smack talk coming from a UCF fan who's AD was directly involved in a recruiting scandal. Give me a ******* break.

Never in my life have a seen another fanbase so OBSESSED with what ECU does and how we choose to do it. Nobody asked for your ******* opinion.

Well to be fair ECU fans usually bring ECU up in every conversation. If someone is talking stadium size or attendance it doesn't take long for a Pirate to bring up their stadium size and attendance. I have seen Big East, Big 12, and SEC threads this week alone get turned into an ECU VS. thread.
That is just one example. I understand it is your team and you bring them up for comparisons sake or to share on the board but when you get some backlash bringing ECU up you set yourself up for some it sometimes.

(05-28-2012 04:29 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Notre Dame is flying its football team and just about everyone else you can imagine to Dublin, Ireland for its opening game.

It will fly those same people out to Los Angeles for its last regular season game.

The team flies out to California every season (rotating USC/Stanford).

Its baseball team travels every spring to Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Texas and Louisiana for its first 15 or so games every February/early March.

Its basketball team travels as far east as UConn and as far south as USF to play conference basketball games. Sometimes, they travel to UCLA to play an out of conference game.

Of all of the "issues" regarding realignment, I think that travel costs are the last thing on the Pro/Con list.

Who flies?

(05-28-2012 04:29 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Of all of the "issues" regarding realignment, I think that travel costs are the last thing on the Pro/Con list.

It's not really an issue, it's just a convenient red herring to throw out there and confuse the people who don;t know any better.

travell budgets aporach million dollars
there a factor

(05-28-2012 05:37 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  travell budgets aporach million dollars
there a factor

You do realize this post looks like it was made by a 10 year old, trying to sound like an adult. Don't you?

learned from you Bit

(05-28-2012 06:00 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  learned from you Bit

That was your first mistake...

(05-28-2012 06:00 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  learned from you Bit

You know, I don't always agree with Bit...but that right there was about as asinine a statement as could be made.

I busted your ass on the ACC boards a few months ago because you post like a 14 year old sending a text. The post in question was just as bad.

I don't give a good GD about spelling mistakes, or grammatical errors as long as it's somewhat legible. 95% of what you post is neither, and if you are a graduate of Temple it is a poor representation of the education that the have to offer.

Bit might have some far out there ideas at times, he might misspell something, and he might have a grammar error every now and then....but at least 90% of the folks on here can understand it. Your posts are more often than not unintelligible gibberish that looks like it was sent by a preteen trying to hit on a girl in a text message.