Dear Leader can and will squeeze political capital out of anything and everything.

Quote:Just weeks after Pentagon and Central Intelligence Agency officials warned publicly of the dangers posed by leaks about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, top officials at both agencies and at the White House granted Hollywood filmmakers unusual access to those involved in planning the raid and some of the methods they used to do it, newly released government records show.

At a briefing in July 2011, Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Mike Vickers told filmmakers Mark Boal and Kathryn Bigelow that the leaders of the the Special Operations Command couldn't speak to them for appearances' sake. However, Vickers said that the Pentagon would make available a Navy SEAL who was involved in planning the raid from its earliest stages.

"On the operators side, Adm. McRaven and Adm. Olson do not want to talk directly, because it's just a bad, their [sic] just concerned as commanders of the force and they're telling them all the time—don't you dare talk to anybody, that it's just a bad example if it gets out—even with all sorts of restrictions and everything," Vickers said, according to a transcript of the meeting released Friday to Judicial Watch. The conservative watchdog group filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit demanding the documents.

"The basic idea is they'll make a guy available who was involved from the beginning as a planner, a SEAL Team 6 Operator and Commander," McRaven said.

"That's dynamite," Boal replied, according to the transcript. (Posted in full here and worth the read.)

Bigelow, best known for "The Hurt Locker," also chimed in. "That's incredible," she said, gratefully.

"He'll speak for operators and he'll speak for senior military commanders," Vickers continued, adding that the designated SEAL would essentially be a mouthpiece for McRaven and Olson. "The only thing we ask is that you not reveal his name in any way as a consultant because again it's the same thing, he shouldn't be talking out of school, this at least gives him one step removed and he knows what he can and can't say," Vickers added, vouching that the SEAL cleared to meet with the filmmakers would be able to provide "lots of color."

The Pentagon is now withholding from the public and the press the same name DoD gave the filmmakers. The response sent to Judicial Watch explains the deletion by citing privacy concerns as well as a statute allowing the Secretary of Defense to protect the names of members of "routinely deployable" and "sensitive" units. It is unclear whether the court will uphold such a withholding given that the name was already disclosed to a member of the public by a senior official, apparently with some forethought.

A Pentagon spokesman stressed Tuesday night that the name given to the filmmakers was not that of someone directly involved in carrying out the bin Laden raid.

"The identity of a planner, not a member of SEAL Team 6, was provided by USSOCOM as a possible point of contact for additional information if the DoD determined that additional support was merited," Lt. Col. James Gregory said. "No additional official DoD support was granted, nor to our knowledge was it pursued by the film makers."

Gregory added Wednesday afternoon that the SEAL assigned to meet with the filmmakers never actually did so. It's unclear why, but the issue of administration cooperation with the film became a matter of public controversy in early August, just a few weeks after the July 15 meeting between Vickers and the film team.

"The redaction suggests the disclosure of the Seal Team Six leader's name to Bigelow and Boal was improper," Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told POLITICO Tuesday night.

Some Republicans have accused the Obama administration of having shared secret information with the movie team in order to paint President Barack Obama in a flattering light in a film that was originally scheduled to come out before the November election. The film, now called "Zero Dark Thirty," has since been delayed to Dec. 19.

The documents obtained by Judicial Watch show the White House and the CIA also rolled out the welcome mat for the filmmakers. Boal visited with acting CIA director Michael Morrell and had access to a mock-up at CIA headquarters that depicted the Abbottabad, Pakistan compound where the raid was carried out, the records indicate.

"After reviewing these emails, I am even more concerned about the possible exposure of classified information to these filmmakers, who as far as I know, do not possess security clearances," House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King (R-N.Y.) said in a statement early Wednesday. "The email messages indicate that the filmmakers were allowed an unprecedented visit to a classified facility so secret that its name is redacted in the released email. If this facility is so secret that the name cannot even be seen by the public, then why in the world would the Obama Administration allow filmmakers to tour it?"

CIA officials seemed aware that cooperating with Boal was in some tension with the government's public line that it was trying to crack down on leaks.

"We’re trying to keep [Boal's] visits at HQs [sic] a bit quiet, because of the sensitivities surrounding who gets to participates in this types of things [sic]," CIA spokesman Marie Harf wrote to a colleague in June 2011. "I’m sure you understand."

Last December, Harf left the CIA for President Barack Obama's re-election campaign, where she is associate policy director for national security.

"The CIA has been open about our engagement with writers, documentary filmmakers, movie and TV producers, and others in the entertainment industry," CIA Spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood said in an e-mail Tuesday night. "The protection of national security equities is always paramount in any engagement with the entertainment industry."

At the White House, Boal apparently met with National Security Council Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and Deputy National Security Adviser for Counterterrorism John Brennan. There are few details on those meetings in the released records. The White House is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act.

King also described as "troubling" the role of a Democratic lobbying shop, Glover Park Group, in arranging some of the meetings. The names of Glover's Sarah Zukowski and Michael Feldman, a former aide to Vice President Al Gore, appear on various e-mails related to the sessions.

A spokeswoman for the Pentagon's Inspector General said Wednesday that an investigation into disclosures of DoD information to the bin Laden movie filmmakers is ongoing.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-...24293.html

(05-27-2012 12:10 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Dear Leader can and will squeeze political capital out of anything and everything.

Quote:Just weeks after Pentagon and Central Intelligence Agency officials warned publicly of the dangers posed by leaks about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, top officials at both agencies and at the White House granted Hollywood filmmakers unusual access to those involved in planning the raid and some of the methods they used to do it, newly released government records show.

At a briefing in July 2011, Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Mike Vickers told filmmakers Mark Boal and Kathryn Bigelow that the leaders of the the Special Operations Command couldn't speak to them for appearances' sake. However, Vickers said that the Pentagon would make available a Navy SEAL who was involved in planning the raid from its earliest stages.

"On the operators side, Adm. McRaven and Adm. Olson do not want to talk directly, because it's just a bad, their [sic] just concerned as commanders of the force and they're telling them all the time—don't you dare talk to anybody, that it's just a bad example if it gets out—even with all sorts of restrictions and everything," Vickers said, according to a transcript of the meeting released Friday to Judicial Watch. The conservative watchdog group filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit demanding the documents.

"The basic idea is they'll make a guy available who was involved from the beginning as a planner, a SEAL Team 6 Operator and Commander," McRaven said.

"That's dynamite," Boal replied, according to the transcript. (Posted in full here and worth the read.)

Bigelow, best known for "The Hurt Locker," also chimed in. "That's incredible," she said, gratefully.

"He'll speak for operators and he'll speak for senior military commanders," Vickers continued, adding that the designated SEAL would essentially be a mouthpiece for McRaven and Olson. "The only thing we ask is that you not reveal his name in any way as a consultant because again it's the same thing, he shouldn't be talking out of school, this at least gives him one step removed and he knows what he can and can't say," Vickers added, vouching that the SEAL cleared to meet with the filmmakers would be able to provide "lots of color."

The Pentagon is now withholding from the public and the press the same name DoD gave the filmmakers. The response sent to Judicial Watch explains the deletion by citing privacy concerns as well as a statute allowing the Secretary of Defense to protect the names of members of "routinely deployable" and "sensitive" units. It is unclear whether the court will uphold such a withholding given that the name was already disclosed to a member of the public by a senior official, apparently with some forethought.

A Pentagon spokesman stressed Tuesday night that the name given to the filmmakers was not that of someone directly involved in carrying out the bin Laden raid.

"The identity of a planner, not a member of SEAL Team 6, was provided by USSOCOM as a possible point of contact for additional information if the DoD determined that additional support was merited," Lt. Col. James Gregory said. "No additional official DoD support was granted, nor to our knowledge was it pursued by the film makers."

Gregory added Wednesday afternoon that the SEAL assigned to meet with the filmmakers never actually did so. It's unclear why, but the issue of administration cooperation with the film became a matter of public controversy in early August, just a few weeks after the July 15 meeting between Vickers and the film team.

"The redaction suggests the disclosure of the Seal Team Six leader's name to Bigelow and Boal was improper," Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told POLITICO Tuesday night.

Some Republicans have accused the Obama administration of having shared secret information with the movie team in order to paint President Barack Obama in a flattering light in a film that was originally scheduled to come out before the November election. The film, now called "Zero Dark Thirty," has since been delayed to Dec. 19.

The documents obtained by Judicial Watch show the White House and the CIA also rolled out the welcome mat for the filmmakers. Boal visited with acting CIA director Michael Morrell and had access to a mock-up at CIA headquarters that depicted the Abbottabad, Pakistan compound where the raid was carried out, the records indicate.

"After reviewing these emails, I am even more concerned about the possible exposure of classified information to these filmmakers, who as far as I know, do not possess security clearances," House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King (R-N.Y.) said in a statement early Wednesday. "The email messages indicate that the filmmakers were allowed an unprecedented visit to a classified facility so secret that its name is redacted in the released email. If this facility is so secret that the name cannot even be seen by the public, then why in the world would the Obama Administration allow filmmakers to tour it?"

CIA officials seemed aware that cooperating with Boal was in some tension with the government's public line that it was trying to crack down on leaks.

"We’re trying to keep [Boal's] visits at HQs [sic] a bit quiet, because of the sensitivities surrounding who gets to participates in this types of things [sic]," CIA spokesman Marie Harf wrote to a colleague in June 2011. "I’m sure you understand."

Last December, Harf left the CIA for President Barack Obama's re-election campaign, where she is associate policy director for national security.

"The CIA has been open about our engagement with writers, documentary filmmakers, movie and TV producers, and others in the entertainment industry," CIA Spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood said in an e-mail Tuesday night. "The protection of national security equities is always paramount in any engagement with the entertainment industry."

At the White House, Boal apparently met with National Security Council Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and Deputy National Security Adviser for Counterterrorism John Brennan. There are few details on those meetings in the released records. The White House is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act.

King also described as "troubling" the role of a Democratic lobbying shop, Glover Park Group, in arranging some of the meetings. The names of Glover's Sarah Zukowski and Michael Feldman, a former aide to Vice President Al Gore, appear on various e-mails related to the sessions.

A spokeswoman for the Pentagon's Inspector General said Wednesday that an investigation into disclosures of DoD information to the bin Laden movie filmmakers is ongoing.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-...24293.html

I don't remember hearing any complaints from you guys when a CIA agent was outed by your side.

(05-27-2012 12:51 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I don't remember hearing any complaints from you guys when a CIA agent was outed by your side.

Then you weren't paying attention.

This is an outing of an agent.

The silence from the NY/DC axis is deafening.

(05-27-2012 12:51 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I don't remember hearing any complaints from you guys when a CIA agent was outed by your side.

Surely you don't mean Valerie Plame?

(05-27-2012 09:12 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2012 12:51 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I don't remember hearing any complaints from you guys when a CIA agent was outed by your side.

Surely you don't mean Valerie Plame?

Couldn't be. She wasn't an agent, she was already out, and what was leaked didn't come from the right.

(05-27-2012 09:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-27-2012 09:12 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2012 12:51 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I don't remember hearing any complaints from you guys when a CIA agent was outed by your side.

Surely you don't mean Valerie Plame?

Couldn't be. She wasn't an agent, she was already out, and what was leaked didn't come from the right.

Remember who we're talking about here. I know this, and you know this. But I'd say it's a good bet Robert doesn't.

Corn and her own husband.

You honestly think any other president would do any differently? Not that that makes it right, but at least be honest.

(05-28-2012 07:58 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  You honestly think any other president would do any differently? Not that that makes it right, but at least be honest.

The response from our 'independent' .. They all do it so what!

Well given the two legitimate choices we have, do you think either one wouldn't have done that?

(05-28-2012 08:31 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Well given the two legitimate choices we have, do you think either one wouldn't have done that?

The difference is the libertarians on this board would go apesh1t either way... You I suspect would be far more upset if president Romney did it..

Of course you would assume that, but you'd be wrong. I choose carefully which things I get upset about, and things like this are nothing but one side trying to make the other side look bad by pointing out something they themselves would have done given the chance. Those are not the sorts of things that get me worked up about, actually it makes me more worked up towards the side trying to act like it's on the higher ground, like the dems with the whole stupid 'Mission Accomplished' thing.