(05-26-2012 07:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(05-26-2012 06:30 PM)Comet Wrote:  I can't help but give major props to the Big XII. Just less than 12 months ago they were looking like the biggest joke of a conference in the country. They were seriously just hanging by a thread, if that. Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, etc., were looking like they might be having to go to the Big East. Flash forward to today and somehow they've reaffirmed their top 4 big boy status.

that's the power of tent pole programs like Texas and OU digging in and staying put

More like tent pole programs like Texas and OU trying to get out and realizing they couldn't get into the PAC-12 or B1G, and if they could, would have to take along another otherwise unwanted program like TT or OSU, which killed the deal.

(05-27-2012 02:44 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(05-26-2012 07:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(05-26-2012 06:30 PM)Comet Wrote:  I can't help but give major props to the Big XII. Just less than 12 months ago they were looking like the biggest joke of a conference in the country. They were seriously just hanging by a thread, if that. Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, etc., were looking like they might be having to go to the Big East. Flash forward to today and somehow they've reaffirmed their top 4 big boy status.

that's the power of tent pole programs like Texas and OU digging in and staying put

More like tent pole programs like Texas and OU trying to get out and realizing they couldn't get into the PAC-12 or B1G, and if they could, would have to take along another otherwise unwanted program like TT or OSU, which killed the deal.

That and Texas greed were what killed the Pac12 deal. They definitely will revisit this again at some point in the future. For the record, pac12 would have taken OU alone had OSU not insisted coming along.

(05-27-2012 02:01 PM)Ottoman Wrote:  

(05-26-2012 06:28 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Swofford showed up on Clemson's campus, hoping to make a pitch at Thursday's BOT meeting, trying to keep the ACC membership stable. But the obviously pro-Big XII crowd was thick, laughing derisively at him, and blocked his path so much that he gave up and didn't try to enter...

SYR and PItt were joining the ACC for FB security. If Clemson and FSU leave, there's not much reason for these teams to join the ACC.

But the "problem" is even with FSU & Clemson "Football Security" is gone...when the SEC/Big XII did their "little deal" along with the current Pac 12/B1G setup whether he wants to admit it or not the now "Big Four" froze out the ACC.

Their TV Deals & Bowls for the most part are going to drawf what they are going to get...the same can be said for the BIG EAST.

The ACC focused on academics first, basketball 2nd, and football a distant 3rd. But football drives the bus these days. The BEast finally learned that lesson, after 2 raids by the ACC, and 2 more by the Big XII. You'd have thought the ACC learned it as well. But they didn't. So they're now learning it the hard way...

The ACC schools that are primarily football schools should be driving conference politics, since they bring in 80% of the ACC's income. But that isn't the case. The ACC is ruled by a cartel in North Carolina. The football schools are getting tired of carrying all the dead weight in the ACC that have no real interest in playing football - while wielding all the power...

The ACC's football schools can earn far more money in the Big XII...