Geez Louise...like Texas!?!

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(05-14-2012 06:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 05:25 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 05:22 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 05:12 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 04:28 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Well then this place becomes the CUSA board......a bit boring up there.

It is usually pretty controlled until Liberty week happened.

LOL.....now THAT's funny!

App and GaSo pimping threads were far more prevalent and long. Liberty just had the unfortunate timing of coming in behind those pimp-DADDY threads.

Well those were tolerable because a lot of people actually want appalachain state and georgia southern in the sunbelt. Liberty, not so much.

Finally, the truth. It's not the pimping that is objected to - it is the pimpee.

Much like GaState's case......

I have been on here for 3 years and the level of pimpology by the school whose name shall not be uttered is greater than all the pimping that has occurred on the SBC, CUSA, MWC and BE boards combined. Add to that the sheer ability to ignore the word no and I don't think ay of us have seen anything like it.

(05-14-2012 06:22 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 03:53 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  OK....let's get back to a PURELY athletic discussion. TOM, PANAMA, NO religious or political talk and I will adhere to the same.

Let's discuss this graphic and the related videos from today's press conference -

https://www.liberty.edu/media/1912/infog...l-5f5614c9

Of note - According to Bill Carr we have been talking with "several conferences," including other programs about moving up. I am sure that includes Benson and the SBC. Our Chancellor said we could make a decision in less than 48 hours and that no other university was willing to do so. Some intelligent posters on the MAC thread are discussing our Flames Sports Network and the fact that we are in 40 million households nationwide. At the press conference it was mentioned by our AD that we would be MORE THAN WILLING to share our Flames Sports Network with the conference unlike Texas, etc. Honestly I am surprised Benson isn't more all over this, 40 million households as an FCS program is a big deal. If you want media market, Liberty has it.

Just visited the flames sports network, http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID=10907 . Doesn't have the look of anything over the top, much less reaching over 10 percent of the U.S. population. Any link to back up "40 million" viewers, or is this just more Liberty spam?

(05-14-2012 06:47 PM)trojans664 Wrote:  Just visited the flames sports network, http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID=10907 . Doesn't have the look of anything over the top, much less reaching over 10 percent of the U.S. population. Any link to back up "40 million" viewers, or is this just more Liberty spam?

Family Net is in 27 million households - http://www.familynet.com/about/

MASN from Charlotte, NC to Harrisburg, PA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlanti...ts_Network

JCTV - Nationwide in 800 cities - http://www.jctv.org/updates/pdf/JCTV_Dis...n_List.pdf



And now Liberty fans anywhere in the world can watch our games on their iPad, iPhone, Droid, etc, via the Liberty Today app.

I suppose that is where the 40 million household number comes from.

From the same link you posted - http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID=10907

"The Flames Sports Network expanded its outreach during the 2003-04 season with the addition of television coverage for home men’s and women’s basketball games, as well as volleyball matches. FamilyNet and the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network (MASN) have joined the football network, representing 40 million additional households coast-to-coast."

This is the point I was trying to get across earlier with regards to national exposure....so take the MAC for example...if ESPN is NOT picking up a MAC feed that day, whoever is playing against Liberty at home is still being seen by a lot of eyes nationwide. Forget Liberty and the benefit to us - wouldn't a conference WANT that for their programs? Anyone care to weigh in with logical, rational, thought provoking discussion? IF I were associated with Middle Tennessee State I would LOVE knowing that an away game at Liberty would be broadcast nationwide to a potential 40 million households. That would be good for MTSU, good for the Sun Belt, and good for Liberty.

(05-14-2012 03:53 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Some intelligent posters on the MAC thread are discussing our Flames Sports Network and the fact that we are in 40 million households nationwide. At the press conference it was mentioned by our AD that we would be MORE THAN WILLING to share our Flames Sports Network with the conference

How much $ per household and do we get our cut up front?

(05-14-2012 08:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 03:53 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Some intelligent posters on the MAC thread are discussing our Flames Sports Network and the fact that we are in 40 million households nationwide. At the press conference it was mentioned by our AD that we would be MORE THAN WILLING to share our Flames Sports Network with the conference

How much $ per household and do we get our cut up front?

I can see the headlines. SBC to get $30M per team after adding the school whose name shall not be uttered thanks to the transitive property of cable TV viewership.

No idea, but our AD said today at the presser that we would be more than willing to share. Look at it from your schools point of view - how often are you in front of a potential 40 million households? Wouldn't you WANT that every time you visit Liberty? What other FCS school thinking about moving up has that kind of network nationwide? Again, nothing against JMU and App State and Georgia Southern but they are regional schools with every little, if any, national appeal. Family Net, with 27 million households, wouldn't be broadcasting ALL of our home games nationwide if there wasn't a market....simple capitalism right there.

Doesnt Comcast Sports Group reach like 50M plus homes?

(05-14-2012 08:29 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  No idea, but our AD said today at the presser that we would be more than willing to share. Look at it from your schools point of view - how often are you in front of a potential 40 million households? Wouldn't you WANT that every time you visit Liberty? What other FCS school thinking about moving up has that kind of network nationwide? Again, nothing against JMU and App State and Georgia Southern but they are regional schools with every little, if any, national appeal. Family Net, with 27 million households, wouldn't be broadcasting ALL of our home games nationwide if there wasn't a market....simple capitalism right there.

If there is bribery involved then I may be more interested. But need more details.

(05-14-2012 08:29 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  No idea, but our AD said today at the presser that we would be more than willing to share. Look at it from your schools point of view - how often are you in front of a potential 40 million households? Wouldn't you WANT that every time you visit Liberty? What other FCS school thinking about moving up has that kind of network nationwide? Again, nothing against JMU and App State and Georgia Southern but they are regional schools with every little, if any, national appeal. Family Net, with 27 million households, wouldn't be broadcasting ALL of our home games nationwide if there wasn't a market....simple capitalism right there.

Very interesting....

(05-14-2012 08:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 06:47 PM)trojans664 Wrote:  Just visited the flames sports network, http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID=10907 . Doesn't have the look of anything over the top, much less reaching over 10 percent of the U.S. population. Any link to back up "40 million" viewers, or is this just more Liberty spam?

Family Net is in 27 million households - http://www.familynet.com/about/

MASN from Charlotte, NC to Harrisburg, PA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlanti...ts_Network

JCTV - Nationwide in 800 cities - http://www.jctv.org/updates/pdf/JCTV_Dis...n_List.pdf



And now Liberty fans anywhere in the world can watch our games on their iPad, iPhone, Droid, etc, via the Liberty Today app.

I suppose that is where the 40 million household number comes from.

From the same link you posted - http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID=10907

"The Flames Sports Network expanded its outreach during the 2003-04 season with the addition of television coverage for home men’s and women’s basketball games, as well as volleyball matches. FamilyNet and the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network (MASN) have joined the football network, representing 40 million additional households coast-to-coast."

This is the point I was trying to get across earlier with regards to national exposure....so take the MAC for example...if ESPN is NOT picking up a MAC feed that day, whoever is playing against Liberty at home is still being seen by a lot of eyes nationwide. Forget Liberty and the benefit to us - wouldn't a conference WANT that for their programs? Anyone care to weigh in with logical, rational, thought provoking discussion? IF I were associated with Middle Tennessee State I would LOVE knowing that an away game at Liberty would be broadcast nationwide to a potential 40 million households. That would be good for MTSU, good for the Sun Belt, and good for Liberty.

Good grief. Please don't tell me that 40 million people actually watch Family Net and Jesus Christ TV. We don't recruit in Maryland. We're not that interested in Mid Atlantic TV either.

Family Net is trying to fill blank air and boost Liberty. I don't think that there really is a

Now if Family Net wants to air 3 or 4 USA games that don't involve Liberty, then you might be getting somewhere. But if all the TV deal is that Liberty is going to get all the coverage, I say..ok it is something, but its not really much. Especially if it blocks the other SBC teams from getting their games on TV.

Enough with Liberty please. Please. Please. Please. I don't watch those channels. I would stop watching television before I'd tune into those channels for any reason. I could state why. But I'd rather not read another word about Liberty.

As an unabashed Liberty alum who lives not far from Tom, I get the frustration and the original premise of the thread. But under no circumstance should any Georgia State poster (especially Panama) ever complain about any other school pimping on this board.

As for our television capabilities, I'm not sure what type of revenue it could generate butwe produce a ton of content. We have our own in-house production company that not only produces home games butost road football games as well. Our entire football season is televised and also carried by ESPN3.

(05-14-2012 10:55 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  As an unabashed Liberty alum who lives not far from Tom, I get the frustration and the original premise of the thread. But under no circumstance should any Georgia State poster (especially Panama) ever complain about any other school pimping on this board.

As for our television capabilities, I'm not sure what type of revenue it could generate butwe produce a ton of content. We have our own in-house production company that not only produces home games butost road football games as well. Our entire football season is televised and also carried by ESPN3.

I relegated any GSU info to a single thread on the Conference Realignment board. I di not start 5 threads a day and try and shove dubious info down people's throats. Watch yourself when calling people out with blatant lies. As for TV, I doubt the goal is to end up in a worse TV exposure situation than being on regional Comcast Sports networks.

(05-14-2012 10:55 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  As an unabashed Liberty alum who lives not far from Tom, I get the frustration and the original premise of the thread. But under no circumstance should any Georgia State poster (especially Panama) ever complain about any other school pimping on this board.

As for our television capabilities, I'm not sure what type of revenue it could generate butwe produce a ton of content. We have our own in-house production company that not only produces home games butost road football games as well. Our entire football season is televised and also carried by ESPN3.

But its of little relevance unless it means that non-Liberty games (say, South Alabama versus Western Kentucky) would be televised

We can go on the road and be televised.

What channels does this network air on?

(05-15-2012 12:38 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  What channels does this network air on?

Family Net is in 27 million households - http://www.familynet.com/about/

MASN from Charlotte, NC to Harrisburg, PA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlanti...ts_Network

JCTV - Nationwide in 800 cities - http://www.jctv.org/updates/pdf/JCTV_Dis...n_List.pdf



Also the majority of games are on ESPN3 as well, in fact I think all.

(05-15-2012 12:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 10:55 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  As an unabashed Liberty alum who lives not far from Tom, I get the frustration and the original premise of the thread. But under no circumstance should any Georgia State poster (especially Panama) ever complain about any other school pimping on this board.

As for our television capabilities, I'm not sure what type of revenue it could generate butwe produce a ton of content. We have our own in-house production company that not only produces home games butost road football games as well. Our entire football season is televised and also carried by ESPN3.

But its of little relevance unless it means that non-Liberty games (say, South Alabama versus Western Kentucky) would be televised

We can go on the road and be televised.

Tom, from the sounds of it, our AD said we would be willing to share. The way he put it made me think we are willing to share our tv space on those channels and MASN, etc with other schools games (not involving Liberty) I could be wrong, but that is what it sounded like.