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RE: New Map
(05-16-2012 03:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  amazing the gap from Wash St and Boise to Minnesota.

that's probably one of the least populated areas in the nation; no wonder that there aren't any FBS schools there
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(05-16-2012 05:42 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  
(05-16-2012 03:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  amazing the gap from Wash St and Boise to Minnesota.

that's probably one of the least populated areas in the nation; no wonder that there aren't any FBS schools there

It's still amazing that even with all the bball schools that there is still none in that area. That's a giant chunk of emptiness lol.
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RE: New Map
(05-16-2012 05:59 PM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote:  
(05-16-2012 05:42 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  
(05-16-2012 03:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  amazing the gap from Wash St and Boise to Minnesota.

that's probably one of the least populated areas in the nation; no wonder that there aren't any FBS schools there

It's still amazing that even with all the bball schools that there is still none in that area. That's a giant chunk of emptiness lol.

maybe one of the Dakota teams can make the jump

Montana is pretty much dead in the water due to some recent scandals involving their football program

don't know that much about Montana State but doubt they could make the jump
05-16-2012 08:34 PM
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RE: New Map
Looking at the map you can see why WAC had problems reloading with f/b member schools. If they survive it will not be as a f/b conference.
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(05-16-2012 09:47 PM)RUfan03 Wrote:  Looking at the map you can see why WAC had problems reloading with f/b member schools. If they survive it will not be as a f/b conference.

but some of the most successful FCS schools are located in that area

if the WAC could have enticed them to move up, the conference would have been safe
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The WAC could have some real options if the group of Montana, MSU, UND, NDSU, USD and SDSU all decided to go to FBS together as a package
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(05-16-2012 05:42 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  
(05-16-2012 03:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  amazing the gap from Wash St and Boise to Minnesota.

that's probably one of the least populated areas in the nation; no wonder that there aren't any FBS schools there

Lotta 1 Congressman States in there, couple of 2s.. That's it.
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RE: New Map
Updated for ODU since it appears they are now official to CUSA
05-17-2012 11:54 AM
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RE: New Map
The map is a great visual and should provide insight into why 4 conferences of 16 will not be the end game in all of this. As you can see from the map, the PAC has zero interest in any of the other FBS schools in their footprint for expansion beyond 12. The only way the PAC expands is if it raids the Big12. Mathematically 4 conferences of 16 is doable and you can shuffle enough schools between the ACC, Big12 and Big East to cobble together a 4th conference after the assumption that the PAC, B1G and SEC moves to 16. To do that you will destroy 3 current "BCS" conferences to make it happen. Way too much political fallout would ensue to make it happen. The 4 by 16 hypothesis is untenable IMO.
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Maryland should be over DC, not Baltimore.
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The locations are approximate since the logos are right next to rather than right on their hometowns.
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(05-16-2012 03:32 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  10th, there seems to be a neutral zone, just east of Lubbock, that stetches from Mexico to Canada - a barren land, where no college programs can grow...

Looks like a good area for a new bowl game. The Dust Bowl.

Seriously, that picture says a lot. Why the big empty swath in the middle of the country?
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(05-17-2012 08:16 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-16-2012 03:32 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  10th, there seems to be a neutral zone, just east of Lubbock, that stetches from Mexico to Canada - a barren land, where no college programs can grow...

Looks like a good area for a new bowl game. The Dust Bowl.

Seriously, that picture says a lot. Why the big empty swath in the middle of the country?

Because maybe 10 people live in that entire region.
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RE: New Map
Again, that's the great plains.

Wheat, cotton and corn farms and cattle ranches as far as the eye can see but not a lot of people.
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(05-17-2012 08:49 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  
(05-17-2012 08:16 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-16-2012 03:32 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  10th, there seems to be a neutral zone, just east of Lubbock, that stetches from Mexico to Canada - a barren land, where no college programs can grow...

Looks like a good area for a new bowl game. The Dust Bowl.

Seriously, that picture says a lot. Why the big empty swath in the middle of the country?

Because maybe 10 people live in that entire region.

Nobody lives in Nebraska and Kansas but there's 1 in Nebraska and 2 in Kansas. Just seems like the Dakotas or Montana would have come up with at least 1 FBS team.
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RE: New Map
Great map.

1) Looking at New England, it appears insane that UConn & BC don't play each other.

2) It would be great if you could do the conferences by themselves. I don't know what we'd do with them, but it would be really cool (especially if we could add BYU, Air Force, and Fresno to the Big East).

3) It appears Texas leads the way with 12 schools. At this rate, Sam Houston and Stephen F. Austin will be 1-A pretty soon.
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This map shows why many ECU fans are not happy about the new CUSA. It puts NC with tightest density of major college football schools in the nation to have to compete with for recruiting.
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(05-17-2012 09:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  This map shows why many ECU fans are not happy about the new CUSA. It puts NC with tightest density of major college football schools in the nation to have to compete with for recruiting.

Guess you didn't look at Ohio (8), Lower Michigan (5) and East Texas (10). I'd say 5 in Alabama trumps 6 in NC for density as well.
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(05-17-2012 08:55 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-17-2012 08:49 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  
(05-17-2012 08:16 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-16-2012 03:32 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  10th, there seems to be a neutral zone, just east of Lubbock, that stetches from Mexico to Canada - a barren land, where no college programs can grow...

Looks like a good area for a new bowl game. The Dust Bowl.

Seriously, that picture says a lot. Why the big empty swath in the middle of the country?

Because maybe 10 people live in that entire region.

Nobody lives in Nebraska and Kansas but there's 1 in Nebraska and 2 in Kansas. Just seems like the Dakotas or Montana would have come up with at least 1 FBS team.

It makes sense though if you think about history. When college football was really growing and becoming popular schools joining the bigger leagues tended towards higher populations or the largest schools. Those states had neither really at the time. Places like Kansas are small but they had a significant time advantage for their schools.
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RE: New Map
Per UConn-SMU's request, I've also included maps by individual conference...no WAC until we know whats happening with it and it's teams
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