(05-11-2012 07:41 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:29 PM)liberty1959 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:07 PM)EagleProf Wrote:  http://www.wbtv.com/story/18311254/nc-go...after-vote

GREENVILLE, NC (AP) - North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue says passage of a constitutional amendment defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman makes the state "look like Mississippi."

A bit uncalled for, don't ye think?

I am glad that liberal governor is leaving office she is worthless.Because of the democrats North Carolina is the highest taxed state in the southeast.

Have you visited any of the southeast's lower tax areas? I suspect that they do not compare favorably with NC.

this is exactly right.... were taxed higher because we have higher paying tech, industry, and medical jobs......... its an academic state and the transplants have brought down their money

(05-11-2012 07:45 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:41 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:29 PM)liberty1959 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:07 PM)EagleProf Wrote:  http://www.wbtv.com/story/18311254/nc-go...after-vote

GREENVILLE, NC (AP) - North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue says passage of a constitutional amendment defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman makes the state "look like Mississippi."

A bit uncalled for, don't ye think?

I am glad that liberal governor is leaving office she is worthless.Because of the democrats North Carolina is the highest taxed state in the southeast.

Have you visited any of the southeast's lower tax areas? I suspect that they do not compare favorably with NC.

this is exactly right.... were taxed higher because we have higher paying tech, industry, and medical jobs......... its an academic state and the transplants have brought down their money

People forget that we have the tech capital of the southeast and the second largest financial center in the nation. That's some serious cash.

(05-11-2012 07:53 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:45 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:41 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:29 PM)liberty1959 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:07 PM)EagleProf Wrote:  http://www.wbtv.com/story/18311254/nc-go...after-vote

GREENVILLE, NC (AP) - North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue says passage of a constitutional amendment defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman makes the state "look like Mississippi."

A bit uncalled for, don't ye think?

I am glad that liberal governor is leaving office she is worthless.Because of the democrats North Carolina is the highest taxed state in the southeast.

Have you visited any of the southeast's lower tax areas? I suspect that they do not compare favorably with NC.

this is exactly right.... were taxed higher because we have higher paying tech, industry, and medical jobs......... its an academic state and the transplants have brought down their money

People forget that we have the tech capital of the southeast and the second largest financial center in the nation. That's some serious cash.

Two of my least favorite parts of NC

(05-11-2012 07:27 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  I have a business assoicate who went to San Fran so he could marry his partner but the marriage is not recognized in North Carolina...that's according to someone who has gone through the process. They wanted to be legally married somewhere but knew it meant absolutely nothing in NC. Can't help you with our gov....thankfully our state was in pretty good shape before she toke office because it is a mess now...bless whoever has to clean it up.

I don't think any law that attempts to invalidate another state's marriage in any way can be constitutional, though, and I think that if the issue ever comes a head, the judiciary will agree. Conservatives are always complaining about 'activist judges,' and there is a reason for that. Federal judges just don't seem to sympathize with the political right wing, e.g. Roe v. Wade. I seriously doubt they'll sympathize with the knuckledragging homophobes under discussion here.

Everyone should try gay sex at least 8-10 times just to see what it's like, BTW.

She's a Democrap and I'm in the Military, so guess that answers your question. By the way.............I'm married.............to a woman.

(05-11-2012 07:59 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:53 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:45 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:41 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:29 PM)liberty1959 Wrote:  I am glad that liberal governor is leaving office she is worthless.Because of the democrats North Carolina is the highest taxed state in the southeast.

Have you visited any of the southeast's lower tax areas? I suspect that they do not compare favorably with NC.

this is exactly right.... were taxed higher because we have higher paying tech, industry, and medical jobs......... its an academic state and the transplants have brought down their money

People forget that we have the tech capital of the southeast and the second largest financial center in the nation. That's some serious cash.

Two of my least favorite parts of NC

IMO, they are the only parts with something to do.

OT: This is the same governor who quipped several months ago that "elections need to be suspended because our government has so much work still needed to be done".

'nuff said.

But yeah, this should be moved to the Spin Room

(05-11-2012 04:07 PM)EagleProf Wrote:  http://www.wbtv.com/story/18311254/nc-go...after-vote

GREENVILLE, NC (AP) - North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue says passage of a constitutional amendment defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman makes the state "look like Mississippi."

A bit uncalled for, don't ye think?

She's not wrong.

Our state's policymakers are the most backwoods, ignorant, corrupt pieces of **** in the world.

Last I heard she was planning on retiring, joining the swim team and starting a carrot garden

Knuckledragging homophones huh? I guess procreation is soo last season.

She isn't our governor we are East Carolina not North Carolina.

By the way to me for the Governor of NC to put down what THE PEOPLE of her state voted for is a really bad move.

(05-11-2012 07:07 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:34 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Well outside of the Mississippi comment, she was telling the truth. North Carolina has always aligned more with a progressive-northern'ish view on these issues as oppose to those of the rest of the South. I teach a class on North Carolina History at a local college and we had a debate on this today.

That's true. The state didn't even want to be a part of the confederacy.

Nor did Tennessee.

Yeah, well you joined. You had the same disputes every Southern state did--between rich plantation owners and yeoman farmers. Opposition in Southern states to secession was almost always socioeconomic and more of a "We don't want to die for rich people" argument than a moral/progressive stance. NC just dragged out the debate a little longer. In states like Mississippi, the poor farmers had zero clout and hell, most couldn't even vote.

Not sure how this debate is relevant. West Virginia actually had the balls to leave Virginia and form their own state. We all know that WV is, of course, the beacon of progress and culture.

(05-11-2012 08:44 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  She isn't our governor we are East Carolina not North Carolina.

That's what the Stanford University marching band said. And they're smart.

(05-11-2012 05:56 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:34 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Well outside of the Mississippi comment, she was telling the truth. North Carolina has always aligned more with a progressive-northern'ish view on these issues as oppose to those of the rest of the South. I teach a class on North Carolina History at a local college and we had a debate on this today.

Disagree.....The 61%-39% shows how your view of widespread liberalism in NC is wrong.

PS. Its ok to be a closet liberal and state as such...no need to pretend by trying to cover it up with "progressive-northern'ish view"

This vote came in basically a republican primary. If this was in November, it would've been different.

(05-11-2012 06:39 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:32 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:   I'm pretty disgusted at the state of NC for voting yes on this. One of the least proud moments in North Carolina history.

I'm guessing you don't know much about NC history...which predates the original 13 Colonies.

Country and States are broke....record high UNDERemployment....and out of all historic things...this bothers you the most?

All they did was listen to President Clinton...who signed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996.

We have a messed up economy, and the Repubs, who come in power for the first time in 100 years, decide THIS is important enough to spend time and money for. Talk about having a disconnect. It is sad and disgusting.

(05-11-2012 07:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:42 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:39 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 06:32 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:   I'm pretty disgusted at the state of NC for voting yes on this. One of the least proud moments in North Carolina history.

I'm guessing you don't know much about NC history...which predates the original 13 Colonies.

Country and States are broke....record high UNDERemployment....and out of all historic things...this bothers you the most?

All they did was listen to President Clinton...who signed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996.

I know plenty about NC history, and that doesn't change the fact that I am ashamed to be a North Carolinian after that vote. I don't expect anyone to agree with me here but this issue fundamentally disgusts me. I'm conservative on plenty of things, but not this issue.

LOL. Yeah, we're so backwards. I guess you're ashamed of the majority of the United States. This is a state issue, NOT a human rights issue. Nowhere in the constitution does it address marriage. States have decided to address this issue because THE PEOPLE want the states to address it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_ma...#State_law

Really? This isn't a human rights issue? I beg to differ. I assume race wasn't a humans rights issue either. And the Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment, is in the Constitution.

(05-11-2012 07:23 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 05:10 PM)GoGold Wrote:  Its really not the State's place to say who can and who cannot get married.

I agree, and those amendments are such a waste of time. Gay people already can marry each other in many states. NC and MS have to respect those marriages.

+1. It is sad we are wasting time and making government bigger. Nothing says hypocrite like "believing" in small government, while supporting an amendment like this.


And for the record, this amendment did more to HURT heterosexual relationships, than homosexual ones. Gays couldn't marry before the amendment, nor could they afterward. But heterosexuals lost A LOT of rights.

Way to go.

(05-11-2012 08:38 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Knuckledragging homophones huh? I guess procreation is soo last season.

I personally attach a lot of importance to heterosexual marriage. I just don't think what NC is doing supports it in any way. It's not like people would have turned gay if that amendment had failed.

(05-11-2012 08:47 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:07 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:34 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Well outside of the Mississippi comment, she was telling the truth. North Carolina has always aligned more with a progressive-northern'ish view on these issues as oppose to those of the rest of the South. I teach a class on North Carolina History at a local college and we had a debate on this today.

That's true. The state didn't even want to be a part of the confederacy.

Nor did Tennessee.

Yeah, well you joined. You had the same disputes every Southern state did--between rich plantation owners and yeoman farmers. In states like Mississippi, the poor farmers had zero clout and hell, most couldn't even vote. It just got dragged out a little longer in NC.

Not sure how this debate is relevant. West Virginia actually had the balls to leave Virginia and form their own state. We all know that WV is, of course, the beacon of progress and culture.

No, the debate is Mississippi vs. North Carolina in culture and social/civil rights issues. This debate was started by our abortion of a governor. It was asked to be defended. I wanted to point out that she was right in her claim that NC has been the most progressive and socially liberal of the southern states. This point's historical roots are seeded in the secession from the Union. I was hoodwinked by this Tennessee claim and therefore the topic strayed off course. My conclusion remains: one of the worst governors in American history made an off color distasteful remark that held a lot of truth but was presented in a way that makes our disdain grow. Not only did she insult the North Carolinian people; she insulted the Mississippians as well. For that, I am sorry.

(05-11-2012 08:53 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 08:47 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 07:07 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 04:34 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Well outside of the Mississippi comment, she was telling the truth. North Carolina has always aligned more with a progressive-northern'ish view on these issues as oppose to those of the rest of the South. I teach a class on North Carolina History at a local college and we had a debate on this today.

That's true. The state didn't even want to be a part of the confederacy.

Nor did Tennessee.

Yeah, well you joined. You had the same disputes every Southern state did--between rich plantation owners and yeoman farmers. In states like Mississippi, the poor farmers had zero clout and hell, most couldn't even vote. It just got dragged out a little longer in NC.

Not sure how this debate is relevant. West Virginia actually had the balls to leave Virginia and form their own state. We all know that WV is, of course, the beacon of progress and culture.

No, the debate is Mississippi vs. North Carolina in culture and social/civil rights issues. This debate was started by our abortion of a governor. It was asked to be defended. I wanted to point out that she was right in her claim that NC has been the most progressive and socially liberal of the southern states. This point's historical roots are seeded in the secession from the Union. I was hoodwinked by this Tennessee claim and therefore the topic strayed off course. My conclusion remains: one of the worst governors in American history made an off color distasteful remark that held a lot of truth but was presented in a way that makes our disdain grow. Not only did she insult the North Carolinian people; she insulted the Mississippians as well. For that, I am sorry.

I agree you're one of the most progressive Southern states (not that that is saying much); but I was saying in my post, the fact that you were the last to secede has nothing to do with that. You didn't delay secession because of moral/civil rights issues. You delayed secession because of socioeconomic quarrels between poor and rich that every Southern state had. Trying to characterize yourself as being THAT much better in terms of civil rights history is a bit of a stretch.

By the way, I'm from Mississippi. I have no problem whatsoever with what she said.

(05-11-2012 08:51 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(05-11-2012 08:38 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Knuckledragging homophones huh? I guess procreation is soo last season.

I personally attach a lot of importance to heterosexual marriage. I just don't think what NC is doing supports it in any way. It's not like people would have turned gay if that amendment had failed.

That's cool. While I don't support gay marriage, I respect your opinion. I kinda took umbrage at the knuckledragging homophobe. If I or anyone else had made an anti gay slur along those lines it would be banned city. That's all.